Apple Announces MacBook Air 1218
Apple made four announcements at MacWorld Expo: the new MacBook Air, new features for the iPhone and iPod Touch, and movie rentals via iTunes from a TV without a computer involved. The new portable gets most of the attention. It is 0.76" thick at the thickest part, tapering to 0.16". It weighs 3 pounds and has a 13.3" screen and full-size, backlit keyboard. Its Intel chip is the diameter of a dime and the thickness of a nickel. The MacBook Air will cost $1799 and up. Its storage is either 80 GB disk or 64 GB solid-state drive. 2 GB of memory. It has no optical drive (an external one is available for $99) and features a way to wirelessly use the optical drive of any nearby Mac or PC with the proper software installed.
A grand for a 64G SSD drive? (Score:5, Informative)
Hard Drive
Your MacBook Air comes standard with a Parallel ATA (PATA) 4200-rpm hard drive. Or you can choose a solid-state drive that delivers faster performance and greater durability.
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Wow. Just Wow. Transcript from http://www.macrumorslive.com/ [macrumorslive.com]
10:26 am New Ad for MacBook Air. Plays off of the ability to fit in an envelope.
10:25 am Pre-orders today, shipping in two weeks
10:24 am $1799
10:24 am 2 GB Memory standard
10:23 am 5 hours of Battery Life
10:23 am No optical drive, but a Superdrive accessory is available for $99. Also, software comes with the MacBook Air that allows you to "borrow" a Mac or PCs optical drive.
10:21 am 802.11n + Bluetooth 2.1/EDR
10:20 am Other features: 45 Watt MagSafe, 1 USB 2.0 port, Micro-DVI, Audio Out
10:19 am Steve retaking stage
10:19 am Otellini: The processor is as thick as a nickle and as wide as a dime.
10:18 am Apple asked Intel to shrink the Core 2 Duo. Intel shrunk the processor by 60%. Paul Otellini, CEO of Intel is taking the stage
10:17 am 1.6 GHz Standard, 1.8 GHz Option -- Intel Core 2 Duo
10:16 am 80 GB hard disk standard, 64 GB SSD as an option. "they're pricy, but they're fast"
10:15 am 1.8" Hard Drive
10:15 am How did we fit a Mac in here?
10:15 am Move a window by double-tap and move. Rotate a photo by pivoting your index finger around your thumb. Of course, pinch-zoom.
10:14 am Multi-touch trackpad
10:13 am display is LED backlit. iSight is built-in. MacBook-like keyboard, but with an ambient light sensor
10:12 am Magnetic latch, 13.3" widescreen display
10:12 am MacBook Air is 0.16" to 0.76". The thickest part of the MacBook Air is thinner than the thinnest part of the Sony. It fits inside a envelope
10:10 am We thought 3 lbs is a good target weight, but there was too much compromise with the other features
10:10 am Most people think of Sony TZ series when they think of thin notebooks. Competition specs: 3 lbs,
10:08 am "The World's Thinnest Notebook"
10:08 am As you know, Apple makes the best notebooks in the industry. Today, we are introducing a third kind of notebook. It's called the MacBook Air
10:08 am 4th thing: There's something in the air
10:07 am Steve has re-taken the stage
Re:A grand for a 64G SSD drive? (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.google.com/products?q=64gb+ssd+1.8%22 [google.com]
Compared to the MacBook: (Score:1, Informative)
+ Thinner
+ Lighter
+ Multitouch trackpad
+ Backlit keyboard
+ LED display
+/- Height and width are identical
+/- GPU is identical
- more expensive
- slower CPU
- sucky 1.8" HD or expensive SSD
- optical drive is optional external extra
- 1 x USB, 1 x analog audio out, 0 x ethernet, 0 x firewire
- less battery life
Re:Expensive (Score:3, Informative)
Or... (Score:1, Informative)
For some reason I thought when Apple release a sub-notebook that it might be something within a reasonable price range (i.e. less than the MacBooks), god only knows what made me think that.
I was going to check the UK pricing but all I get when jumping to the UK Apple site is a 500 internal server error, the US version of the site is just unusably slow.
I know these type of announcements are going to put a lot of strain on a site, but I don't remember any other large tech. companies suffering such an outage.
Re:Solid state drive? (Score:5, Informative)
Seriously, they have no moving parts - which do you think will fail first? The manufacturers have been working on the limited write capacity for years such that they believe it's no longer an issue. Modern flash memory can already silently correct for any parts that can no longer be written.
Now all we need is for production to ramp up and the cost to come down.
Re:Expensive (Score:5, Informative)
Re:"Integrated Battery" (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Short on Options! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I'm underwhelmed (Score:5, Informative)
No way. The iPhone (which is 8GB max) uses flash and has zero space left inside. If you're talking 32GB flash, you're adding hundreds of dollars to an already hefty price to get that much flash, and you'd still possibly need to slim down the battery to make more space for flash chips (the thing is seriously packed inside). And a 32GB hard drive like the one in the current iPods wouldn't fit in 1/16 of an inch.
Re:Movie Rentals? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Short on Options! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:"Integrated Battery" (Score:3, Informative)
Other posters with a need to work untethered for 5 or more hours have a legitimate complaint. For them this laptop is not an option and they will either spend more for a slower Sony (if they have a 3 lb. model with replaceable batteries), or carry more weight for a faster Macbook. That's life.
Re:A grand for a 64G SSD drive? (Score:4, Informative)
That's pretty clost the current going price for a 64 GB SSD.
The cheapest 64 GB SSD I've seen so far is $949 from Dell [dell.com]
In Early 2007, a 32GB SSD could set you back over $2,000 [techdepot.com] so the price per GB has already dropped by a factor of four in the past year.
However, like all technology, SSD's are getting cheaper and cheaper as component prices are falling and the mass production is picking up.
Re:Wot no optical drive? (Score:5, Informative)
* Buy the accessory for $99, then just not carry it with you when you travel.
* Use the built-in software to "borrow" the optical drive on another Mac or PC and use that for ripping.
* Rip it on your other system and then transfer it over the network.
Basically there are several good options.
Re:Wot no optical drive? (Score:5, Informative)
The DMCA, in no uncertain terms, criminalizes the very *act* of breaking the CSS encryption on DVDs.
"No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title."
Time Capsule (Score:5, Informative)
Re:WTF? (Score:3, Informative)
Lithium Ion degradation NOT covered by applecare (Score:5, Informative)
This argument is often trotted out for the iPod, etc. It's specious. First, it's not expensive to install a new one -- it's free as part of your AppleCare.
Bullshit. The warranty specifically excludes reduced battery consumption as a result of use/age, both under the standard warranty and the Applecare extended warranty. At least they're (more) upfront about it now than they used to be...they now mention that Lithium Ion batteries degrade with time and use, etc.
Re:Open Apple (Score:3, Informative)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Apple_512k.jpg [wikimedia.org] shows an early Mac keyboard with no Open Apple.
Re:But.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:WTF? (Score:5, Informative)
"Every MacBook Air includes a micro-DVI port so users can connect to Apple's gorgeous 20-inch or 23-inch Cinema Displays to extend their desktop or connect to projectors and other displays via DVI, VGA, Composite and S-video adapters. "
Won't hook up to my 30" Cinema display, 'tho.
Re:Expensive (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Expensive (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Wot no optical drive? (Score:3, Informative)
And transferring a DVD over a wireless network? HAH!
At 2 MBps (more throughput than most people actually get with 802.11g), an actual DVD will take how long to transfer?
About 8000 MB = 4000 seconds = over an hour.
If you want them to compress the movie, then they lose quality and have to spend time compressing it, and still transfer about a gig of data.
They obviously couldn't fit the damned optical drive in there, but $99 for an external drive is rape. Typical Apple.
Seriously - how hard would it have been to include an ethernet jack?
I bet dollars to donuts that the next revision has a GigE port on it.
You pay for size (Score:4, Informative)
A more apt comparison is the one Jobs did, with the Sony slim notebook, and the Sony's more expensive.
Re:Expensive (Score:4, Informative)
Its also twice as thick, weights 25% more, has a smaller screen and as you say comes with half the ram. Also, in order to get a similar battery time you need the extra big battery. Still a fairly good deal if the Thinkpad has everything you need but for some people the lighter computer with the larger screen might be worth the money.
Re:Expensive (Score:5, Informative)
First, I wholeheartedly agree that there is a market for sub-notebooks. I've been wanting to pick one up myself. I consider the Macbook to be on the larger side of the sub-notebook class of computers. What I was talking about was specifically the Macbook Air, specifically compared to Apple's next smallest notebook.
Here's what you get going from the stock Macbook to the Macbook Air:
2 pounds lighter.
0.25 inches thinner, at its thickest.
Spiffy new touchpad.
OLED screen, meaning that the LCD should last longer (this is a marginal improvement)
1 extra gb of RAM, base (costs $150 to add to the Macbook on Apple's website, $50 to add after-market)
Trendy new computer that few other people have.
Here's what you give up:
1 optical drive
1 USB port
1 Firewire port (probably not a big deal to travelers)
1 replaceable battery (meaning that your travelers won't be able to carry a spare)
1 hour of battery life (even worse considering the lack of a replaceable battery)
1 ethernet jack (probably not a big deal, since wireless is slowly becoming ubiquitous)
400mhz on the low end, 200mhz on the high end.
Replaceable RAM (RAM starts going bad? Your Mac is going in for service. Hope it doesn't go bad after the warranty is up.)
Stereo speakers
Optical audio out
$600
I simply can't believe that the things you get are highly sought after.
Absolutely right (Score:2, Informative)
Most people DON'T need all that. But most people DO need SOME of that. And if you add it all together, most people AREN'T going to get WHAT THEY NEED.
Now, you can debate whether the Mac approach is better than Microsoft's (=We give you ALL you need, but each bit of it only works 80% of the time. Most people will need to use FIVE such elements, so it will only work, (Pet 2.0 fans, help me out here) 32.768% of the time), but the fact is, fashionable obsolescence is part of Apple's game plan. And we can always needle you for it.
Re:Short on Options! (Score:2, Informative)
It works.
anyone else think that adding a DV-sized firewire port to this thing would have been trivial?
Firewire requires 12V; battery on this is only 7.4V.
(Posting anonymous.)
Re:Durability & EEE (Score:2, Informative)
To be fair, you're right about movies and music and I hope that's something that future generations of sublaptops will solve as solid state drives come down in price, though movies on an Eee would be a slightly disappointing affair due to the size of the screen. My only other gripe is the size of the keyboard, which I feel could have been just slightly larger, but at the price it's hard to complain.
Let's just not forget that there's about a $1300 difference in price between these two machines, which is quite important if your very budget conscious and looking for a great student machine or something more useful than a PDA at around the same price.
OMG, I'm starting to sound like an Asus fanboy...
Re:But.... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:"Integrated Battery" (Score:3, Informative)
Re:AAPL tanks (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Short on Options! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:WTF? (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:Wot no optical drive? (Score:3, Informative)
When it comes to whether or not speed is a primary cause of accidents you should be aware that if you include all roads in the U.S. then the average speed an accident occurs at is 29mph. If you take highways out of the picture it drops to 27mph. This data suggests that speed is not causal in most situations.
Given this data (and if you don't believe me, by all means go look it up -- that's what I did) you should wonder why it is that traffic enforcement focuses on speeding almost to the exclusion of everything else, even though speeding is a very small fraction of the problem. But speeding is easy to enforce and brings in a lot of revenue, both for the government and (critically) for the insurance companies. This is a major part of why speed limits are artificially low on highways in the U.S.; it's easy money.
If we were really interested in safety we'd spend a lot more time enforcing rules at intersections where almost all accidents occur. Unfortunately automated tools like red light cameras have not proven effective in reducing accident rates; quite the contrary, they have boosted them. There are numerous theories as to why this is, but the one I adhere to is that the yellow light period is usually shortened when it should be lengthened. The way it is now people slam the brakes on when the light goes yellow and they get rear-ended. Oops.
Oh, about that MacBook Air. I would like one. It's not quite what I want -- I want a 13" MacBook Pro -- but I love the form factor. The huge downside I see is not the lack of an optical drive, which I can carry if I need or not if I don't, but the non-replaceable battery. 5 hours, even if that is a real number, is not enough for a cross-country flight. If or when my MacBook finally dies I will probably get one regardless, the MacBook has not been durable enough, but it would be a lot more useful if I could carry spare batteries.
Re:Expensive (Score:1, Informative)
Apple Legal & shareholder lawsuits (Score:5, Informative)
In general, updates to existing products are not allowed to be free if they add new features, only if they fix bugs. There are a bunch of exceptions, including for products that are given away, like iTunes. I expect that the iPhone is actually being "sold" a bit at a time over the course of the mandatory 2-year contract, and so since customers are still technically paying for them, it's okay to add new features in a software update.
I didn't much like this explanation the first time I heard it, but given the number of shareholder lawsuits Apple already gets every year, they definitely have reason to be cautious. As long as the prices for feature upgrades remain relatively low, it probably won't anger the customer base too much, and it'll hopefully keep the class-action lawyers at bay.
Re:Expensive (Score:4, Informative)
I don't consider features like a backlit keyboard or a FireWire 800 port to be necessities, so I have no problem comparing the MBP to competing models that have the same size screen, same CPU, same hard drive and optical drive, same networking features, etc. but a much lower price tag. For example, a configured HP dv6700t with the same basic specs as the low-end MacBook Pro costs $958.99 - less than half as much as the MBP.
Re:WTF? (Score:5, Informative)
So get a bluetooth mouse. That'll leave your USB port open...
Re:WTF? (Score:4, Informative)
Ram doesnt "start going bad." (Score:5, Informative)
Sure, it could happen. Congratulations, a high-tech laptop is less serviceable than a whitebox PC. Whoddathunk it?
As for the optical drive, I use mine every other month, why should I carry it around every day?
The battery
Optical audio out? Completely useless. Stream over wifi or Bluetooth (has Apple implement hifi audio on their bluetooth stack in Leopard?). Apple sells a device for that.
You're missing the point. The Air is not replacing the MacBook, it's a new product. So yeah, it's expensive. Too expensive for me, I'm keeping my MacBook and will buy an EEE to carry around, but this is a nice product and will sell like hotcakes, no doubt about it.
Re:WTF? (Score:2, Informative)
> to be wireless back in the seventies, that's why it's called ethernet.
> Running it over wires was only ever supposed to be a short term hack
> while they sorted out getting the radio link working.
Do you have any evidence at all for this statement?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet [wikipedia.org]
Wired networking in general and wired ethernet, in specific, is not a "short-term hack". Physical networks will always have higher bandwidth and greater security than their wireless siblings. The reason is basic physics. Wireless communication has to deal with tons of issues (interference, etc.) that wired networks don't have to.
That's Apple's margin... the "Mac Tax". (Score:3, Informative)
You can get a Lenovo Thinkpad comparable (pretty much chip for chip) to the $1200 Macbook for under $900. The Mac mini is under $400 worth of hardware for $600. This is the "Mac Tax", it's what you pay for the ability to run OS X. Mac fanatics will come up with a fantasy price comparison that will make the difference go away, or claim that the Wintel boxes aren't as reliable, but the difference is real. But the difference is also worth it - it's not "brand identity" that we're getting, it's the ability to run applications that don't suck on an OS that doesn't suck.
Oh, by the way: "GMA X3100 (which is the best *embedded* card on the market)"? It may be better than the execrable GMA 950, but if I was getting a Thinkpad I'd still pay the extra $200 to get an nVidia or ATI GPU... even if it was embedded. Intel GPUs have been SO bad for SO long that there's no way I'll trust them to get it right until they've established a solid track record.
Re:I have to say (Score:3, Informative)
1. The air is a lot thinner and less sturdy than the X61 for the same weight. This may be a stylistic plus, but it also makes the hardware a lot less breakable, and I think they made the wrong choice here.
Also, it ships with Leopard instead of Vista.
Still, it seems silly not to include Ethernet. I suppose there's an adapter, but blah.
Re:Expensive (Score:4, Informative)
It's accounting rules, actually (Score:3, Informative)
Basically, software is tied to hardware as a "bundle", but if you provide "extra features" at a later date, then you technically did not deliver full bundle, and should not have recognized the revenue from the original sale. This is because accounting rules try to remove "shenanigans" that have happened in the systems integrators of the past where software was promised but was still being built after the deal had closed & revenue recognized!
So, if Apple were to give away the iPod Touch update for free, they'd have to restate their earnings from back when it was first released, because they didn't technically "sell" the Touch back then, they completed delivery now.
If, however, they charge for the update, at a nominal price, it's considered a set of extras and isn't tied to the original bundle.
The iPhone doesn't have to deal with this because they accrue the revenue over several years.