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Grey Lines Mar MacBook Air Displays 288

adamengst writes "Numerous users have been complaining about grey lines that muddy the crispness of the displays of the recently updated MacBook Air. Doug McLean explains the problem in TidBITS, along with what Apple appears to be doing about it."
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Grey Lines Mar MacBook Air Displays

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  • Suprise... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 05, 2008 @09:19AM (#26001767)

    Apple is using low quality displays! [/sarcasm]
    No seriously in all laptop reviews I have read so far the testers complained about the displays. So not really suprising news

  • Macrap (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 05, 2008 @09:28AM (#26001827)

    Unlucky, thats what you happens when you buy toys.

  • tag: appleispants (Score:1, Insightful)

    by apathy maybe ( 922212 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @09:31AM (#26001849) Homepage Journal

    tag: appleispants

    'Cause apple is pants.

    Anyway, it sounds like a clear case of bad hardware, and thus should be replaced. Obviously still in the warranty period, 'cause the items are barely a few months old.

    Though, actually, the article talks about updating firmware. Odd.

    Actually, the entire article doesn't say much at all.

  • by kannibal_klown ( 531544 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @09:52AM (#26002029)

    Which means since I mostly use ot for development I reach this stage after a few hours of work.

    You see, that's what I don't get. No offense, but was the Air really the best machine for development?

    I thought it was a neat little laptop, but I avoided it specifically because of my machine needs: a programmer's rig.

    Now if I wanted a small laptop that I carried around with me to do minor things then I might consider it as it looks like it might travel better, but it would be a secondary machine to my coding rig (be it a MB Pro or a Desktop)..

  • by Yvan256 ( 722131 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @10:25AM (#26002373) Homepage Journal

    You, sir, are obviously not a Mac user.

    "Snappier" is a term which is reserved for talking about Safari, after an update (no matter if it's faster or not).

    ex: Wow, Safari 4.0 is snappier!

  • by theaveng ( 1243528 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @10:37AM (#26002479)

    Actually it's more like a church revival meeting.

    "WE know the truth. WE have the answer. While 'they' wander in darkness, WE have found the light! Can I get an Amen brothers?" "Amen!"
    "We don't have to worry about viruses. We don't have to worry about drivers. We have the crispest displays in the industry. We have the best-built computers in the world. Am I right brothers?"
    "Yes sir!"
    "Praise be to Apple!"
    "And the Macintosh!"

    Actually this kinda reminds me circa 1990 with my Commodore Amiga. Fortunately I went off to college and now I'm a bleeding-heart liberal just like all the other students. The answer lies not in cold steel and plastic, but in the ever-loving arms of Brother Government. Mmmm-hmmm.

  • Premium laptop? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Hurricane78 ( 562437 ) <deleted&slashdot,org> on Friday December 05, 2008 @10:38AM (#26002501)

    [...] and result in a disappointing display, particularly for a premium laptop.

    Since when is the MacBook Air a premium laptop? It sure has a premium price. And it looks stylish. But that's it.
    You know what else is like that? An expensive whore "girlfriend". ;) (Apple fans, stay with me! :)

    I think Apple has done some cool things. But this (or the iPhone) is not one of them.
    The 18 bit display was the first hint.

    It's more a EEE PC concurrent. Which means that it's useless for real full use, because of its slowness and lack of features (one example being Firewire).
    This is fully ok, if the laptop is really cheap. Unfortunately, that's where the MacBook Air fails. It's not cheap. It's really expensive (compared to the real market. Not to other overprices Apple products.)

    I really wonder, how cool Apple's products would be, if they had concurrency in their own domain. If for example MacOS XI would have a HAL that would allow other companys to do the same with their systems. They would have to look good and have more features to have a chance, so Apple would have to add even more, thereby lowering the price to a realistic market level.

  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @11:42AM (#26003215) Homepage

    dude you're not looking closely.

    it's only 4 wires! not even a full 8 wire pack. only the orange and blue pairs are in that cable.

    It's the ultimate scam.

  • by stewbacca ( 1033764 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @11:44AM (#26003249)
    It means, "I'm the typical slashdot hack who isn't nearly as clever as I think, so I'll just post some stupid meme to sound intelligent".
  • Lies (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 05, 2008 @11:47AM (#26003275)

    The picture in the article is of Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) OS.

    Not one Macbook Air has ever shipped with Tiger, as it was introduced after the introduction of leopard.

  • by hjf ( 703092 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @01:05PM (#26004303) Homepage

    you need all 4 pairs for gigabit ethernet.

  • by Vancorps ( 746090 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @01:18PM (#26004455)
    You mean only four wires are required for 10/100 Ethernet. POE and GIGe both require all the wires in a standard Cat5e or Cat6 cable. They also don't tolerate interference over distance as well.
  • by default luser ( 529332 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @01:29PM (#26004573) Journal

    Well if you're trasmitting digital without any sort of error correction, say SPDIF over copper, then the quality of the cable does matter. Noise WILL cause a change in the received data, and your equipment won't know any better.

    Yeah. Get back to me when you find a DATA-GRADE cable that's so crappy it can't transmit data at 1.5 Mbps. I think you'd have to fall back to doorbell wiring and get yourself some Cat 1 [].

  • by Mister Whirly ( 964219 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @02:25PM (#26005319) Homepage
    Really? A salesperson who works on commission recommended you buy the much more expensive product rather than the cheap one? Gadzooks! That sounds almost *gasp* unethical! And from a salesman! They are usually the bastion of ethics and morals.

    I like how at Best Buy the salespeople will tell you "We don't get commission." But I can guarantee you they get a bonus for selling the bogus "product protection service" crap. I have never seen more aggressive techniques to get you to buy the coverage. One time I was buying a $20 product, and was asked if I wanted to buy "protection" for it. Just for laughs I asked how much it would be. "$19.99 for 2 years" was the answer. I laughed in his face and told him if it broke anytime in the next 2 years, i would just come back and buy a brand new one for the same price, without the hassle of having to return the item and wait for them to decide to send me a new one. Or if in broke in 3-4 years, I would have already spent $40 on it and would have to spend another $20 to replace it. Now which plan sounds better?
  • by JoeMerchant ( 803320 ) on Friday December 05, 2008 @02:50PM (#26005657)

    For me, it's cost-benefit. The MacBookPro is bitch-worthy because it's reaching that nuisance cost exceeding cost of replacement threshold (5 minutes per day vs cost of whatever replaces it).

    Fixing the Vista box just isn't worth it at this stage, I lose about 3-5 minutes a week to its flakiness - I could spend several hours with Dell for a 50% chance that they might do something about it with a further 50% chance that whatever they do won't really work. Add to that the risk that my system setup might be hosed during the repair attempts and we're risking maybe 100 hours of re-setup against the possible repair; and, no, I don't trust (Windows based whole system) backup software to function properly, either - there's a time investment in doing that properly and a further chance that it still doesn't work even if you did it properly. There's the other possible solution of plumping out $400 for another box that might work right, but even with that option, there's several hours invested in transferring the system over, and a strong chance of new and worse weirdness than I've presently got.

    The worst option of all is investing the time and effort required to learn and keep current in PC technology sufficiently to diagnose and cost-efficiently fix all little nuisances that crop up. Five minutes a week is small beer compared to that treadmill.

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