Mega Monday Updates

r0d3nt writes "Microsoft has released their promised 10.1.4 update to office. With it comes support for Exchange via Entourage. Get the update , and read about the system requirements." RottenApple writes "The latest iPod EU firmware update has been seen floating on the Gnutella and BitTorrent Networks. A working hack is indicated by the Time Zone appearing as US Pacific after running the updater." An anonymous reader writes "TheLittleAppFactory is pleased to today announce the latest version of our iPod Manager for Mac OS X, iPodRip 1.5, which boasts many new features, such as the ability to play songs right from your iPod's hard drive and playlist support, as well as a slick new interface, faster importing and improved iTunes integration." It costs $7.

iPod

[CptChipJew]

You can already play the songs on your iPod right in iTunes. Just turn auto-syncing off.

Re:iPod

[CptChipJew]

As well, according to some people on VersionTracker [versiontracker.com], this Office update doesn't truly support Exchange:

"like IMAP, SMTP, WebDAV and LDAP - so no real Exchange support! I think it clearly shows how they think about their own standards! And if our Exchange Server 5.5 would [have] them all enabled, then I wouldn't really need Entourage at all!"

Re:iPod

[Alrescha]

"You can already play the songs on your iPod right in iTunes. Just turn auto-syncing off."

You can play songs from the iPod this way if it's on the "home" machine, but not if it's at some other machine.

A.

Re:iPod

[CptChipJew]

Not true. As long as a computer isn't set to automatically sync and iPod (where you manually add files), you can play the songs on any computer.

When I bought my PowerBook, I plugged the iPod in and all the songs were playable.

Re:iPod

[Alrescha]

...learn something new every day...

A.

Re:Is it just me

[gryphokk]

Actually, the Office update is a signif piece of news, at least for those of us who have been trying to migrate to OS X in a corporate environment.

No known Mac mail client can make use of the features of the Exchange server, except a buggy old Outlook that doesn't render html, graphics, or support calendar and scheduling events -- and only runs in classic.

While it's not realy propellorhead stuff, it's a major and much-anticipated upgrade for some of us End Users. And it took /. to let me know it's available, even though I've been sittin on pins & needles for it.

One less application to run in Classic!

Re:Is it just me

[BigBir3d]

No html or graphics in email; reminds me of the good old days. All of our true business related emails are text only, with the occasional attachment. Anything else is just chaff.

Re:Is it just me

[beetle496]

I wish this was one less Classic app (it would be my last). Actually, I kept a PC running just for OutLook because too many people sent HTML only messages and the burden of dealing with classic is no less that of a spare PC just for group email. Without true Exchange support this upgrade is useless for the vast majority of folks using OutLook under. If the Exchange server here supported IMAP and the rest, under X Mail.app iCal.app would be fine.

10.1.4 Office x.X Entourage update issues

[grunherz]

Actually it seems that the new Exchange support for Entourage is pretty weak. Seems LDAP, IMAP et al needs to be turned on on the exchange server for it to work. This was a work around for previous incarnations of Entourage, so it's a pretty lame update.

I'm sure more folks will be able to articulate this better in further posts.

I for one, am totally disheartened by it.

just a heads up.

Re:10.1.4 Office x.X Entourage update issues

[espidre]

I was pretty excited about this update, until I downloaded it, and couldn't connect to my Exchange Server, because there is no way our admins are turning any of that crap on. They gave me the slap down about OWA ages ago. IMAP? Forget it. I think they might have LDAP going, but hell if I can get it to work with Entourage. What's the point of an Exchange update, if it doesn't work with Exchange's protocol of choice MAPI? I think I'll stick to the OSX Mail client/Address book. It's less of a hassle and it syncs with my phone. It'd be nice to sync my work calendar on my palm pilot without conversion gyrations, but its just not working out.

Re:10.1.4 Office x.X Entourage update issues

[Lewisham]

I was disappointed that Entourage still doesn't sync to the Address Book. *sigh* Roll on v.X2...

Re:10.1.4 Office x.X Entourage update issues

[jbx]

What is their problem with IMAP? If they have a clue at all about security, they've probably already got their external firewall configured to ignore IMAP connects, so what the heck is their problem with allowing IMAP inside the company? I bet I could get a signed letter from Microsoft saying it's OK to turn IMAP on, really it is... but would your IS people listen, even then?

Sigh.

jbx

Re:10.1.4 Office x.X Entourage update issues

[espidre]

I don't really think it's a security issue. I think its a support issue. They don't want to support additional clients.

Not that I have a problem with IMAP but I wouldn't trust M$ just because they said so.

Re:iPod Problems

[gryphokk]

I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Mac (a 8600/300 w/64 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg mp3 from one folder on the hard drive to an ipod.

OK, I know we're not supposed to feed the trolls, but --

I'm really curious to know how he connected that 8600 SCSI/Serial PowerPC...

...to a Firewire iPod? For that matter, how do ya play an MP3 on a 604e?

Re:iPod Problems

[Mikey-San]

Yes, it's a generic troll message posted to every Apple story, but MP3s on a 604e isn't hard at all.

MacAmp wasn't TOO terrible, and SoundJam runs in 9. I think Audion does, too.

Those old Power Macs don't make bad MP3/stereo systems if you've an A/V card for it, and they're fairly cheap at thrift stores and the like. (A place up the street from me has a 9600 with a couple of HDs for $150, keyboard and mouse included. Not terrible at all. It's an MP machine, and I think (I THINK) YDL can utilize the extra CPU, so it's definitely worth $150.)

Re:iPod Problems

[saintlupus]

Those old Power Macs don't make bad MP3/stereo systems if you've an A/V card for it, and they're fairly cheap at thrift stores and the like.

They make pretty good television sets, too. [roadflares.org]

--saint

Re:iPod Problems

[beelers]

I play mp3s in iTunes on my 604e-based Power Computing Power Center Pro 210, and it works great. Boot over to YDL and I run xmms, also great.

Are you KIDDING?!?

[MarcQuadra]

Are you kidding? Your box has PCI slots, right? just put an Adaptec FierWire card in there and you're all set (with a modern Mac OS, classic or X). As for playing MP3s, you've got the CPU power to decode at LEAST 15 MP3 streams at once! My 25MHz 68040 Quadra can play an MP3 (though the software player for it has long passed into oblivion), I'm sure your 300MHz machine can.

Most likely your system is in horrible shape, try formatting it and loading Mac OS 9.2.2 from scratch. Drop some more RAM in it (CHEAP!). Turn virtual memory off in the Memory control panel, and boost the disk cache to 16MB. Upgrade to the latest QuickTime Pro and enjoy your nice system!

Re:Are you KIDDING?!?

[gryphokk]

Thanks for the input, guys. Methinks I have underestimated the 604 -- I still have a 601 on an 8100/80, now used by the wife.

Even at that perhaps I gave up to early -- I had been frustrated before on a Quadra 68040, and when I absolutely couldn't get anything to play music on that I decided I was too far obsolete and got a Cube.

How did you play 'em on your Quadra? That was where I absolutely failed.

Nowadays, my wife has discovered she can paint pretty pictures in photoshop on the 8100, and she wou

ahh, the '040

[MarcQuadra]

The software I used on the Quadra was some hacked-together thing that was really a one-off deal. I think it was designed for the sole purpose of proving that an '040 mac could play an MP3. I remember the mouse not really getting more than 2 frames/second when it was playing. I had it briefly but lost track of it. Rumors on the linux-m68k lists also hint that someone wrote one in assembler for the amiga, but it too was only a proof-of-concept.

The '040 was great in it's day though, quite a wonderful series of systems to work with. My 660av is still kicking, I take it out every now-and-then when Debian or NetBSD has a major update. It runs well with Mac OS 8.1 and Photoshop 3.0, which is a wonderful app for simple graphics editing. It also plays SimCity 2000, A10 Attack!, and A-Train as well as it ever has.

I'm thinking of trying to get Gentoo bootstrapped on the thing to see what kind of speed I can get out of it when I compile the whole system for the '040, I bet it'll be cute.

Re:iPod Problems

[Xyde]

You can play an MP3 on a 6100/60 (60MHz 601) at full quality with some cycles to spare, or on a 33 or 40Mhz 68040 at reduced quality.

exchange finally!

[minus_273]

but when will we have pst import and pocket pc synch?

Re:exchange finally!

[RocketScientist]

Don't know about the PST's....but check out http://www.pocketmac.net

Typical Microsoft Mac Update...

[Anonymous Coward]

...long overdue, and not as full-featured as its Windows counterpart. In fact, it's pretty half-assed.

Slow as dirt. No evident support for .PST files. Just sets up an IMAP account for mail and LDAP for the Exchange address list, which is USELESS if you have an IT Deprtment full of Mac-hating tightasses who won't turn on IMAP or anything other than the bare minimum services that Windows PCs need to use Outlook. I think it even needs SMTP turned on to send mail out.

We waited a year for THIS???

*This was posted to MacSlash earlier today, but the anti-Windows vitriol contained within certainly belongs on here.

Mega?

[MalleusEBHC]

Man, pudge, you're killing me smalls. Do us a favor and don't use the headline "Mega Monday Updates" when we are waiting impatiently for the long overdue Powerbook updates. I nearly spilled my soda on my keyboard as I frantically rushed to load apple.com after seeing this headline in my Slashbox.

Re:Mega?

[torpor]

What you mean like hardware Powerbook updates, or some sort of firmware point release?

I'll melt my 19" rack and sell it for slag if it means I can get myself a Rev. B 17" alBook this year, loaded to the gills.

Let them know you're not happy!

[Anonymous Coward]

Go here, [microsoft.com] and submit this or a variant edited to your choosing:

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The Exchange connector, frankly, sucks. You made us wait a year for stinkin' IMAP and LDAP connectivity? SMTP required to send mail? Come on! I service many clients whose internal IT departments would laugh me out of their offices if I requested they turn on SMTP and IMAP on their Exchange server. The Exchange component of Entourage needs to work *exactly* like the Windows version of Outlook, or at least as well as Outlook 2001 for OS 9.x did.

Re:Let them know you're not happy!

[gryphokk]

Done!

I sent the following message to the link you provided:

After waiting for months for your upgrade to Entourage, and its promise to work with Exchange servers, I am very dissappointed to find that it still does not function well in a corporate environment.

The IM&T department at my company tolerates my mac on the network, but provides me no support. Therefore, getting them to enable IMAP and/or SMTP is out of the question.

So far, my only working option remains to operate a PC just to receive pr

Entourage & Exchange connectivity bogus

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, Microsoft really messed up BIG TIME.

Instead of delivering a true replacement to Outlook 2001 for Mac OS X all we got was the same old thing refined.
Just how many Exchange IT people are going to enable SMTP, IMAP and Webmail for Mac users? Why didn't MS make Entourage a true MAPI client like they promised back in February?

Looks like some of us are still stuck with Outlook 2001 running Classic...

Mabe we can convince XIMIAN to port Evolution over to Mac OS X and Quartz.....

Office X Update Problem

[metaltrader]

Installed the update... Word would no longer run... I'm running OS X 10.2.6... All other Office apps were OK... Reinstalling Word did not help... consistently received message "Microsoft Word Unexpectedly Quit"... Tried lots of stuff including deleting Office with Microsoft's Remove Office utility and reinstalling without success... finally removed all Microsoft Office references on my machine and reinstalled Office and 10.1.2 update which restored Word.... A major pain... If you really don't need the 10.1.4 upgrade, you might consider not installing it...

Re:Office X Update Problem

[Anonymous Coward]

This can happen if you are using a "pirated" serial number, as newer versions of the updates apparently contain databases of numbers known to be floating around on the 'net. While I am certainly not saying that you are pirating software, the use of one of these serials might be a possible reason.

Re:Office X Update Problem

[metaltrader]

I purchased my copy of Office X at the Apple store...

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