Skype For iPhone Now Makes Video Calls 102
tekgoblin writes "Today Skype has released an update that allows iPhone users to make video calls from their device. There had been rumors that this update was in the works and now they have been made fact. So, was the Skype outage the other day part of this internal update? Possibly. But Skype has proven to be one of the most important communication tools in the world and now has gotten even better."
Oh dear editors (Score:5, Insightful)
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The bigger question is, how long until video calling comes to Skype on Android? There are many more Android devices out there with forward facing cameras, so video Skype for Android would be a big bump for Skype. They dragged their heels heavily bringing Skype to the Samsung Galaxy S, which is the best Android device and highest selling one to date, which to me indicates that they don't know which side their bread is buttered on.
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Before they get video chats to Skype on Android, it would be nice if they made it work on 3G (rather than WiFi) at all in U.S. As it is it's artificially limited due to their exclusive agreement with Verizon.
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That's got nothing to do with Skype. Here in Australia I make Skype calls via 3G all the time.
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It has everything to do with Skype because they signed an agreement with Verizon. Yes, I know it's not worldwide. It's still annoying as hell. I used the ability all the time in Canada, and it was very convenient.
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There are other solutions for two way video calling already on Android. Personally, I don't find staring up someone's nostrils all that appealing tho....
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The bigger question is, how long until video calling comes to Skype on Android? There are many more Android devices out there with forward facing cameras, so video Skype for Android would be a big bump for Skype. They dragged their heels heavily bringing Skype to the Samsung Galaxy S, which is the best Android device and highest selling one to date, which to me indicates that they don't know which side their bread is buttered on.
iOS is still the dominant app phone platform. It's absolutely no surprise that this feature is enabled for iOS before being rolled out for Android.
I don't understand your last sentence. Is/was Skype for Android available, but for only some handsets? If we are to break it down to individual devices, then iOS is even more the obvious choice for primary development.
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Because any time an app appears on iOS that is compelling, someone on Slashdot is required to ask that question. Today's winner was morgan_greywolf.
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There are other apps on the store that do video calling. If they were going to get pulled, they would have before now.
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No. Fucking. Way.
Can someone please verify if this is the case?!
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It's pretty old news by now, but this [google.com] should provide you enough links.
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Dude.
Totally true.
Really.
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This is really old news, surprised you didn't know. Here [engadget.com] is one source. What more, for a long time you could only install Skype on Android if you were using Verizon - it wouldn't show up in the market for any other operator. When they finally made a "public" version, it is WiFi-only in US.
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But there is lots of competition for video calling on Android.
A partial list:
http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=video+calling [appbrain.com]
Lets face it, most people only want to video call ONE OTHER PERSON, their girlfriend/boyfriend, and nobody else. So its not too hard for two people to find a service that works for both.
What is hard is finding a girl that uses Android.
Heretofore, android usage has been something like 95% male. That is only slowly starting to change, now only about 75% male. [engadget.com]
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Skype is not just for video calling, though. VoIP is far more heavily used - and "no 3G" restriction applies to that on Android as well.
what? (Score:4, Insightful)
" But Skype has proven to be one of the most important communication tools in the world"
seriously? one of the most important? no, it's not.
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Seriously it is.
Lots of people use it. So ..
But what I wonder is:
WHERE THE FUCK IS VIDEO OVER JABBER?!
And implemented everywhere.
And/or together with SIP.
End eventually with similar functionality as Skypes when it comes to passing firewalls or what not + encryption (I know there exist encryption for it, and yeah, "somewhat" video to. But it doesn't help if it doesn't work =P)
Oh, and voice over jabber to of course, unless there are SIP as well. I don't care _what_ is used as long as it work and the standard
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Hell, they can't do audio over bluetooth yet on the iPhone. So when I'm listening to music wirelessly, Skype will ring in my headset, then I have to dig the phone out of my pocket and talk directly into the phone.
And, bizarrely, when initiating a video call, you have the option to turn off 'speakerphone' mode, so you can show the person a closeup of your head while you talk to them. Alternately, you can show them what your ear is looking at.
Actually it is (Score:3, Interesting)
Go talk to normal people.
You'll find that many of them use Skype now. Certainly any friend I have (that's every single one) who has family or friends overseas uses Skype.
You don't think reducing the cost of international communication to zero is important? I would say that mainstreaming VOIP is very important indeed.
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I can only guess how many grandmother's have been setup with Skype by family members so they can keep in touch. I bet it's huge.
Android version soon? (Score:2)
Does this mean that there will be an Android version supporting video soon? While I would rather have an open system than Skype, at least having something cross-platform will be nice.
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No, HTC is Taiwanese. And before you go attacking Taiwanese companies, you should probably realize that if you have a smartphone or a computer of any kind, it's probably a Taiwanese-produced product or contains a lot of Taiwanese components. That's true even for most of Apple's products.
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No, HTC is Taiwanese.
Same difference. Taiwan is officially the "Republic of China" and is 98% Han Chinese by ethinicity and they identify with their mainland roots more than as some sort of distinct ethnic group. Besides, Taiwan is just a name foisted on the country by the Dutch.
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I can't wait... (Score:5, Funny)
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Quality of front camera? (Score:3)
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The poor quality of the N900's front camera was partly a software problem, it's been improved somewhat in PR1.3.
Oddly enough though it seems that the change was only made to the phone's default communications apps, other applications that use the camera still get a noisy image.
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It sounds more like it's a sensor/noise problem that can (as always) be somewhat improved in software by (time or space) averaging to get rid of the noise.
i.e. while there's a software fix, it wasn't a software problem.
Maybe the folks who wrote the communications app didn't want to wait for a fix (workaround) to be made in the driver, so just put it in the app themselves.
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Just me? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Is it just me, or does anyone else have zero interest in video chatting by holding a phone out two feet in front of my face?
Well it's not just you. there's lots of people whose faces we wouldn't want to see on a video chat.
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It's just you. The Knocking app on our phones has brought loads and loads of joy to my parents, as they're able to watch their 11 month old granddaughter play with her Christmas presents from 1500 miles away... Having the option for two-way communication with it would only be better.
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Another one who actually uses it. My parents, who are old and infirm, live far away, and I have had to travel quite a bit, making communications difficult....with this, we can communicate far more often and with far more gestures than previously available. Ekiga is nice but they're not technical, and they don't have iPhone 4 devices with which to use FaceTime.
It's a start. Eventually, open standards, better tech, etc, will come - but the perfect is the enemy of the good enough, and for now this is good e
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I downloaded it and began using it this morning. While I don't have to hold the phone an uncomfortable distance from my face in order to use the video chat feature, all I get is a talking head at the normal arm length. However, because previously we only had one computer with a video camera to do video chat and it was stationary and only available at home it was a bit of a pain in the ass to do BabyGrandparent chats due to scheduling conflicts. Thankfully now those scheduling conflicts are reduced and Grand
Re:Just me? (Score:5, Funny)
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Yes, 11 month olds are so good at doing that "sit down in front of a web cam or something" thing you are talking about...
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B...b..b..but that's not in real-time!
I totally agree, cell phone video calling is way overrated. My previous phone (which I acquired in mid 2007) supported video calls, but the carrier network didn't allow it to work. I only wanted to use it just for the novelty factor, and didn't "wish it worked" any other time in the following year and a half I used that phone.
I barely even record videos with my phone, and when I do it is even less often that they get sent to someone right away via MMS (much less havin
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Don't move the goal posts. We're talking about video chatting, not recording video. If I wanted to record video, obviously I would use a video camera. (Except my phone's quality isn't much worse, and posts to Youtube significantly more easily...)
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Then why not get a video camera to record the precious memories and then e-mail the files to whoever? Better quality footage and easier to use.
Easier to use?? You don't have my video camera. Unless the people on the other end want multi-gig files in a proprietary format, the phone-to-phone solution would be VASTLY easier.
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A further example... (Score:3)
You know, I just remembered an even better example. My Grandfather was in a hospital about three hours away from his home recovering from a brain injury a few months ago. My parents were there visiting him, and were telling him that his great-granddaughter had started walking. He became sad that he had missed such a milestone, being 1500 miles away and in a coma at the time. My Mom just pulled out her iPhone, called me up, and within minutes he was able to watch her walking and talk to her in real-time. You
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Because clearly if you don't know anyone who has ever done it clearly means that no one else in the world would want to do it.
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You have to admit that the capability is still impressive.
Consider: something that just a few short years ago was only possible with a news van and a satellite dish is now in the hands of millions. (okay, maybe Skype installations on iPhones is 2,000,000, but it's gotta be pretty close, right?)
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You've never wished you could have someone you're helping just show you their computer screen instead of trying to incorrectly describe it (or god forbid trying to walk them through setting up a remote connection)? A shot of the broken faucet they're bothering you about? It would cut a large part of the guesswork out of my random tech calls. Anyone who's a go-to technical person should see the value in the video chat cell phone form factor. Picture text messages work too, but the interactive nature of video
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I can't imagine troubleshooting over such a tiny image. This is much, much better: http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html [uvnc.com]
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Me... However, I have vast interest in video chatting by putting an iPad on my knees, and lying back into a sofa. Roll on iPads with front facing cameras!
Dear CmdrTaco, (Score:5, Insightful)
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You realize that you are posting to an audience that can't even RTFA.
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That's great, but FaceTime still relies on a central server to resolve phone names or email addresses to SIP URIs. So in practice the only thing more open about Facetime vs. Skype is that anyone can make a 3rd-party client for Facetime without needing any proprietary codecs. All calls just have to go through Apple.
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FaceTime is also built-in into all the new iPhones and iPod touches, will be in the next iPad and there's also a beta version for Mac OS X, not to mention rumors of FaceTime for Windows. Is the userbase of FaceTime already bigger than Skype?
No?
In what world is this even remotely possible?
From this source [gigaom.com] we can see that:
Skype added 39 million registered users in the fourth quarter to end the year with a total of 560 million.
36 percent of Skype-to-Skype calls as of the end of the fourth quarter included video
At peak times, 23 million users are logged into Skype (as of March 2010).
Only 47 million iPhones [macstories.net] and eight or so million iPads [google.com] were sold in 2010.
So you could make a claim that iStuff was growing faster than Skype, you would have no basis for claiming that it was already a larger userbase.
Remember, these are SKYPE USERS compared to iSTUFF OWNERS. Those owners may or may not even be aware FaceTime is on their device.
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WTF are you talking about? I'm supposed to generate for you sales figures for a device that doesn't exist??
You like how I, what, exactly?
Did you likewise miss the concurrent users number?
No need to reply, I'm sure your Cupertino paycheck won't bounce.
I tried it... (Score:3, Insightful)
I downloaded it this morning on my iPhone 4. Although it works, I am experiencing that sound and video are out of sync, low framerates, and pixelated video. Lousy job Skype. I tried it on both wifi and 3g connections with the other party being on a desktop connected via a broadband land line. I would have rather waited another 2 weeks for a more polished version that would be of the same quality as desktop-to-desktop video Skype.
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Thanks, I needed a laugh (Score:2)
No issue here whatsoever. Was amazingly clear on 3g and over wife to other party on desktop.
That automatic spelling correction is just comedy gold sometimes, isn't it?
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Updates (Score:3)
[rant] Rumour has it that Skype might also get their fingers out their backside and make a more up to date version of Skype for Linux, one that is at least nicer looking with KDE4 for example, or one that actually obeys PulseAudio, one that does video calls properly with up to date video for Linux system, or one that stops deleting old conversations even though you've told it not to. But maybe we'll have to wait another two years for such an "update", while everyone else in the known universe gets their stuff constantly updated.
Skype for Linux sucks!
Do you really want that? (Score:2)
Have you seen the newer Windows Skype clients? It's an awful piece of nagware now.
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[tongue firmly in cheek]
It's Linux and all open source right, just write your own....
Being the red headed step child of cross platform Windows software as an OS X user, I can only imagine how bad it is on Linux in these situations. Some of the ports to OS X have been laughably shocking (Flash, EvE Online, the first official MSN Messenger client, early Ventrillo releases).
Surprisingly, the OS X Skype client is ok (as is the Silverlight player - who'd have thought it?!).
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I'll give you 8/10 on the Silverlight player. It used to work pretty well, but ever since the latest update, it's all Crashy Crasherson. The only thing I ever use it for is Hulu, and if Hulu ever comes to AppleTV, I will once again live and work in a Microsoft-free ecosystem.
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You can run the Windows version of Skype 3.5 in Wine, though I'm not sure if you'd actually want to.
VOIP (Score:1)
Can it do VOIP calls for free now like the android version?
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...is there Skype on Android? Oh...
Yes, it always could - can Android? (Score:2)
I thought Skype on Android was Verizon specific...
The iPhone (and Touch and iPad) could always do Skype calls for free. The thing that changed a few months ago was that VOIP apps are now approved for use on 3G.
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Maybe it is different in the us, but at least here in europe I get skype for android that works with voip over 3g and wlan via android market.
Cell Phone DDOS (Score:2)
If I put Skype on my iPhone, what guarantee do I have that my phone won't get supernoded and superpwnded?
Will Apple Respond (Score:2)
Several people already posted hypothesizing that Apple would pull the App, but I don't think that is even in the realm of possibility. Rather, this may prompt Apple to get off their butts and release the FaceTime specs as an open standard as they previously promised. Hopefully they'll roll out some improvements first, like default encryption on all channels, but it sure would be nice to have an open competitor to Skype that can interact with iPhones.
A Few Issues but Surprisingly Decent (Score:1)
This is what FaceTime should have been and it one ups Yahoo Messengers half assed implementation because it works between with Windows, Mac, and other iOS client
Anyone else get cropped video? (Score:1)
I tried a video call to a skype client on Ubuntu, but the iOS skype app was displaying cropped video. Has anyone else tried connecting to a linux skype client with the new app?
It's new only when it concerns the iPhone (Score:2)
Fring [fring.com] has had video calling support for Symbian/Android for over a year now.
Big Deal! UK's SkypePhones had that ..for Yonks! (Score:2)
So, was this item "product placement" (ie, sponsored by Apple?)
Nokia n800 (or similar had Skype with video, per Skype.com)
I'm suprised that some post-3000 series Sony PSP didn't do it.
Any netbook will do it, too.. and for much less $$$ to Apple... :-)
PS Aussie SkypePhones (v. 1) could only do voice + messaging.
Anybody know about Sweden's?