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Want Flash Player On a MacBook Air? Download It Yourself 353

AmiMoJo writes "MacBook Airs are no longer shipping with Flash. Apple spokesperson Bill Evans said: 'We're happy to continue to support Flash on the Mac, and the best way for users to always have the most up to date and secure version is to download it directly from Adobe.'"
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Want Flash Player On a MacBook Air? Download It Yourself

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  • So? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 24, 2010 @10:48AM (#34003888)

    So what? Just like windows, Linux ...

  • What's new? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Jugalator ( 259273 ) on Sunday October 24, 2010 @10:52AM (#34003914) Journal

    Windows doesn't include it either.

    Maybe some Linux distros (?), but in that case, it would be pretty ironic.

  • Re:Lies. (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 24, 2010 @11:06AM (#34004010)

    Flash doesn't auto least not on my Macs.

  • Re:Lies. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 24, 2010 @11:11AM (#34004054)

    No, Flash does not auto-update on a Mac. Never has. I keep having to remember to install an updated version every couple of months. Firefox is frequently warning me about it.

    It's not because Apple don't allow it, or didn't ship it, or any of that nonsense. It's because Adobe couldn't be bothered to write one or use an existing one.

    There IS an auto-updated for Flash. On Windows. And it only updates the ActiveX control used by Internet Explorer, and not the NPAPI plug-in used by all other web browsers. It also doesn't seem to work - I have plenty of machines around here with out-of-date Flash ActiveX controls.

    Oddly, they did bother providing an apt repository for Ubuntu, so at least you can get automatic updates on that platform...

  • Re:Lies. (Score:3, Informative)

    by udippel ( 562132 ) on Sunday October 24, 2010 @11:17AM (#34004112)

    What's wrong with the mods, today??
    How is this 'insightful', when I have been installing - and millions, if not billions along with me -, and upgrading, Flash automagically with my, with our, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?

  • Re:Lies. (Score:5, Informative)

    by tysonedwards ( 969693 ) on Sunday October 24, 2010 @11:19AM (#34004128)
    Apple doesn't ship the "Adobe Flash" Package in OS X... They ship the Browser Plugin as a part of their Safari web browser.

    The Adobe Auto-Updater is not included.

    Apple only updated the Flash Plugin via Safari updates.
  • by Gadget_Guy ( 627405 ) * on Sunday October 24, 2010 @11:28AM (#34004210)

    Care to identify a source for this rumor, or are you just making shit up as you go?

    Apple, Java, and the App Store []. The same clause would cover Flash now it is not being installed by default.

    If you have a Apple Developer ID you can see the guidelines [] yourself.

  • Re:Lies. (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 24, 2010 @11:40AM (#34004308)

    whooo never used a modern linux, have you? It's 'automagical' (god, I hate that word) because the distro pulls a version of flash into the repositories of said distro and then users _don't_ have to go to a website, but just install flash using the tools with which they install all other software - a package manager. It's explicitly NOT the latest version from the website of the developer. No installer made by the developer has to be run manually.

    Also, with some distro's, you can now just tick a box during install to download proprietary software from the repos during install, so things like flash etc will work out of the box. That is just one tickbox, not going to a website, downloading and running the installer manually. If you don't see the difference, you're an idiot.

  • Re:Lies. (Score:4, Informative)

    by bsDaemon ( 87307 ) on Sunday October 24, 2010 @12:32PM (#34004646)

    If it were not for OS X, I would not use a Mac. All the style and design is nice, but if I were on MacOS 7 or MacOS 8, all the shiny in the world wouldn't help. Or maybe I'd use A/UX. I don't know. OS X gives me all the parts of UNIX I need, all the parts of NeXT I want, and the ability to do "normal user stuff" as well, without having to go out of my way.

    I, too, have never met a Mac fanboy stereotype either, just a lot of Unix admins who don't want to have to work when they're not at work.

  • Re:Lies. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Bert64 ( 520050 ) <bert&slashdot,firenzee,com> on Sunday October 24, 2010 @12:52PM (#34004760) Homepage

    No, the "installer" is already present on your system, you are simply downloading data for the installer to process.

    Using package management is hugely superior to the idea of manually downloading and executing a binary...

    You have the convenience (one command or a couple of clicks, no need to keep clicking next etc).

    If you use your distro repositories (which for most distros carry pretty much everything you want) there is far less risk of you getting a bad download, try googling for openoffice and see how many scam sites come up - and how many users do you think fall for them?

    You have automatic updates of all your packages at the same time and in one place, no need to do manual updates, no need to have loads of updaters running in the background wasting your memory and bandwidth, and you can update everything at a convenient time - many programs check for updates at startup, but what if you only use those programs when you are offline or connected via an expensive/metered connection such as 3g or on a line which treats peak and offpeak downloads separately? With a central package manager you can update everything at a time when you're on a fast unmetered connection.

  • by Mr. Underbridge ( 666784 ) on Sunday October 24, 2010 @01:19PM (#34004922)

    I give you credit for the false...trichotomy, but the preferred approach would be to ship an up-to-date version on a system that doesn't hang when it runs.

    Not saying Apple should/shouldn't do that, but you're being a tad dishonest in your phrasing of the options.

    It would also be somewhat disingenuous to consider any Apple vs. Flash decision in a vacuum. Make no mistake, this is a war for control and power over the mobile web. Flash on Mac is collateral damage.

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