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Apple's App Store Accepts 'Gay Cure' App 794

parallel_prankster writes "Apple is under fire for approving a controversial app created by a religious organization — Exodus International. The app seeks to help gay individuals become heterosexual. It received a '4' rating from Apple, which indicates the company considered the app to contain 'no objectionable material.' The new smartphone app was released last week and is now available through iTunes. Exodus International claims to be 'the world's largest ministry to individuals and families impacted by homosexuality.' A petition has been launched by Truth Wins Out, which describes itself as a non-profit organisation that fights anti-gay religious extremism on the change.org website, asking Steve Jobs to intervene to remove the app."
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Apple's App Store Accepts 'Gay Cure' App

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 19, 2011 @06:52PM (#35545006)

    So would a god bashing app be allowed?

  • by Spykk ( 823586 ) on Saturday March 19, 2011 @07:06PM (#35545152)
    It took awhile, but Apple is finally going to have to face the consequences for putting themselves in a position to choose what is and is not allowed to run on their devices. Next up expect a lawsuit because someone used an app that Apple approved for copyright infringement and then the snowball will really start to move.
  • Re:Free speech (Score:5, Interesting)

    by tverbeek ( 457094 ) on Saturday March 19, 2011 @07:08PM (#35545164) Homepage

    I am gay, I consider Exodus International's activities deceptively cruel to the point of fraud, and I find the app itself offensive.

    And I hope that Apple allows the app to remain in the App Store.

    No one has a right to not be offended. If the principle of free speech means anything it means that offensive speech is also allowed and protected, or it's a hollow and hypocritical principle. Even so-called "hate speech" is still just "speech" that expresses a feeling of "hate". It should be allowed.

    Just categorize the app accurately: put it with the fart apps.

  • by Gaygirlie ( 1657131 ) <gaygirlie&hotmail,com> on Saturday March 19, 2011 @07:10PM (#35545194) Homepage

    If the on-iDevice microphone hears you mention Justin Bieber's ass it shows you a pair of tits?

    Showing tits to a homosexual man would not get any reaction, or maybe disgust. Ie. it wouldn't work.

    As an aside, I don't understand anyways how one could "cure" homosexuality. It's like saying you can cure someone from listening to metal, or from liking steaks. Atleast I know I can somehow just suddenly decide and stop being interested in other girls, no matter how hard I'd try. It's a fact, and at the age of 28 I do quite think I know myself well enough to know that it's not just something anyone can change.

    And doesn't the bible anyways tell one must not lie? Isn't it also a form of lying to know that you're homosexual deep inside but try to pose as a heterosexual person, both to yourself and possible partners and outside society? Ergo, wouldn't it be against the bible, too? It's something that has always bothered me. Then again, bible has lots of things that get contradicted by the very same book they're in..

  • by realityimpaired ( 1668397 ) on Saturday March 19, 2011 @07:26PM (#35545350)

    the Bible also has nothing against lesbians, only gay males... actually, some of the ways of reading the book of Ruth, she can be interpreted as a lesbian.... :) Personally... I made an arrangement with the Bible decades ago: I don't bother it, and it doesn't bother me. My girlfriend has different issues with it, but that's because her father is a pastor. (personally, I think that the xian God is petty, vindictive, and cliquish, and certainly not the kind of deity I'd want to break bread with)

    More on topic... the lying/bible thing... have you ever seen the movie For The Bible Tells Me So? They address the issue of these so-called "straight camps" in a pretty blunt way: it puts a kind of social negative pressure on people who are gay, discouraging them from accepting themselves, and teaching them to be ashamed of their natural feelings. That lack of self-acceptance is one of the leading causes of suicide within the LGBT community, at least in my experience. I have to ask how many gay boys and girls killed themselves without ever coming out, because they were afraid of being accepted... I have a girlfriend who's in the middle of exactly that debate with herself right now, because her parents are vehemently religious, and she's trans. I'm really worried for how it's going to turn out for her, and I sincerely hope she can get the hell out of her parents' house and into a safe place soon.

    (and I tried to be straight. once. when I was 14. I got sick. literally. threw up. and didn't date anybody again until university... and yet still when I told my mom I was queer, she replied "no you're not"... I was lucky, though.... both my parents have happily accepted me once they saw the difference that not lying about myself made to my general sense of well-being and happiness).

  • by tomhudson ( 43916 ) <barbara.hudson@b ... u d s o n . c om> on Saturday March 19, 2011 @07:50PM (#35545568) Journal

    In a completely unrelated point, I find homosexuality disgusting for various reasons; plus, I'm a Catholic and have religious beliefs about sexuality. That has nothing to do with my opinion of the application though (I don't plan on downloading it),

    1. It doesn't sound like a "completely unrelated point" to me ...
    2. You come across as a "the gentleman doth protest too much" type. Repressing?

    As for your prior claim:

    Because homosexuality is nothing more than a preference, a preference that some people clearly don't like

    Do you have any proof that sexuality of any sort is a "preference"? Did you wake up one day and decide that you were going to be a straight sexually-repressed Catholic? Or did you become straight because Jesus, the Bible, or someone else told you it was the "right thing to do and you should put away those shameful lusts?

    Or did you instead just realize that you instinctively preferred partners of the opposite sex? Same as gays and lesbians realize it despite all the social pressure to deny it?

    IF the people who approve of homosexuality don't like the app, just don't download it! It's that simple!

    ... so please don't respond criticizing my beliefs and preferences.

    If you don't want people criticizing your bigoty, JUST DON'T POST! It's that simple!

    But since you put it out there, let's see some proof of your claim that heterosexuality, homosexuality, lesbianism, transsexuality, etc., are "nothing more than a preference."

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 19, 2011 @09:10PM (#35546340)

    digestive tract? well, sorry to break it to you, but oral sex is now probably more acceptable than vaginal intercourse among heteros...

    score +1 for the liberal conspiracy!

  • by mallyn ( 136041 ) on Saturday March 19, 2011 @09:21PM (#35546440) Homepage
    Lets have an app to build your own bible.

    The bible we have now is the result of an app developed by a startup in Rome in about 300 AD.

    That startup got venture funding from Emperor Constantine's capital funds firm

    Constantine funding of the Bible app was a strategic investment. It was not for profit, but for consolidation of power.

    You see, religion at this time was like a bunch of little computers that were not interconnected. They each had their own autonimous power and rule.

    Constantine knew that if he created a single mainframe religion, he can exert power over the people because their bunch of little computers would no longer be relevant.

    Of course, slashdot was not invented at that time, therefore there was no story

    Now, with our internet and bunch of interconnected little computers, the mainframe is no longer relevant. It's pieces are now found on Ebay and many ham radio flea markets.

    Luv and Peace

  • by kenj0418 ( 230916 ) on Saturday March 19, 2011 @11:46PM (#35547370)

    Right. Because what the world needs more than anything else is more reproducing people, right?

    The post you are replying to appears to have been attempting to say that that homosexuality is not natural because there is no evolutionary advantage to a lifestyle that precludes procreating. I'm no biologist, but I can certainly see an advantage to the larger community in behavior that reduces the birth rate when population density is high. Also, maybe having a gay aunt or uncle increased the reproductive chances of the nieces or nephews. Just because the GP couldn't think of an evolutionary benefit, doesn't mean there isn't/wasn't one.

    Besides, who cares if its 'natural' or not. You know what else isn't natural: computers, refrigeration, espresso, etc. Lets not use 'its unnatural' as a criteria for whether something is acceptable or not.

  • Re:Amazing. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hairyfeet ( 841228 ) <bassbeast1968 AT gmail DOT com> on Sunday March 20, 2011 @01:57AM (#35548014) Journal

    Exactly, and if you have ever been around someone who was gay you would know its not a "choice" or else people wouldn't choose it to escape horseshit like this from bigots like in TFA. It would be like saying some would "choose" to be born Jewish in pre WWII Europe, or "choose" to be born black in 1920s America. What horseshit and I've seen with my own two eyes it is horseshit.

    My youngest nephew (whom with his brother I consider my sons, as my sister developed a terminal illness after the second and wasn't able to raise them so I stepped up) is gay and frankly it was obvious almost from the time he could walk. His mannerisms, his voice, hell everything about him screamed "gay!" and he and his brother (which is as straight as straight can be) were raised side by side with NO differences in rearing. Nobody in my family said anything because we believe who you choose to love is YOUR business and it is OUR job to give the child a loving home, NOT to beat any one way of living into them.

    Well sure enough at 14 he said he "had a big announcement" and called a family meeting where he said "I'm gay" and I nearly died laughing at the reaction,as everyone was like "aaaand?" Even my 94 year old grandmom was like "Son, that news isn't exactly shocking, heck I'm nearly blind and even I could see that!". I'll always remember the way my friend Dale, who is ex USAF and can bench press some serious weight, put it when some punk overheard me talking about the youngest (and apparently didn't know Dale's little sister is a lesbian and likewise they knew almost since birth) when the punk said "I'd beat that boy straight!" Dale said 'Really, so if me and my buddy here take you out back and beat the living shit out of you for a couple of hours we can just turn you gay? I bet after we knocked them teeth out you'd be a good little cocksucker".

    And that is why TFA is total horseshit, it would be like someone expecting they could change me to where I'd look at some hairy guy the way I look at my little Cherokee princess sleeping in the bed down the hall. It ain't gonna happen, not in a million years and for all the tea in China. I'm just glad I found a wonderful woman with a wonderful old country family that only care about how you treat people and not who you love, because after my sis passed away they really went above and beyond to make my boys feel like family.

    Of course I'll never forget what my princess said after I took them to meet the boys and told her afterward the youngest was gay to see what her reaction would be and whether we had a future (because if it came down to a girl or the boys the girl would have to go, I don't abandon family) and she said "Hon, my glasses aren't THAT thick, and it doesn't change the fact he is a sweetie and my daughter (who loves having someone who has taste and loves shopping like she does) just adores him, does it?"

    Instead of trying to make everyone fit into your myopic world view, why not just treat them like people? And if it is family then you should damned well treat them like family and love and stick up for them instead of being a horse's ass like the group from TFA. If your God is so petty and spiteful that they would condemn a decent person to some eternal suffering because of who they love and nothing else? Well that isn't a God I want anything to do with, just keep him to yourself, thanks.

A committee takes root and grows, it flowers, wilts and dies, scattering the seed from which other committees will bloom. -- Parkinson