PowerBook Disassembly Guide 226
kwiens writes "We've been slaving away for months to create the FixIt Guide Series-- a set of Free-As-In-Beer step by step PowerBook disassembly instructions. Maybe waiting another 6-18 months for those PowerBook G5's will be easier if you fix your old PowerBook now (or just use the Guides as a starting point for that killer PowerBook case mod). Guides are up now for the PowerBook G3 Wallstreet, Lombard, Pismo and Titanium PowerBook G4 Mercury, Onyx, DVI."
Warranty? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Warranty? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, in many countries/states, you *are* allowed to open/touch your own computer. It won't necessarily void your hardware warranty - you should check up on local laws, which will most likely override any bullshit Apple feed you in their warranty 'agreement'.
For example, I know that in Australia you have a statutory warranty that will NOT be voided by opening up your computer or laptop or indeed installing new parts or removing
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Re:Warranty? (Score:2)
The other day I dropped my laptop and the CD drive quit working. I opened it up, found and fixed one jarred-loose motherboard connection, and now it works fine.
Of course, if it was under warranty, I'd almost certainly have just taken it to my dealer for the fix.
Re:Warranty? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Re:Warranty? (Score:2)
I took apart my wallstreet to fix the faulty power connector on the sound card (it's a common defect, apple's design flaw). My solution to keeping track of the screws was to use my digital camera and take lots of pictures. Usually I'd place the screws beside the laptop in the same relative positions they belong in.
Also, I found This site [powerbooktech.com] very useful as a disassembly guide. The site posted is hardly a great new idea.
Jason
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Re:Warranty? (Score:2, Informative)
Umm... I suspect that if an item is sold as a "sealed unit" item that you would find that warranty is voided if you open the case. It is not uncommon for certain items to be designated CRU (customer replaceable units) - for example in your laser printer, the toner cartridge is a CRU but the fuser assembly probably isn't. Pulling out the fuser and taking it to HP and saying you want it fixed under warranty is probably not going to get you very far.
Laptops are designed to very fine tolerances, even experienc
Re:Warranty? (Score:2)
Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Insightful)
this is obviously geared to those who are out of warranty, and want a possible alternative to expensive out of warranty repairs.
but go ahead and think yourself insightful.
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Re:this is apple's problem in a nutshell (Score:2)
you'd have to *seriously* fvck it up to kill a PC or Mac stone dead (i.e. pop a lot of major components) but the cost of recovery is significantly lower with a pc.
i'm *not* knocking macs as such, just pointing out the pretty obvious point that generic hardware is cheaper.
for this i get modded flamebait.
Re:this is apple's problem in a nutshell (Score:3, Insightful)
You think this will get shut down? (Score:5, Interesting)
What do you think the odds are that this site will have the same kind of problems?
Re:You think this will get shut down? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:You think this will get shut down? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:You think this will get shut down? (Score:2)
Re:You think this will get shut down? (Score:2)
http://www.ramjet.com/iMacFlatRAMInstall.html [ramjet.com]
I didn't really mean 'shut down', I just meant that they had to take down the information about getting to the 'non user-serviceable' slot. Like the earlier revision iMacs, the second SODIMM is on the logic board, buried in the guts of the machine. This page originally explained how to get to the other module, but this information was taken down at apple's request. I'm sure that there is plenty that will be published at this site th
Urm (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Urm (Score:2)
Geez (Score:3, Insightful)
Free as in beer (Score:3, Funny)
The reassembly guide is where they make their profit.
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i always thought... (Score:2)
go down the shop/pub and buy it (at a reasonable cost), or brew it yourself for effectively nothing - pure choice, no monopolies, individual taste/requirements/money decides what you do...
Re:Geez (Score:3, Insightful)
[sarcasm]
Please tell me becasue it *really really really* matters. Oh yes. I was to go modify your comment and redistribute it!! [/sarcasm]
I understand many people have some holy quest, but last I checked this site was "news for nerds" and not "gospels of GNU". Leave the preaching for relevant stories please.
Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:3, Interesting)
That said, what i don't like is novices that "cheapskates" that buy these things, use them, screw up their computer while they are still under warranty, then take them to a service provider (me, others) and then have the units fixed for free - it's no less than fraud - because usually someone that messes their unit up after doing something like this doesn't disclose that information.
I have had many a customer tell me that NO ONE has ever opened their computer (including them) - I open it up and there are screws missing, the magnetic sheild has fingerprints on it, etc etc.
The funniest thing, I saw ALL of this on an iBook a while back. The customer said they hadn't touched it. There was a long blonde hair inside and one of "these manuals" on the hard drive.
Pssst: the customer has along haired blonde.
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:3, Funny)
Pssst: the customer has along haired blonde.
Hey, it was the little blonde computer troll. He has gotten inside my computers too. He comes out when there's sunlight cause that's when i scurry away to hind.
Or Worse (Score:5, Interesting)
Likely much worse when they sell them on Ebay [ebay.com] after messing with them. Obviously not all powerbooks on Ebay have been modded, but some of them might have been. Caveat Emptor.
RTFA SVP (Score:2)
The link is an Ebay search on the keyword powerbook!
1800 items found for powerbook
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:5, Funny)
I've heard and seen just about everything.
Student: "I didn't spill anything on my iBook"
Me: "Oh yeah? What's this sticky shit that smells like a Gin and tonic?"
Then again, the guys that work on the HP/Compaq's have it worse. They've had two or three laptops that have been pissed on. I suspect it has something to do with lower customer satisfaction.
Taking it to extremes (Score:5, Funny)
#$F|||||||||||#@#$SSSDGF
instead of, say 'a'. So I find my girlfriend, who has an innocent look of concern on her face, and I ask her: did you download any strange software yesterday? No. Did you scan your floppy disk? Yes, no viruses. Did anything else weird happen while you were using my computer? No, nothing weird.
Hmmm... so after tapping away in frustration and checking the cables I decide there must be something loose inside the keyboard that is producing crazy input signals every time I press a key. I decide to check it out, so I go and get the trusty phillips head and go over to my computer. I pick up the keyboard, and as I turn it on its side, liquid starts pouring out. Lots of liquid... lots and lots of liquid... in fact, an entire cup of tea pours out all over the desk.
Using my Sherlock Holmes-like powers of deduction, followed by an appropriately Holmesian denoument in which I made my accusations, I discovered the following. She'd knocked her tea over with her hand, and it had fallen neatly and poured directly into the keyboard body. Then, realising how terrible her crime was (it was a nice keyboard), she quietly logged off using the mouse to select Start->Shut Down->Yes, quickly packed up her stuff, and weaseled away into the night without saying a word.
Things I discovered from this incident:
- keyboards are remarkably water-tight
- darjeeling tea with one sugar is very bad for circuit boards and contact-based switches like the ones inside a keyboard
- there is no limit to the optimism and weaseliness of people when they want to get out of trouble
- it will cost you more than the price of a new Logitech keyboard if you call your partner an evil keyboard murdering wench to her face
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Re:Taking it to extremes (Score:2)
Re:Taking it to extremes (Score:2)
It's the caffeine.
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Re:Taking it to extremes (Score:3, Funny)
I'm not so touchy as to break up with someone over such a trivial thing. I just used the broken keyboard to beat her for a while, then drank myself to sleep.
Re:Taking it to extremes (Score:3, Insightful)
If you can't rely on someone to be up front on the small stuff, there's no way you should be trusting them with the big stuff. Like a relationship.
Re:Taking it to extremes (Score:2)
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:4, Insightful)
How can you try to take the high road about your customers, when you are reading the contents of their hard drive? Where are YOUR ethics?
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:2, Informative)
If you have to ask that, then you obviously have never taken any classes on ethics, or really thought about it. It would really do your business (and your customers) a service. Here is a link to reading up on ethics. Creating a Code of Ethics for Your Organization [ethicsweb.ca]
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:2, Insightful)
Getting upset about your tech seeing stuff on your hard drive is like getting upset with your accountant over them seeing your finances.
No, it is more like your tech looking at your finances on your hard drive. Would you be OK with that? Then, what if your tech was looking at your passwords on your hard drive, would you be OK with that?
There was a tech working for a company I used to work for that had no reason to be in our
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:2)
So, some researchers using our bouy in hawaii had one wash ashore on the beach. It didn't work anymore, so they sent it back to
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:2)
If I were not an Apple Authorized technician I would disassemble my stuff in and out of warranty - but I wouldn't ask for warranty coverage if I screwed it up. It WOULD cross my mind, but be a devil on the shoulder, angel on the other scenario. Most people just have a devil on both
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:4, Informative)
So we called Apple, and notified them. they immediately canceled the warranty on the computer's serial number, and we refused to do the repairs.
This doesn't happen very often, but it's happened two or three times in the 5 years I've been working here as an Apple Tech.
Re:Saving money is great - fraud is not. (Score:2)
Interesting, because I bought my Wallstreet brand new, it never had been opened by anyone (including me), until I opened it a few months ago to replace the sound board. There were no missing screws, but there were fingerprints on the shield over the CPU.
I have enough pc and notebook repair experience that I don't
Reassembling a PowerBook tip (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's a tip:
Draw 4 diagrams of the iBook or PowerBook. Make them neat pictures (maybe even use Photoshop.)
Print them out. Places the screws on the places on the picture where they go.
This is what I've done. When I get a PowerBook or iBook in for repair I just print out the four different sides of screw removal:
Outer shell bottom
Outer shell top/display
Inside logic board/magnetic sheild bottom
Inside logic board/ top
You can also draw places where cables go too.
Once you have it on your computer you can print them out again in the future.
get applecare extended warranty (Score:5, Informative)
They don't go wrong often, but when you pick the thing up and carry it round with you everywhere, inevitably some of the laptops develop issues. And portables can be expensive to fix.
It's what, a couple of hundred dollars? Trust me, you'll make that back many times over if a hinge goes, or a screen dies, or whatever...
-- james
Re:get applecare extended warranty (Score:2)
Unless you were lucky enough to buy a G3 iBook in late 2002, in which case you're one of the lucky few to ever get Apple's failure-prone laptops in 10 years. Motherboard failure 6 months ago and now my backlight doesn't come on any more with the lid more than about 30 degrees open. Apple produces nothing but crap as far as I'm concerned. I'm going back to Dell (my 5 year old Inspiron is STILL going strong).
Re:get applecare extended warranty (Score:4, Informative)
Re:get applecare extended warranty (Score:4, Informative)
Unfortunately, they won't fix my 8-month-old TiBook with AppleCare and broken hinges.
The problem is, of course, that it wasn't a "defect" that caused them to break. It was...well, I don't know what it was. I jump up, 'cause I hear a bunch of stuff fall down in the next room, I try to put my computer down on the little table...and my aim is a fraction of an inch off, so it hits on its corner, rather than landing on its base. The screen bends backwards.
It's still a perfectly usable computer, it just needs its screen propped up on something. And to fix it would cost nearly $700.
I'm considering giving it to my fiancee in a few months when we get married, and getting myself a newer AlBook. And being a little more careful with it this time. :-/
So don't forget, AppleCare only covers things that break by themselves. I know, it's the standard way to do warranties, but it's still really annoying.
Dan Aris
Hmmm.. (Score:5, Informative)
That said, I love being an Apple tech.. I get these goodies within a week of the product being released.
Re:Hmmm.. (Score:2)
Is that really how you have to find them? I needed one for my ThinkPad recently and I just downloaded it from ibm.com. Came in handy too. Had to replace my noisy R50 fan with the quiet T41p type.
this is because IBM do it *right* (Score:2)
mind you, they make up for this by blowing goats when you start dealing with IBM Global Services...
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Can't get to the site... (Score:5, Interesting)
Apple's manuals are generally OK if you need to disassemble stuff but their diagnosis flow charts SUCK.
Wow, I actually got a little nostalgic :) two months ago I was up to my elbows in broken Macintosh, now I'm sitting in front of a MDD and flanked by a bunch of PC's in my cushy corporate job :)
Re:Can't get to the site... (Score:4, Informative)
The Apple manual for the same model suggests putting the keyboard/wrist rest area of the laptop flat on a desk (with a towel or similar underneath), with the screen open and extended off the desk into your lap; that strikes me as less likely to get the screen damaged.
wallstree pb g3 (Score:4, Interesting)
G4 Powerbook frustation story -- topper (Score:3, Interesting)
Around the 2 year point, the top third of all the scan lines started to become intermittent. As the weeks went on, intermittent turned into off, and now the middle third started going intermittent. With the thing far out of warranty, knowing full well it'd make more sense to get a new one (vs. get it serviced), I decided to roll the dice and assume it was a (fixable) loose connection somewhere in the screen to the main board...
Weeel
Danke Danke Danke (Score:4, Interesting)
I can't believe it! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I can't believe it! (Score:2)
Right... (Score:2, Informative)
This guide may be ok if you're past the manufacturers warranty and you didn't get an instore one...
But for me, I got a 3yr [practically useless] warranty from Futureshop. I'll let them [or their sub-contractors] fix problems with my laptop.
Though if I had todo it again I would probably a) not buy a laptop and b) not get an extended warranty. It's been nearly 60 days since I dropped of my laptop to have the hard drive replaced.
nearly 9
Re:Right... (Score:2, Informative)
They used to be so good (over the counter, no questions), then 30 day (my Sony DSC-717 is under this warranty) and now the 60 day fix or replace for refurb kit. It's just not worth it. Better save the pennies spent on that and use it for future upgrades.
Good luck with getting the laptop back tho. When my cam broke (flash stopped popping up, they 'fixed' it by breaking the wh
Re:Right... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Right... (Score:4, Interesting)
I called Apple up a couple months later and told them I had to send them my laptop to fix the screen, and it had also (a few times, maybe one time in ten) turned itself off when I unplugged the DVI cable. The next day I got the box. Two weeks later I got a call saying, 'Uh, we don't have your computer yet, are you sure you sent it?' Well, er, actually, I hadn't been able to live without it for long enough to send it in. But it was nice of them to call.
I eventually took a friday and a monday off. On thursday evening at 5:30 I dropped the box off at an Airborne Express location and went home. On monday at 10 AM I got a call from one of my coworkers asking if I wanted to come in and pick up my laptop. So they got it on Friday around noon (according to the tracking number) and sent it back out on Friday sometime later in the day. And not only was the screen flawless, but it has never turned itself off when disconnecting the DVI connector since.
Got to admit, as hard as I am to impress, that impressed me.
-fred
or... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:or... (Score:2)
dear god!!!!!!
Compared to Dell (Score:5, Interesting)
When I bought my current X300, I considered a 12" powerbook as well, but the 3 year warranty period on the Dell made the difference.
OTOH, when the hard disk died the on-site engineer that came to fix it was so clumsy that I had to do some of the taking apart myself (that included finding the howto's on the site).
So, what exactly am I trying to say here..?
Re:Compared to Dell (Score:3, Interesting)
I dunno, but I bought a Dell øaptop from a friend that does Dell service. He thre in a cracked screen spare laptop that "trust me, it'll bee needed", as he said. And sure enough. After one week, the notch that holds the screen to the casing (That thingy that locks the computer) broke. Dell sent a new one in metal, to replace the flimsy platic thing. B fixed it. Soon, the CD drive went, one from spare. The plastic aroud the screen cracked, replace. The key
More disassembly tricks for laptops, PDAs, ... (Score:5, Informative)
-- Keep your mobile running
Re:More disassembly tricks for laptops, PDAs, ... (Score:2)
To those who are ready to jump into dissecting their powerbooks, be sure you are extremely gentile and remove all of the screws..
Similar information for non-Apple products? (Score:3, Interesting)
Two recent examples I have had: a Panasonic VCR, for which I could not find anything at all, and the wiring in a 1990 Mitsubishi, which I did eventually locate on some acid-induced Japanese website.
I'm glad this exists (Score:2)
With the replacement cost being out of my range, I've either got to live with it, fix it myself or find a good lawyer.
Any good lawyers out there?
Re:I'm glad this exists (Score:3, Funny)
With the replacement cost being out of my range, I've either got to live with it, fix it myself or find a good lawyer.
And you think hinges are expensive?
A thought I had (Score:3, Funny)
Apple Service Manuals (Score:2)
Anyone got any good links (other than paying $$$ to become a Apple-certified repair tech?).
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Yes, Yes... that is very nice but (Score:4, Interesting)
He found this method of disassembling the powerbook after a long battle with his failing hardrive, and less than helpful Apple technicians.
Before the disassembly, Cowboyneal was heard to say [cowboyneal.org]:
"I got my PowerBook back today, but it's not nearly as nice as I'd hoped. The technician where I brought it failed to image the drive (like he said he would) before shipping it to Apple so now while the hard drive works perfectly again, I've lost all my files. The point of catching the hard drive failure early before losing any data has now been completely negated. Looking at my PowerBook which is now clean as a slate makes me just want to smash it, knowing the hours of work I've lost." (emphasis mine)
I asked pudge about it and his response was:
"It deserved it"
Re:Yes, Yes... that is very nice but (Score:2)
Re:Yes, Yes... that is very nice but (Score:2)
Works on PC's also.
Where's the information on screws? (Score:5, Funny)
Needless to say, when you feel resistance on a screw and you're not quite sure where it goes, don't keep screwing it in. That goes for laptops and women.
Re:Where's the information on screws? (Score:2)
So whenever you take out a screw or other part, tape it to a note saying where it went and number the notes according to what order you disassembled the parts in. Works for me at least.
Re:Where's the information on screws? (Score:2)
Can you realistically tell the difference between them by sight? Some of the screws in their laptops differ by fractions of millimeters.
The trick I use (and is also mentioned in Apple's training manuals): grab an empty ice cube tray. For each step in disassembly, use a different ice cube slot. While this may not help much for a step that has a lot of screws (eg - taking the top plate off of an iBook), it's certainly better than nothing!
So what? This isn't new at all (Score:2)
I have piles of the old Service Source CDs that have take-apart guides for nearly everything that Apple has ever made.
Nothing new here, move along..
TWO mouse button mod for powerbook? (Score:2, Interesting)
i really like apple's laptops but the single mouse button is the insurmountable barrier to entry. if i could get two mouse buttons a powerbook would be my next machine.
Re:TWO mouse button mod for powerbook? (Score:2)
Re:TWO mouse button mod for powerbook? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:TWO mouse button mod for powerbook? (Score:2)
WATCH OUT! (Score:2, Informative)
NOOOOO!!!! (Score:2, Funny)
How about reassembly? (Score:2, Funny)
Anyone can take something apart. Putting it back together is usually the tough part.
My two cents (Score:5, Informative)
It was interesting to note how many people attributed my laptop's hard drive failure to the fact that it was a Mac. The Powerbook used an IBM Travelstar (or should that be IBM Travesty?) hard drive, which is also very common in PC laptops (as are Toshiba drives). These people just didn't realize that I was toting it back and forth to school every day, and waking it from sleep a LOT daily. Some days I would tote it on the back of my motorcycle, sitting in my backpack without a case of its own (admittedly not a smart thing to do). One day I accidentally dropped it three feet onto hard ground (thankfully while it was off). I can attest that any machine would die given what I put it through. Thankfully, it was just the hard drive, and it was easy to swap out. Otherwise, it's still chugging along, like a double decker bus packed into a sports car body.
Re:Why Disassembly? (Score:2)
Re:what about for ibooks? (Score:3, Informative)
What I used was the iBook Upgrade [geocities.com] website. But be aware that there is a lot of difference between the 12" and 14" versions, so screws are not always on the same location as shown on the pics!
Re:what about for ibooks? (Score:2)
Re:Slashdot Effect (Score:2)
Wish the site didn't get slashdotted so that I could see if they have a good guide of detaching the top half of the shell.