Steve Jobs Hates Buttons 713
ElvaWSJ writes "While many technology companies load their products up with buttons, Steve Jobs treats them as blemishes that add complexity and hinder their clean aesthetics.
The iPhone is Steve Jobs's attempt to crack a juicy new market for Apple Inc. But it's also part of a decades-long campaign by Mr. Jobs against a much broader target: buttons.
The new Apple cellphone famously does without the keypads that adorn its rivals. Instead, it offers a touch-sensing screen for making phone calls and tapping out emails. The resulting look is one of the sparest ever for Apple, a company known for minimalist gadgets. "
Problem is.... (Score:5, Informative)
I design high end interfaces for home theaters (where the remote it's self costs around $2500.00US or more.) and the number one thing my customers like is not the fancy graphics, cool animations or nicely laid out controls on the touchscreen.. but the VOLUME CONTROL HARD BUTTONS built into the side edge. They like being able to without looking press volume up or down or mute instead of having to look at the screen and press a non tactile feedback graphical button.
Buttons have their use, you cant get rid of them.
Buttons as Features (Score:5, Informative)
I see his point, but OTOH, there are times when buttons ARE preferable. I can text a message on my cellphone without looking at the phone because there is a tactile reference to where each key is located. This is quite handy (pun intended!) Try texting a message inconspicuously at your next boring meeting.
Re:How is the buttonless iphone to use (Score:3, Informative)
What would really help is if all of iPhone's apps used the widescreen keyboard when you turn the unit sideways. For now it only does this in Safari (and it has to be in landscape mode before you bring up the keyboard).
Re:I wish I had a button... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Problem is.... (Score:5, Informative)
I just checked with my friend who has an iPhone, and it -does- have hard buttons for volume on the side. So as much as he hates them, he didn't go crazy.
Re:Problem is.... (Score:4, Informative)
A $2500 remote, and you make do with +/- buttons to adjust the volume? Augh! +/- buttons are a miserable way to adjust such an analogue function. Adjustment is either too slow (going up/down 1 dB per keypress) or too fast (when you hold the button down and the acceleration function kicks in).
A linear slider or a rotary knob is much better: it allows both fine control, and huge, fast adjustments (without too much overshoot) when needed.
As far as I know, there are only two remotes that get this right: the Philips SRU 9600 [philips.com], and Quad once had a remote like this.
I'm using a Griffin Powermate [griffintechnology.com] to control the volume when watching TV on my computer. It's brilliant.
Re:Pushing conventions has its rewards (Score:3, Informative)
The new apple mighty mouse (which comes with macs) does in fact come with two buttons, and the right one can be enabled my going into the system preferences and telling os x that it's a right click. It's there, so don't complain!
Re:How is the buttonless iphone to use (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Buttons!? (Score:5, Informative)
As for your texting with the phone in your pocket.....I'm not one to question the habits of others but that is a new one on me.
Re:chicken or egg? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Problem is.... (Score:5, Informative)
The iPhone, just like the Mac, has plenty of buttons.
There are just not many hardware buttons. Really. Bear with me...
Compare the number of buttons in MS-DOS (or other CLI) interfaces against those on the Mac. The "menus" of a CLI interfacer are like menus at Chinese restaurant. Except, of course, with a CLI you can't point and say "I want this."
But wait! There's more! A standard Microsoft alert dialog box -- Windows and Mac OS -- typically has a longwinded description of the problem and the same two buttons to respond with: No and Yes. I have an example right here from MS Word for Mac OS X:
The line "Continue with Save" in itself is rather vague; the user must plow through a lengthly bit of prose (for a GUI) to ascertain just what is going to happen. I'm convinced that Microsoft if using FUD to bully the user to always save their documents in Word format. Changing from any other format to Word format never generates a scary warning.
Contrast Microsoft buttons to Mac buttons using TextEdit. Changing an RTF document to text the dialog reads:
The differences are striking:
The meaning of Yes and No are only clear within context. In many, if not most, Microsoft applications, if you choose No, it may not stop, it may go on and do something different. I find most everybody tends to stop and read that lengthly prose to make sure what is going to happen if it's something they haven't done in a while; there's just too much information to gather in at a glance.
"Convert this document to plain text?" Ah, it's going to... well, the answer is in the question.
Buttons? It's not how many that's important, it's how soft and clear they are.
You'd think so... (Score:5, Informative)
Pretty much every interface is a learned interface, but the simpler the interface, the easier it is to learn.
Re:Seemed fast for me--here's why (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Buttons!? (Score:5, Informative)
scientific studies have proven that talking on a phone while driving is dangerous even when completely hands free. even more so than a real life conversation because the lower quality signal requires more concentration to process.
these are scientifically proven facts. I notice that you, on the other hand, only seem to offer the fact that you haven't killed anyone yet as evidence of your super-human brain functions.
Re:Buttons!? (Score:1, Informative)
The iPhone has dedicated buttons for volume and power.... and the send hang up buttons are big and large when you're using those functions that require them.
Re:Yea, We Need More Thinking Like This... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:You'd think so... (Score:3, Informative)
You can actually get a job as a certified [iblce.org] "Lactation Consultant" and there are nursing degrees up to the goddamn Masters level that specialize in this stuff.
But really, I'm just full of it, and these are problems that no one has.
Re:Shortage of buttons makes iPod difficult to use (Score:3, Informative)
And you don't. The default function of the click wheel is to change the volume. No looking necessary. Also, the click wheel offers much better control over the volume setting than +/- buttons would. With the click wheel, I can pretty much instantly set the correct volume for a song, unlike +/- buttons (see my other post [slashdot.org] in this discussion)
Want to select a song and start playing it in a fresh on-the-go playlist and, while it's playing, add more songs to the queue? Navigate down to select the song, up to the root, down to play from the playlist, back up to the root, back down to select your next song.
Why go back to the root between songs? You can just keep selecting songs from any playlist to add to the On-the-Go list.
Re:No, you just don't understand the subject (Score:3, Informative)
As you are clearly speaking from zero experience, and just as clearly, have never breastfed anything, I'm going to treat your Wikipedia knowledge with the contempt it deserves, doubly so, because you didn't even bother to look up the correct article [wikipedia.org]. Read down to the "Conditions that interfere with breastfeeding" section, then have a nice big glass of STFU [sunsite.dk] on me.
I suggest you inform yourself before you talk to an actual girl.
Re:Your link agrees with me (Score:3, Informative)
Even if you have the experience you claim, which I find highly unlikely, the only other possibility is that you're one of those La Leche style breastfeeding nazi's who refuse to accept that there could ever be a problem with breastfeeding...Equally deluded on the other side of the fence.
Re:Buttons!? (Score:3, Informative)
You're in luck. There's a sleep/wake button, a home button, volume up/down buttons, and (in the headset) an answer/hangup switch.
Re:Buttons!? (Score:1, Informative)
I'd like to think this is just WMF fucking with me in a friendly way, or that I'm important enough to have a mod troll stalking me, but the sad truth is that some Mac users are Mac users because they're mentally deficient.