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Apple Releases New Security Update 65

Posted by pudge from the i-am-so-secure-i-feel-nothing-at-all dept.
maradong writes "Apple released a new Security Update today. The 3.7 MB Update fixes problems in CUPS Printing, libxml2, Mail, and OpenSSL."
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  • So far, so good (Score:5, Funny)

    by speechpoet ( 562513 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @07:13PM (#8774543) Homepage Journal
    Having thrown caution to the winds and installed the sucker the moment it appeared in Software Update, I'm pleased to say my G5 hasn't caught fire or gone careening out my 7th-storey window. Yet.
    • You say "yet" as if you're expecting that to happen, or insinuating that it has happened in the past... So, where is this that you live? I could use a G5, even if it has fallen 7 stories to the streets below.

  • no way theres a link between Fairplay and this (Score:4, Informative)

    by Selecter ( 677480 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @07:13PM (#8774551)
    I doubt they have anything to do with each other - the timeframe between events is too short.

    Installed here with no problems on my 1.8 Dual.

  • CUPS of crap (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ickna ( 741290 ) * <[ickna] [at] [ickna.com]> on Monday April 05, 2004 @07:23PM (#8774650) Homepage
    I wonder how "fixed" CUPS is now.. Out of the box, I had a biotch of a time setting up my new G5.. and I work in a print-production shop.. so CUPS and me are buddy-buddy. I had to add about eight printers in "advanced" mode, because we don't /get/ to use appletalk on the network. Kinda makes me miss Chooser..

    • Re:CUPS of crap (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      You know, most PC technicians don't even know how to detect AppleTalk. There's a good chance that you could just turn it on and they'd never know that you'd violated a buzzword. :) AppleTalk really is still the best way to print on a Mac, although Rendezvous is catching up fast.

      Eric in Seattle
      • You know, most PC technicians don't even know how to detect AppleTalk. There's a good chance that you could just turn it on and they'd never know that you'd violated a buzzword. :) AppleTalk really is still the best way to print on a Mac, although Rendezvous is catching up fast.

        Eric in Seattle

        You know, posting your name and location kind of defeats the purpose of being an Anonymous Coward. ; )

      • Re:CUPS of crap (Score:3, Informative)

        by prockcore ( 543967 )
        You know, most PC technicians don't even know how to detect AppleTalk. There's a good chance that you could just turn it on and they'd never know that you'd violated a buzzword.

        Two points.

        One. Appletalk doesn't route on most routers by default, so if you have more than one subnet (and any company should) you're screwed.

        Two. They may not detect AppleTalk but they'd detect the broadcast storms that AppleTalk creates.. and they'd be asking you if you're running some malware since you're spamming the sub
        • Your full of it. I've monitored our network traffice before and after turning appletalk on; only because IP printing was way to erratic. Works on some, not on others. Some can print, but only postscript errors. the traffic does increase slightly, however since everything we run is gigabit, i don't see how this is a problem. there has certainly been no noticable slowdown. TCP/IP printing doesn't use the network as much because it doesn't do anything but print the job. Appletalk will tell you when the printe
          • something i forgot to mention, IP printing work erratic on 10.3 systems. and only with certain printers.

            re-read it, and thought i should clarify IP printing as a whole is fast and stable.. just doesn't work with certain printers with certain macs in certain circumstances i guess.

        • Re: AppleTalk chatter (Score:4, Informative)

          by frankie ( 91710 ) on Tuesday April 06, 2004 @11:36AM (#8780205) Journal
          they'd detect the broadcast storms that AppleTalk creates

          This is often stated as Known Fact, but is it verifiably true? I was under the impression that each AppleTalk device sends a few small broadcast packets every N seconds, which might eat up a 230kbps Localtalk network pretty quickly, but should be negligible on 100Mbps ethernet. Especially since they generally don't cross routers, as you mention.

    • Re:CUPS of crap (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I wonder how "fixed" CUPS is now.. Out of the box, I had a biotch of a time setting up my new G5.. and I work in a print-production shop.. so CUPS and me are buddy-buddy.

      Hey, don't feel bad. CUPS sucks on all platforms. The first thing I have to do on my Linux box is uninstall CUPS and install the regular old lpr print system.

    • Re:CUPS of crap (Score:4, Informative)

      by bjackson ( 576750 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @09:50PM (#8775728)
      a good URL for cups information specific to your machine: http://localhost:631

    • Re:CUPS of crap (Score:3, Informative)

      by seann ( 307009 )
      The only cups update seems to be involving the addition of the option:
      SystemGroup lp,admin
      to the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file.
    • Out of the box, I had a biotch of a time setting up my new G5

      I read that as "I had a biotech of a time" for some reason...

  • Mac OSX based *nix (Score:1, Insightful)

    by kidventus ( 649548 )
    I'm sure the apple website has something. Soo much nicer than d/l rpms on my linux box for OpenSSL and cups. Better load up2date and wait for the package to error out.. when new RPMs are released... *a month from now* I hate Linux, Mac OSX is the best *nix on the planet right now because it has Apple behind it.

  • "optimizing" (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gumbi west ( 610122 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @07:58PM (#8774964) Journal
    Does anybody know what is happening when it says "Optimizing the volume [...]"?
    • Could it be defragging or prebinding?

    • Re:"optimizing" (Score:5, Informative)

      by ubiquitin ( 28396 ) * on Monday April 05, 2004 @08:07PM (#8775063) Homepage Journal
      Yes, after the installers run they typically update prebinding. From the update_prebinding man page:


      update_prebinding tries to synchronize prebinding information for
      libraries and executables when new files are added to a system. Prebind-
      ing information is pre-calculated address information for libraries used
      by a given executable or library. By pre-determining where a function in
      another library is destined to be placed, the dynamic linker does not
      have to resolve symbols at application startup time, and the application
      can launch faster.

    • Re:"optimizing" (Score:5, Informative)

      by tim1724 ( 28482 ) * on Monday April 05, 2004 @08:08PM (#8775072) Homepage Journal
      Does anybody know what is happening when it says "Optimizing the volume [...]"?

      Yep, it's updating the prebinding on applications and frameworks. Prebinding is a performance enhancement in which the addresses of symbols in shared libraries are calculated ahead of time so that the dynamic linker doesn't have to do it every time an application is launched. This can reduce application launch time by 10-30% if the application links against a lot of shared libraries. Whenever a library is changed (such as in an update like this) then the prebinding has to be redone. The Installer automatically does this for you.

      Note that if you install something w/o using Apple's Installer, and the prebinding on a file isn't updated, this is no big deal. When you launch the application, the dynamic linker will notice that the prebinding is wrong and will automatically update the prebinding. The first time you launch the application it will be a little bit slower than normal, but after that the prebinding will be there and improve the launch time.

    • Re:"optimizing" (Score:5, Funny)

      by NaugaHunter ( 639364 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @08:20PM (#8775160)
      Does anybody know what is happening when it says "Optimizing the volume [...]"?

      Yes. Market Research has shown the switchers from Windows PCs don't trust software installations that proceed to quickly. The "Optimizing" loop will steadily decrease for as long as you own the machine to zero, at which point you will compare the time to a Windows machine and assume that Windows has steadily required more and more time and you are even more discouraged from switching back.

    • Re:"optimizing" (Score:4, Informative)

      by nuckin futs ( 574289 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @08:56PM (#8775381)
      yeah. it basically does the command line equivalent of
      sudo upate_prebinding -root. check here [apple.com] for more info.

    • Re:"optimizing" (Score:1, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It's trying to set the volume at the maximum level that won't damage your ears or the speakers themselves. It does this by sending out minute pulses of sound and detecting small disturbances in the microphone input. If the disturbance is crackly, it's the speakers just about to give out. If it's a high-pitched squeal, it's your ears starting to ring. The procedure must vary the volume level of the pulses until it reaches one of these thresholds and then back it off every so slightly.

      It's very important

  • No problems here (Score:5, Funny)

    by davester666 ( 731373 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @08:59PM (#8775405) Journal
    It set my dog on fire and moved me into a trailer park. Other than that, it works great for me on a 17" AlPb...

  • Updates to CUPS (Score:5, Funny)

    by illuminatedwax ( 537131 ) <stdrange@nOsPAm.alumni.uchicago.edu> on Monday April 05, 2004 @09:09PM (#8775467) Journal
    Looks like Apple is finally listening to ESR. Way to take the initiative, Apple!

    --Stephen

  • all systems go (Score:2, Informative)

    by cheerios ( 741510 )
    iMac 700 G4 flat panel combo drive and everything seems fine... reboot even seemed a little faster, but that's probably 'cuz I haven't rebooted in a month. ;)

  • Working fine here.. (Score:5, Informative)

    by ItMustBeEsoteric ( 732632 ) <ryangilbert&gmail,com> on Monday April 05, 2004 @09:49PM (#8775720)
    iBook G3 900MHz

    Also, if you're interested in running that update prebindings command sometime to get a better idea of what it does:

    sudo -u root update_prebinding -verbose -root /
    Password: ********

    And watch it scroll away.

  • G3 450iMacDV - Still Churns and Burns (Score:5, Insightful)

    by eroyce ( 698151 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @11:12PM (#8776268)
    I am amazed after every update that my old iMac still runs like new. I have never had any problems updating, installing, or anything else. How many 1999 windows PC's can claim that every OS update just makes everything better? I'm not trying to provoke a response, I just wanted to share my joy of "it just works". Thanks Apple.

  • Software update: my experience (Score:4, Interesting)

    by BobWeiner ( 83404 ) on Monday April 05, 2004 @11:52PM (#8776503) Homepage Journal
    I applied the software update on my Dual G5 -- things seem to be smooth afterward (well, at least nothing broke...). Now, if there only were a program that would automatically notify and allow me to automatically download updates for my other third-party apps...

  • iBook G4 not so happy -- Finder dead (Score:3, Interesting)

    by bahamat ( 187909 ) on Tuesday April 06, 2004 @01:23AM (#8777014) Homepage
    Maybe useful for someone...I bought a shiny new iBook G4 yesterday, and installed all of the updates. Saw the Airport update and Security update today and installed them.

    Now, the Finder doesn't run on it's own. It has to be manually started from
    /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/M acOS/Finder
    Well, that's that.

    • Suggestions from a Mac afficionado (Score:5, Informative)

      by Slur ( 61510 ) on Tuesday April 06, 2004 @01:49AM (#8777131) Homepage Journal
      Weird. Try "Update Permissions" in Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility. And if that doesn't work get the 10.3.3 Combo Updater from Apple's web site. It installs just fine on top of the 10.3.3 non-combo update. Sometimes a Combo updater is more reliable, since it has all the latest bits. If after all this the system is still funky you can drop back to 10.3.2. I've found 10.3.3 a bit more sketchy than 10.3.2 but the extras are worth the occasional oddity. I just save more often. ;-)
  • I installed on an iMac rev a with a G4 upgrade card and 6MB video upgrade. It wigged out on reboot and sh*t itself all over the screen. I had to pull the plug and reboot. When it came back up everything seems to be working fine. Makes me wonder what happened on the install.

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