iPhone 3GS Finally Hacked 376
Well, the inevitable hacking of Apple's latest flavor of iPhone has happened. Named "purplera1n," the tool will only allow installation of unauthorized applications instead of a full unlock. "The purplera1n jailbreak will free your iPhone from the limitations imposed on it by AT&T and Apple. After jailbreaking, a user will be able to customize the iPhone with home-screen wallpapers and third-party ringtones. But the biggest advantage of jailbreaking is the support of unapproved apps such as iBlackList (blacklists and whitelists for contacts) and many others."
Don't need to jailbreak for wallpaper/ring tones (Score:1, Informative)
You can set the wallpaper and use third party ring tones without jailbreaking an iPhone. Apple doesn't restrict them THAT much.
Re:Don't need to jailbreak for wallpaper/ring tone (Score:5, Informative)
iTunes The Real Problem (Score:5, Informative)
Does this unlock it though? (Score:3, Informative)
Unlocking the damn thing would be the single most useful feature (for use with providers other than ATT).
The 3GS Unlock is available (Score:5, Informative)
The 3GS unlock & jailbreak has been available since midnight last night.
http://blog.iphone-dev.org/ [iphone-dev.org]
The usual culprits (the iPhone DevTeam) were waiting until the 3.1 release but it looks like their hand was forced by an independent hacker releasing his jailbreak on Friday.
There was a LOT of stuff you after jailbreaking (background apps, tether, etc) on the 1.x and 2.x OS releases but as Apple adds more features with each consecutive release, I'm finding the need to jailbreak a little less compelling. I still will, b/c I find a terminal + SSH alone to be compelling but once tethering is official, I may just go back to an un-jailbroken state. I still need the unlock, of course.
Mine's hacked and unlocked (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The 3GS Unlock is available (Score:3, Informative)
If you need the unlock, you will need the jailbreak.
Re:err, why? (Score:5, Informative)
If you keep repeating it, it may become true.
Not that G1 is greatest phone ever made (and you have to be a fanboi to make such a claim, which seems to be iphone-only case), but if you are talking about being able to install apps I want to, I can do it today, without worrying about it being locked out/bricked when next updates come along. Also, I do not have to pay for features when they are released - Android update to 1.5 was free. ("free" - look it up in dictionary).
Re:Don't need to jailbreak for wallpaper/ring tone (Score:5, Informative)
Re:err, why? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Don't need to jailbreak for wallpaper/ring tone (Score:3, Informative)
AFAIK, that no longer works. You have to use Apple lossless now. My understanding is that they disabled the AAC method because they don't want people making their own ringtones.
Yes, it is a pain, it's unofficial and undocumented, and for all i know will break again in a future patch?
Re:err, why? (Score:2, Informative)
So that their is a way to do this after all is somewhat beside the point.
Note that here in Australia we probably have it better with I Phones as
Re:jailbreak justification (Score:1, Informative)
A HTC Windows Mobile phone has most of these
My AT&T Tilt has:
A) a (captive) touchscreen
No. Its resistive. Still its a touch.
B) A decent mobile browser good enough for light-medium browsing
Yes. Download Opera Mini or SkyFire (both free)
C) Thousands of free apps
Maybe not thousands but I can write my own (I have) or download them.
Nobody (not even MS) tries to intervene.
D) A decent enough camera
Its OK (3MP). Other newer HTC phones have better. Like most camera phones it really needs a camera flash.
E) is GSM
Yes
F) Has wi-fi
Yes (And bluetooth etc)
G) Has a large selection of decent games
Haven't looked
H) costs under $300 under contract
I think it was $199 after rebates
I) Is avalible now in the USA
Its actually been superceded by newer, better models.
J) has a provider with decent enough 3G coverage
AT&T
Also has GPS.... Added a 8GB MicroSD card for $20
Borderline insanity (Score:5, Informative)
That's not particularly evil - the itunes-iphone connection does more than just sync files. What is borderline insanity is:
Re:iTunes The Real Problem (Score:2, Informative)
Re:err, why? (Score:5, Informative)
UNLESS you pay full retail price, you do NOT own the device. Even then.. you only own the hardware, not the OS, which is only LICENSED to you. Nor do you, at that point, still have any right to use whatever SIM card you want to in it. NOR do you have any warranty.
First, wrong. I DO own the device if I purchase it. If I am specifically LEASING it, I don't. If I stop paying my bill they can turn off my service and send me to collections for the service, NOT the device.
Second, I DO have the right to use any SIM card I want. Wireless providers are required to unlock your phone. They can charge for it, but that wasn't the statement.
Re:Mine's hacked and unlocked (Score:3, Informative)
Wow, ...and I just got an HTC Touch Pro and..erm..installed pretty much anything I wanted to run 'just like that'
Re:err, why? (Score:3, Informative)
Let me guess: You never had a Nokia phone with Symbian.
Re:err, why? (Score:5, Informative)
Not necessarily.
From a security point of view, it can be very sensible to have a locked down device. Take computers. A lot of users out there would want a computer that can do nothing but browse the web and write emails, along with the ability to view pictures and movies and maybe do a little office work. That's it. Essentially, they don't need or want a full blown machine.
Sure, they could make a restricted account and use that. But they neither know how to do that nor do they want to learn. So what happens? They surf around with administrator privileges (because "it works") and likely become a spambot.
For them, outsourcing that problem to someone else would certainly be something they would not mind. And, frankly, I'd welcome it as a step towards more security.
I wouldn't want such a computer, and I would not buy it. Just as much as I did not and will not buy an iPhone. But just because it would be the wrong device for me doesn't mean it can't be the right device for anyone else.
Re:Don't need to jailbreak for wallpaper/ring tone (Score:3, Informative)
Nokias can use MP3, I usually use the phone Wifi to download them directly to the memory card, without passing through the PC.
Re:iTunes The Real Problem (Score:2, Informative)
This argument makes no sense. Apple hasn't locked you out of anything. Apple made the software which syncs to their hardware, just like Microsoft makes the software (ActiveSync) that syncs to their windows mobile OS, and Palm makes the software that syncs to their hardware (Palm Desktop).
No, Apple deliberately designed the syncing protocol to lock out third-party software on the iPhone and iPod Touch, and have put in the effort to keep it that way. There was reverse-engineered code for the 1.3 firmware, but Apple modified their cryptographic authentication to lock it out again (and we're talking strong cryptography here). Palm, on the other hand, were fairly open with their sync protocol and you can get all sorts of third-party sync software.
Re:Only in apple world... (Score:3, Informative)
No, in Apple's world I use iSync to automatically synchronise my phone with the address book and calendar on my laptop. This works over Bluetooth, so I don't need to plug anything in, I just put the phone in the same room as the laptop. I can copy music and photos across too, using the Bluetooth file browser that comes with OS X to drag and drop files between the Finder and the phone. For individual files it's sometimes quicker to just use Bluetooth Object Exchange from the phone by selecting the picture and saying 'send to...'.
But then, I bought a cheap Nokia phone, not an iPhone.
RTFA - you decide, not them (Score:3, Informative)
Why would anyone buy a device where someone *else* decides what apps you can run and what you cannot run?
I wouldn't.
The reality is that:
(a) Jailbroken, I can run things Apple or AT&T don't want me to.
(b) As a developer, I can write and deploy ANYTHING I want to the phone (and if you don't care to make it dead simple for $99/year, you can always use the open toolchain to do the compiling).
You don't even always have to jailbreak to do something, for instance there's a simple file you download on the phone itself to enable tethering on AT&T in the U.S....
I don't understand why people ignore the reality of a situation to complain about the way something ships from the factory. The truth is the iPhone is jailbroken, and always will be - Apple doesn't really care so I don't see why anyone else should. As technical people we should be focused on what is possible, not how something arrives to us initially.
Re:Don't need to jailbreak for wallpaper/ring tone (Score:3, Informative)
Sorry, I'm not understanding from where your confusion stems.
The first thing I tried to do after getting the iphone 3gs was to make a ringtone. I tried with AAC as numerous forums/blogs/etc mentioned--it did not work. I tried with apple lossless as other posts suggested if the first method didn't work. That worked. Does that make sense?
I just tried again with several different files...oddity upon oddity, aac method worked fine on all except for the first file I had tried which simply does not import into itunes after converted to aac and changed to m4r. So it appears I was more or less wrong--AAC _does_ still work (at least most of the time). The file that fails as a aac ringtone is an ogg file before conversion...I wonder if that could be an issue.
And also, FWIW, have no idea if this is trustworthy or not... http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115290-233.html [cnet.com]