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Apple Says Samsung 3G Patents Violate RAND Requirements 282

judgecorp writes "The patent dispute between Samsung and Apple has finally boiled down to clear understandable terms. Samsung says Apple has not been paying it royalties for use of patented 3G technology. Apple says Samsung smuggled that technology into the 3G standards, disclosing its IP demands later. The Dutch court will rule on 14 October." The issue at hand now seems to be whether Apple already has a license to the patents under the 3G "Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory" requirements for patented technology used in the standard. If Samsung really believes Apple needs a separate license, when can we expect them to sue everyone else?
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Apple Says Samsung 3G Patents Violate RAND Requirements

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  • by TheLink ( 130905 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2011 @02:45PM (#37529686) Journal
    What if Samsung only sues those who sue them? Would that meet the 3G "Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory" requirements?
  • Re:Samsung == Rambus (Score:3, Interesting)

    by hedwards ( 940851 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2011 @02:49PM (#37529720)

    It's not the same, it's different.

    Just because you own IP that's in a standard doesn't necessarily mean that you should have to give up your rights to use it defensively. In this case Apple brought this BS on themselves when they filed that questionable lawsuit that could best be reduced to Samsung's product having a similar shape to the one that Apple sells.

    Also, Samsung is only targeting Apple at this time and there is no reason to believe that Samsung won't stop with Apple. Rambus OTOH, went way beyond using the patents as a defensive weapon and targeted more than just one company.

  • Re:Curious (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Jeng ( 926980 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2011 @02:52PM (#37529744)

    Do you believe it would be better if Apple won?

  • Re:Curious (Score:3, Interesting)

    by scot4875 ( 542869 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2011 @03:02PM (#37529866) Homepage

    Explain exactly how Samsung using its patent portfolio as defense against Apple's frivolous "rounded rectangle" patents is strongarming more money out of Apple. Apple is the one using the courts to block sales of its competitors products. They had the option of competing with a better product (like everyone else does), instead they are choosing to compete in the courts.

    F/RAND stands for Fair, Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory. In this case, it seems pretty fair and reasonable to use an essential technology that Samsung owns to defend against Apple's bullshit.

    Of course, that makes me an Apple hater and a Samsung cheerleader, so you can disregard my opinion entirely while you go circle jerk with the "fair" group of people that thinks that look-and-feel patents aren't ridiculous.


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