Apple Camera Patent Lets External Transmitters Disable Features 268
sticks_us writes with news of an Apple patent application, recently published by the USPTO, for an on-board camera system that would include circuitry for processing external infrared signals. The data received from these signals could then be used to present information to the user of the device, or even to modify the device's operation.
"For example, an infrared emitter could be located in areas where picture or video capture is prohibited, and the emitter could generate infrared signals with encoded data that includes commands to disable the recording functions of devices. An electronic device could then receive the infrared signals, decode the data and temporarily disable the device's recording function based on the command. ... In some embodiments, a device may apply a watermark to detected images as an alternative to completely disabling a recording function."
Photos not allowed during police actions, citizen! (Score:5, Insightful)
Apple has tapped into a pretty nice market there. They'll make quite a bit just selling portable IR transmitters that cops can wear on their belts--for when our boys in blue need to enforce a little extra discouragement on handcuffed perps and don't want to deal with any pesky pinkos filming or taking pictures.
Not only that, but by holding the patent, they stand to make a fortune when the government decides to make it mandatory in all new cameras.
That Steve Jobs is nothing if not a money-making machine. I bet he'll have every college student in the U.S. lined up around the block to buy one of these "enhanced" cameras. He's like one of those Bond villians who comes up with a plan that's undeniably horrific and evil, but also damned creative and ingenious.
Meanwhile the old Bond villian, Bill Gates, is off fighting AIDS in Africa. Guess that's like when Jaws [jamesbondwiki.com] became a good guy in Moonraker.
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Yet they'd never be more than one IR cut filter away from a lawsuit.
Re:Photos not allowed during police actions, citiz (Score:4, Informative)
Don't most daylight digital cameras already have IR filters on them? That's why when you look closely at a digital camera lens, it has a dark reddish tint to it. I've tried using IR light to convert a webcam into a nighttime camera and it never goes well unless i feel like tearing the camera apart and removing the filter. (which on MOST cameras, is a severe pita)
But without that filter, the IR light overwhelms the sensor during the daytime, so it's required for daytime use. I just bought a camera that has daytime/nighttime mode, and it swings a red IR filter into place in front of the CCD for daytime operation.
Sooooo my question is, just how effective is this system going to be if there's an IR filter in place? Now I realize it doesn't completely cut out the IR - I can for example see the blinky light on my remote in my webcam, but it's brightness is greatly reduced.
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Just don't forget to put a tasteful and elegant "iCensored" logo at the bottom, in a pleasant Apple Garamond font.
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unless its all in ONE chip, any hardware guy worth his salt could open a laptop (etc) and bypass this.
now, once you start talking about making this a 'secure camera', you'll lose sales since no intelligent person will want any part of this 'you countrol MY camera' stuff.
apple fanboys will still buy but the rest of us will walk away from this, shaking our heads in disbelief.
many of us don't trust the 'software controlled' cameras to stay off; now we would have to worry about the exact opposite: we WANT a pho
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That was my first thought as well. But how are the security goons going to distinguish between e.g. the 2010 Macbook Pro which doesn't have this feature, and the externally identical 2011 MBP which does? Or the iPhone 4.1 with, and the yPhone Chinese clone without? Etc. for all devices on the market.
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hahah yeah okay, right. lets see, where do we begin. How about unintended consequences? You bet.
Or "whoops, your phone didn't receive the signal to re-enable the feature when it left", let alone other issues that would possibly make this questionable or only work on apple phones. Think that won't happen?
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This is great! (Score:2)
My Android phone will be protected from this feature because Apple has a patient on it. So only iPhones will get to use this.
This is wonderful.
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laser printer watermarking
That's the first thing I thought of when I read the summary. That's not even required by law, but just TRY to find a color printer that doesn't have this "feature."
Re:Photos not allowed during police actions, citiz (Score:5, Informative)
Here is a list of printers [eff.org] that do and do not include the watermark...
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But we aren't talking about "decent" cameras here. Most people get a new cellphone every couple years.
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Just put an IR filter in front of the lens, or a tape on the detector..
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I believe you are thinking of a UV filter.
Re:Photos not allowed during police actions, citiz (Score:4, Insightful)
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Just wait till everyone starts carrying the IR "no camera" devices, rendering ALL camera's useless all the time.
The problem with technology is that for every action there is an opposite reaction, that is often greater that the intended one. Call it a corollary to the Streisand Effect.
Imagine for a minute that someone develops low cost "camera jammer" that does what is proposed and all the asshats of the world just start carrying them all the time, everywhere. It would mean that the camera wouldn't t
Re:Photos not allowed during police actions, citiz (Score:4)
But most of those videos/photos that show bad stuff aren't done by professional photographers. They're done by average citizens holding up their smartphones. Just think of what this kind of technology would have done if the Libyan/Yemeni/Egyptian/Tunsian/Syrian/etc. governments had been able to deploy it in the streets of their cities.
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Ah, the geek "If it isn't absolutely 100% foolproof it's completely useless!!" mentality.
Governments love people like you.
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You're assuming it won't be integrated such that it's in the same sensor or behind the same lens as the optical CCD.
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This summer, only Ben Affleck can protect our craters...
JULY 2011
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Sorry, Charlie don't surf and Steve don't do charity.
Glad they patented it (Score:2)
My new patent (Score:2)
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easier solution: interfere with the IR stream. not hard. tv-b-gone (adafruit) is one such example. easy (very!) to build ir transmitters and code them any way you want. throw lots of noise in the domain. inverse square is on YOUR side, not theirs.
Electrical tape won't work here.... (Score:3, Informative)
That was my first thought, as well. But a closer look at the patent shows that they are using the camera sensor itself as the IR receiver. If you tape over it to block the IR datastream , you can't take any pictures with it anyway.
What is needed is a filter that blocks IR, but passes visible light.
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What is needed is a filter that blocks IR, but passes visible light.
Maybe that's why he said:
I guess I'll be submitting a patent for a phone case with an IR filter for the camera.
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Maybe that's why I wasn't replying to the OP, but a to poster who suggested electrical tape....
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Every consumer camera, including cell phone cameras, already has one of those.
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Ah, Apple... (Score:5, Interesting)
Might as well patent it (Score:2)
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This patent is basically the "We could use coded IR pulses and the onboard camera as a data transport, and deliver
Dear customer, Just say NO! (Score:3)
Re:Dear customer, Just say NO! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Dear customer, Just say NO! (Score:4, Insightful)
I can't wait for someone to be carrying one of these that places a watermark of a penis on all the pictures taken on the family vacation to the Grand Canyon.
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And say yes to what? (Score:2)
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Give external control over over a non-networked part of my device to a thrid party? with any intent? HELL NO. Really. If mankind buys such devices without thought... May the gods be merciful on us all.
Mankind will buy such devices without thought if that's all that's available to purchase.
WTF who is the customer here? (Score:3)
The is no reason for this dangerous feature to be included in a device that I purchase. That could get someone killed. Take some pics of some criminal activity and post it online, then the pic rats you out like a cheep stool pigeon. Then youâ(TM)re pushing up daisies.
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I love my Droid (Score:2)
/boggle (Score:2)
First Apple censors their App Store. Now they're facilitating at-source-proactive censorship of media.
What's next? A new iOS upgrade that translates any "subversive" conversations or texts into state-approved rhetoric?
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I think I know that on. (Score:2)
For example, an infrared emitter could be located in areas where picture or video capture is prohibited, and the emitter could generate infrared signals with encoded data that includes commands to disable the recording functions of devices.
I thought we agreed that DRM [on the client side] is broken by design?
Should help horror films (Score:4, Insightful)
This'll be perfect for following scared women at night, and disabling their ability to make calls/send texts/take a picture.
And sure cops will have their flashing lights stopping pictures being taken of them.
Can't think why I'd want a camera that would do this. The small ability to get meta data about something I'm taking a piccy of is far outweighed by the negative uses.
Go go masking tape.
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Go go masking tape.. until it's in the same sensor as the camera.
how is this going to work? (Score:2)
The billions of existing cameras will continue to ignore such external commands, so the only way to enforce this is to make all of those illegal. That might fly in North Korea, but in the Western world? I know dystopian views are popular here, but I just don't see this happening.
Even individual companies are going to have a hard time, e.g. a movie theatre isn't going to be able to reliably distinguish between cameras with and without this feature, so they'll still ban all cameras.
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Sure, not all of them. But in my experience cameras become obsolete long before they stop functioning. At the higher end (SLR) you can expect at least 10 years. Hell, loads of film cameras from 4 decades back still work.
The next step (Score:2)
Is embedding the ID code of the camera in every photo taken so officials can find out who is taking which photos. If it doesn't exist already it's less than five years out.
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I think this happens already.
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You mean like printers [eff.org]?
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Yep, except digitally integrated with the photo so it can't be removed and is copied with the image itself. Easy to argue for (the think of the children and copywright defense arguments pop right to mind but almost any prosecutor would love to have an unimpeachable connection between every copy of a given photo and the camera that took it), easy to do, and not expensive. Also pretty invasive.
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Old fashioned 35mm camera and film.
Paris Hilton (Score:2)
Put the transmitter on a garter and Paris Hilton and her friends would then be free to exit vehicles w/o giving the paparazzi another bonus shot.
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Only problem with that is that the paparazzi will have high-end cameras where that "feature" either doesn't exists or can be disabled.
Joe Consumer isn't going to know how to do that on his iPhone 6, though.
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Standard Apple: (Score:2)
Their view is that the phone/device doesn't really belong to you in any real sense.
You may have bought it, and thus own the physical form, but they only let you use the software, thus it does what they want, not what you want.
Oh, and by the way, they effectively won't let you remove their software and load your own software on it. (Updates that brick hacked devices for example.)
That attitude takes tethering to the level of a steel chain.
No workaround possible... (Score:2)
Of course, as an optical signaling mechanisim, there is absolutely no way this type of mechanisim could be by-passed or worked-around... Right?
I'm glad (Score:2)
Beyond the Evil Bit (Score:2)
This tech is beaten by a cheap IR filter. (Score:2)
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I think the issue is that a lot of spontaneous event video is shot of people who would rather not be caught doing whatever they're doing (and know it in advance) by Joe-off-the-street who would be unlikely to prepare for the event.
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Circumvention would naturally be a criminal offence. All new devices following the implementation of the law requiring the technology would be so equipped and all older devices will be routinely seized and searched for prohibited images which would prompt the owner to buy a new, compliant device.
robots.txt for the real world (Score:2)
It's a clever idea. I won't begrudge them the patent. I'm even kind of in favor of it; it's kind of a robots.txt file for the real world.
But, like robots.txt, clients (cameras) should treat it as advisory only and be free to ignore it. I certainly wouldn't buy a camera in which it couldn't be disabled. It's way too open to abuse. Not just in prohibiting photos in random public venues, but I can easily imagine advertisers jumping on this. For the price of an IR transmitter you can stuff a watermark into
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if its up to the owner of the camera to decide if the 'recommendation' is to be heeded or not, then its USELESS.
the only use of this is when the operator has no choice. you onboard for THAT?
else, what use is this to those in control if the operator has any way. who in their right mind would ENABLE such a feature if it was their choice?
there ino good side to this. NONE.
pure control freakness on the part of the state. or apple. or both.
Patents on "required features" (Score:2)
I wonder about that sort of thing.
Okay, in the civilian world, there is a kind of precedent -- we are required to buy insurance to drive our cars. (Though technically, "proof of financial responsibility" is required and that can come in the form of a very large bank account balance in many states.)
So this infrared censorship signal would be a feature that would seem to require mandatory compliance from device manufacturers to be effective or useful to government interests. So what happens when compliance
Way to focusing on products that are easy to use (Score:3)
But not all hope is lost. Based on the success of Apple, many other tech companies have learned just how important it is to develop interfaces that are easier and more enjoyable to use. No longer are we stuck with the attitude that users need to stop whining about quirky interfaces and just use the hacked-together interface which is "good enough". Hopefully these companies will pick up where Apple left off. Given the success of Android devices, I'd say that things aren't looking too bad.
New explanation for UFO photos (Score:2)
Easily Circumvented (Score:2)
with a piece of my patented tape!
Good luck (Score:2)
This won't work unless legislation is passed mandating all cameras be equipped with this technology. I don't see this happening. Perhaps it may have some application to generate a copyright warning in the event some professional photographer is about to snap some rights restricted material. But the market for that is so slim I don't see it being implemented.
Now what would work is to extend this technology to tag objects with meta data. Snap a photo of an interesting building for example and it gets tagged
Hey, it's what the customer wants. (Score:2)
Right?
Easy solution (Score:2)
3rd party infrared filter. Presto.
Time to buy a IR lens filter (Score:2)
Just put an infrared lens filter in front of the camera. I'm sure Jobs will bribe his way into a patent on those to or pay some politician to make them illegal.
come and see the violence inherent in the system! (Score:2)
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Really easy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_cut-off_filter [wikipedia.org]
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Sensor is embedded in the CCD device, so that's actually a piece of tape over the camera lens.
It works.. for a given value of 'works'.
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The sensor will be built into the camera CCD.
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My knee jerk reaction as well.... then I read the article (IR sensor is integrated in the camera CCD. Taping the sensor means taping the camera which (more) effectively does the same thing as the proposed technology.)
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WiFi and Bluetooth can be completely disabled (in the interest of extending battery life). Their patent describes an IR system integrated into the camera that CANNOT be completely disabled by the user. You will have the ability to turn off the "useful" stuff like the ability to read exhibit data in a museum or whatever, but the remote camera disabling feature will not be subject to end-user control.
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I've been saying for years that we should have something like this, but not for cameras. For ringers.
I want the ability to put "Quiet Zone" beacons in every theater, conference room, and house of worship. When in the presence of an active Quiet Zone beacon (which could be configured to turn on or off depending on time of day, based on whether the house lights in the theater are on or off, etc.), the phone would automatically switch to vibrate, regardless of the user's settings.
Of course, my version of the
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So the people will trust the device to follow the IR "recommendation"? Ha. If you are trying to take pictures at a classified site you'd simply disable/bypass the IR detecting circuit.
No, this is much more likely to be used so that people can't "steal" pictures of bands in concerts and such.
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The IR receiver is the camera (it gets the IR signal from the CCD itself). So if it's not receiving enough data you'd be shooting in the dark anyway.
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This doesn't actually stop the camera from working, it just "asks" it nicely to disable itself. Someone interested in taking pictures at a top secret location will just open the device and replace the detection chip, or even the whole CCD for on that doesn't respect the IR "request".
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Excuse my lack of knowledge concerning IR transmission and filtering but couldn't a movie theater just light up the screen with an infrared light shining the words BOOTLEG or PIRATE or a checkerboard pattern or something to that effect? Would it be effective?