4G iPhone Misplacer Invited To Germany For Beer 164
eldavojohn writes "You may recall the hapless engineer who left a fairly sensitive iPhone at a bar recently. Well, in a PR stunt, Lufthansa has invited him to visit Germany on their dime after citing his latest Facebook status, 'I underestimated how good German beer is' as well as his obvious passion for German beer and culture. It's not clear if Gray Powell has decided to 'pick up where he last left off' (as the letter puts it). I know what my decision would be."
First Prost (Score:5, Funny)
Re:First Prost (Score:5, Insightful)
But poor guy, here's another round of putting his real name on the web, as if the stupid Gizmodo stunt wasn't enough...
Dear Lufthansa (Score:5, Funny)
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So you are saying your "girlfriend" is a prostitute?
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Re:Dear Lufthansa (Score:5, Funny)
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Yeah he's doing it wrong. Of course it's not that easy, he needs to lose a newer iPhone prototype at a brothel, make a Facebook account, and set his status to "I underestimated how good German whores are."
Then just wait for your free trip to Germany for whores.
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Prototype implies quite...unused one. Not sure if such is typical for Slashdotters.
PS. Wouldn't your sig be even more appropriate with "Face your inner daemons!"? ;> (crap, now I have an idea of using MRI scans to have a real model of my own skull...but no access to MRI ;/ )
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What is the difference? You would take all those cross-sections of "black" and compose 3D model anyway... (this example [wikipedia.org] shows there must be a mode of operation giving perfectly fine outlines)
Anyway, yes, the particular tech is largely irrelavant (here just parent poster reminded me of MRI); point being it would be hard to obtain adequate scan without a good reason (and TBH I would prefer not to have one)
Re:Dear Lufthansa (Score:5, Funny)
I lost my girlfriend at a bar, can you send me to the Bunny Ranch?
It's more probable that your girlfriend lost you, considering your name.
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Oh please. He is posting to Slashdot. The odds of him having talked to a girl are 1 in 1+5E. Her being a girlfriend, as opposed to a 1-900 number, increases the odds by a factor of 40.
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That way you can get something you can never lose.
via twitter (Score:2)
Sure, just twitter the Bunny Ranch...
Anyone else think it was a bit strange they said "Please contact my team via Twitter..."? No phone number, no email, no... whatever, their preferred method of communication is twitter?
Don't get me wrong twitter is great when you want to send message to a few dozen (or thousand) friends, but I don't usually hear of someone using it as a one-way communication tool to an individual. Seemed very
Everyone's getting in on this PR (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm still convinced this was intentional, all the way around.
Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (Score:4, Insightful)
Next you know, Microsoft will benefit on it with something like "when you lose WinMob phone, it's sure to be there, waiting, when you get back"
That could possibly mean it wasn't intentional on Apple side after all, though...
Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Everyone's getting in on this PR (Score:5, Funny)
It takes a lot of beer for that to happen.
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I'm still convinced this was intentional, all the way around.
Yes, and you're still ignorant.
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Just for the latest, non-revolutionary update to an existing product?
What better time for an outrageous stunt? Nobody (outside the Reality Distortion Field, anyway) would care about a new iPhone that just has a faster CPU and more memory. After this event, though, there will be two months of constant coverage of the new iPhone that made the news just by being left in a bar.
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Taking some time off (Score:4, Funny)
Thanks! - It just so happens I'm free the next few weeks!
Great PR potential for Apple to squander (Score:5, Funny)
The guy fucked up. He fucked up so bad it's gone past serious to not just epic fail but epoch fail. Apple should just run with it.
Mac: Hi, I'm a Mac.
PC: Hi, I'm a PC.
Engineer: And I'm the idiot who lost the prototype iPhone.
Mac: Ouch.
PC: Wow. So that explains the sign around your neck? (points to sign reading "iDiot")
Engineer: Yeah. Steve told me I had to wear it.
PC: I lost a prototype Windows Mobile phone once.
Engineer and Mac: (reaction shots indicating sympathy)
PC: Actually I lost dozens of them, intentionally, hoping the tech blogs would take the bait. (casts eyes down.) Nobody cared.
Mac: (pats PC's shoulder consolingly.) Oh, PC, that's because Windows Mobile sucks.
Re:Great PR potential for Apple to squander (Score:4, Funny)
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Have a little robot come and and kick them all in the balls at the end and I'll greenlight it, kid!
Aye aye.
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That's one of the funniest /. posts I've ever read.
Best suggestion I heard (Score:2)
It would show he has a sense of humor...and no hard feelings. Probably won't happen but would be extremely cool.
And Gray?
Take the flight. Best way to end a bad week is to fly to Germany for a few free beers!
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Steve Jobs should call Gray out of the audience and have *him* introduce the new iPhone at the unveiling.
It would show he has a sense of humor...and no hard feelings. Probably won't happen but would be extremely cool.
There's precedent for this, kinda. After Pirates of Silicon Valley was released, the next Macworld Keynote started off with Noah Wyle coming on stage as Steve Jobs, before Jobs himself came on, exchanged a few jokes, and took over the show. This despite the final tone of the film which made it seem Steve Jobs was left humbled before a victorious Gates.
Meanwhile, though I can't find anything after a quick Google, I remember reading that BIll Gates complained about inaccuracies in the film and how he was port
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It was a better interface than anything out before, but it's still kinda unresponsive and has that flimsy "Windowsy" feel. Personally I still have a customised Windows ROM on my phone, but I'm thinking of moving to Android for my next device. I'm thankful to Apple for inspiring a bit of competition and creativity in the marketplace, but I've never been one for buying iThings so far..
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I used to use a WinMo phone, I found that it crashed often enough when a call would come in to be an annoyance, and the phone was quite slow. The slow could have easily been fixed with a faster proc, which is getting better on newer phones, but the random crashes were quite annoying. I now have a BlackBerry Storm which has the same lock up issues, though not as often.
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Au contraire, mon frère
Microsoft is quite adept at Embrace, Extend, Extinguish [knowledgerush.com]. They're also quite good at marketing despite some obvious missteps over the years.
One way ticket???? (Score:2)
not that big (Score:2)
I know what my decision would be
It's sweet, but not like a once in a lifetime opportunity or anything. Assuming he is a typical software engineer in silicon valley, an airplane ticket to Germany is the equivalent of a week or so worth of work. So it's kind of a nice condolence prize, but not really worth losing your job.
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Do we know that he hasn't lost his job already?
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Ummm..... I'm not sure what kind of work you do, but if you have to work *ONE* week to be able to afford an air ticket to Germany....
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Doesn't that depend where you work? It seems to be about $600 from New York, but twice that from San Francisco (it's approaching double the distance, after all).
Personally, I can afford a flight to Germany with last night's leftover cash (£25, London to Berlin in August, plus £15 for luggage). I can buy a flight to Denmark for £8 (again, plus £15 if I want to take checked luggage). I really should book a holiday somewhere...
Unprofessional, guys; (Score:5, Insightful)
I was already aghast at Gizmodo for running a story with the poor engineer's name -- there was absolutely no journalistic reason to give his name other than to give Gawker's editors a bit of titillation. He's a human being; human beings make mistakes. I'm more than slightly disappointed that Slashdot, a community that should be sympathetic to the guy, is having a laugh at his expense. Seriously -- who hasn't ever lost their phone or their wallet?
If, mind you, it was even legitimately lost in the first place -- which I still don't believe.
Re:Unprofessional, guys; (Score:5, Funny)
Seriously -- who hasn't ever lost their phone or their wallet?
Me.
Of course, having said that, I'm now going to lose both _and_ my car keys... Thanks.
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Seriously -- who hasn't ever lost their phone or their wallet?
Me.
The only hypothesis that could explain for such an unlikely event is: You have neither wallet nor phone.
CU, Martin :-)
Re:Unprofessional, guys; (Score:4, Insightful)
Can open, worms everywhere (Score:5, Interesting)
I was already aghast at Gizmodo for running a story with the poor engineer's name
Me too. Uncalled for.
I'm more than slightly disappointed that Slashdot, a community that should be sympathetic to the guy
They (we?) are... I mean, his name is known, so why not promote one positive thing that has happened for/to him in the last week? It's a way of saying, we feel terrible for you, but at least you can get a free trip to Germany and a nice beer to drown your sorrows.
I don't see this as having a laugh at his expense or mean spirited at all.
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They (we?) are... I mean, his name is known, so why not promote one positive thing that has happened for/to him in the last week?
Do you want to be the one to tell your boss you cleared this guy for a security-sensitive job? After he has seen the YouTube videos of him whooping it up in a Munich beer hall at Lufthansa's expense?
I didn't think so.
Repeat, I am against his outing (Score:2)
Do you want to be the one to tell your boss you cleared this guy for a security-sensitive job?
Nope. That's why I was in my ORIGINAL MESSAGE wholly against Gizmodo revealing his name. If they had not done so, I'd be wholly against Lufthansa doing so as well.
But if you recall from my ORIGINAL MESSAGE plus a ton of stories elsewhere, the damage is done already. It's not like his name being revealed a second time matters any more. so at least he potentially gets something positive - a free trip to Germany pl
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OK, his name is out, and he talked about it on his blog. At that point it's fine.
We are sympathetic, but he is getting a free trip to Germany out of it.
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I suspect this is a "Cat's out of the bag" situation. When Lufthansa is e-mailing you free ticket offers, it's probably time to accept that your name is out there and roll with it. Publishing his name now isn't going to make him any more or less famous (or infamous).
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I believe the attempt by Giz was to help the guy by making it public. The idea is that if many people know who he was, then Apple can't quietly fire him. They would take quite a hit for firing him at this point and it would look petty.
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No, the attempt by Giz was to drive clicks to their site, and thus push up their ad revenue.
This was never about altruism, not even as a side effect.
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iPhone Misplacer? (Score:2)
Relax people, it's meant as a joke, not a troll/flamebait/whatever.
Ulterior motives (Score:2)
Lufthansa is planning to get him drunk on the flight and hoping he'll leave his phone on the plane.
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ANd he shoud get a phone with a bunch of fake features in it... Or fill it full of seawater and seal it.
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German news wants their own iPhone 4G (Score:2)
I guess the thinking is that since he lost one, he probably has a replacement now. All they have to do is get him over to Germany, get him drunk, and hopefully he'll misplace his new one. Which will be an even later prototype to scoop Gizmodo.
After all, aren't C't and Heise based in Germany?
(Yes, that was a joke)
On a more serious note - it could also be that Apple realizes that iPhones just aren't news anymore. Look at their Macs - they tend to just get quietly refreshed these days unless there's some major
What about the money? (Score:4, Interesting)
P.S. Saying "German beer" is like saying "American beer". I'd honestly be curious what he was drinking, most of the interesting stuff is the local city brews and I can tell you some of them are every bit the flavorless piss water of Coors.
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"Should a company that's asking for millions of Euros in government bailouts be paying for publicity stunts?
yes. DO you know why companies do them? It's to get more business.
Al;so, German Beer as strict guidelines that don't apply to American Beer. I see you point, but you can get 'beer' made from rice in Germany.
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I'm not some snob either, I probably put down more Highlife than anything else but this idea that people have that ALL Belgians or Germans are incredible just shows that they've never drank in Europe. The real bastard with Belgians is that I spent five months there drinking anywhere a train can go, and every beer they serve is available at my local grocery store at the same price. Stupid globalization is taking all the fu
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I was talking about that when you get a beer in Germany, it's a beer with 4 ingredients in it! Not one or two or three but four! What the hell am I supposed to to with rice beer?
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Sorry.
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It's called marketing. They thinks it's cheaper than an advertising campaign, and they're almost certainly correct -- they're on the front page of several technical news sites. Next time you book a flight you're meant to think good things about Lufthansa and choose them.
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and how are those airlines doing?
Airlines are too cheap anyways. They should cost double what they do. And they would if they weren't propped up by the government.
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Sure I have to pay the bailouts, but if the government is going to take my money I'd rather get cheap air fair out of it then bridges to no where or another state of the art embassy.
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There's some good ones, there's some shit ones (Cologne I'm looking at you) but if you're comparing Carlsburg and Heineken to crafted beers I don't think you get much a different result than comparing Miller and Bud to one of the thousands of American microbrews. You pay for quality just like anywhere else, and having drank 6 euro 200ml
Free (Score:5, Funny)
Bailout (Score:2)
So the guy who lost the phone is getting bailed out with beer.
Interesting.
4G? (Score:2)
Is this just the 4th-generation iPhone, or will it operate on 4G LTE/WiMAX networks?
Apple really seeded confusion when they called their second-generation device the "3G", but got back in sync by calling their third-gen device the "3GS". If their 4th-gen device doesn't have 4G wireless, it'll be a mess again.
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Open letter to Apple: Forgiveness. (Score:2)
Dear Steve,
We haven't met, but unsolicited advice from a 30 year Apple customer, developer and publisher.
Developers, and also a bunch of executives, investors and publishers, are starting to get pissed off and could use some love as you tighten the screws.
This is an excellent opportunity to build good will. Don't fire the guy. Shit happens, and you will make a lot of points if you forgive him and let him get back to work. He'll take it to heart.
Remember, Google is not the only company that can attempt to "D
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Sees to me that if they were going to fire him, they would have by now. And since apparently the world reads his Facebook page, we'd probably know about it. Personally I hope they keep him on and use some of these hilarious advertising/promotional ideas I'm reading.
Made of money (Score:2)
I thought the airlines were struggling after the EU airspace was closed? so how can they throw around free flights and hospitality?
Of course, they're hoping to get business out this publicity I suppose.
Not surprising from Gizmodo (Score:2, Informative)
THERE IS NO iPhone 4G (Score:2)
THEREFORE: Apple will NOT release a 4G phone.
The next iPhone will be a 3G phone.
Tech writers and journalists are really showing their true colors with this Apple prototype fiasco. Not a single one of them has gotten the name right, nor have they acknowledged their mistakes. And don't tell me they're referring to Apple hardware generations. It is universally accepted that the capital 'G' after a number refers to only cell technology generations. Fur
Woz has fun with leaked iPhone T-shirt (photos) (Score:2)
Story:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003345-37.html?tag=mncol;posts
Picture:
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/04/23/wozGRAY_270x360.jpg
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Re:Is our friend unemployed? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:"Hapless" my ass (Score:4, Insightful)
If it were real, Apple could not only force Gizmodo to take down any mention of it, they could even get them arrested for possession of stolen property.
Nah. The cat's out of the bag, they know they can't shove it back in now, so they have to roll with it. It would only be bad press if they tried to get the info taken down or have anyone arrested, plus, everyone who wants the information already has it, so taking it down would accomplish nothing.
NPR had reported that according to "industry insiders" this was completely accidental. Apple doesn't need to pull a stunt like this to energize their fan base, and I doubt this will pull anyone new over to Apple's camp. What this does, however, is give Apple's competition a leg up on where they are heading with their next-gen device. Basically they had little gain and much to lose.
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they don't? even after the ipad? there is no way i believe this was an accident. especially since it's exactly the same 'accident' that MS used recently for their wii-mote rip off for the xbox. i wouldn't be surprised if they both 'found' it themselves and called the press. who doesn't want millions in free publicity all over the net and the news?
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Actually, according to a few sources, the original person who found the item attempted to contact Apple, and he was ignored. No stolen property if you attempt to return and the owner doesn't want it.
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If it were real, Apple could not only force Gizmodo to take down any mention of it, they could even get them arrested for possession of stolen property.
Silicon Valley police are investigating the matter of the stolen phone. If this were an intentional leak, do you think that would happen? Apple would be on the hook for filing a false police report.
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Well the Germans are so well-known for being laidback...
Re:Famous (Score:4, Funny)
most laidback airline personnel I ever dealt with on a long flight.
Well the Germans are so well-known for being laidback...
I suspect Dutch outsourcing..
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I'm always puzzled by this difference between English and American*.
It's not a difference between English and American, it's a difference between English and Idiot. Americans who aren't idiots get it right too...
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American is sarcastic English, remember that, and it all makes sense~
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I could care less, but I wont.