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Apple to Announce new Mac OS X version in June 507

Posted by CmdrTaco from the sounds-like-a-high-school-sports-team dept.
swiert writes "Apple has announced that the WWDC conference has been rescheduled in order to present the new version of Mac OS X, codenamed "Panther". Unfortunately, Apple haven't given any details about what to expect from Panther, but after Jaguar this looks promising."
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Apple to Announce new Mac OS X version in June

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  • why (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:13PM (#5581033)
    why does this have the amd logo instead of the apple logo? are you letting on more than the article blurb?

  • XI (Score:5, Funny)

    by t_aug ( 649093 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:14PM (#5581041)
    roman numerals seriously are not that hard people X+1=XI

  • WoooHoo (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:16PM (#5581063)
    MR Taco is the /. repost [slashdot.org] king.
    Way to go taco. Noch another one down.

    Love the AMD icon BTW. :P

    • Re:WoooHoo (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It's NOT a repost! this one has the AMD logo... see....

  • Forced Upgrade? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by TedCheshireAcad ( 311748 ) <ted@fUMLAUTc.rit.edu minus punct> on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:17PM (#5581067) Homepage
    I hope this one is a freebie (doubtful), but at least it's not usability-mandatory like the move to Jaguar was. Mac OS X pre-Jaguar was not good enough to be productive, so then Apple releases Jaguar, and everyone shells out $79 (in my case, student discount) for the upgrade to a usable OS.

    I wonder how much they'll suck us for this time.

    • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:5, Informative)

      by red5 ( 51324 ) <gired5@gm a i l.com> on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:20PM (#5581094) Homepage Journal
      Well according to apple the new upgrade system will be one free, one paid. As OS 10, OS 10.1, and 10.2 were.

      • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by cappadocius ( 555740 ) <cappadocius AT v ... squerade DOT com> on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:48AM (#5581477)
        Link please. I had not heard such a statement.

        Considering that a June preview indicates a fall release (remember that Jag had an early summer preview and a fall release) it will have been a year since the last paid release when this comes out. That would seem to indicate this will be a paid release assuming one paid release per year.

        Not that I am saying you are wrong, it is just that I'll believe it when I see it.

        • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:5, Informative)

          by aberkvam ( 109205 ) <<aberkvam> <at> <berque.com>> on Monday March 24, 2003 @04:10AM (#5582086) Homepage
          Business Week [businessweek.com] interviewed Phil Schiller almost a year ago. His comments [businessweek.com] are rather interesting and point to Panther being a paid upgrade. Here's the relevant part of the interview:
          Q: People are asking why you're charging so much for Jaguar, the new OS X update.
          A: We came out with OS X 10.0 in May, 2001, at $129. That's our usual price for paid upgrades. Last fall, we came out with 10.1 Normally, we would decide to charge $129, but because we wanted to help the adoption of OS X, we made it free to our customers. Now, with 10.2, it's $129 again, same as it always has been. I think a year and a half before charging for an upgrade is very reasonable. And we included 150 new features in Jaguar. That's a lot for your money.

          Q: But people are conditioned to big Mac releases coming out every three years or so, no?
          A: Actually, that's not true. If you follow the path over the last five years, there has been a major paid release approximately once a year, and a minor release that we didn't charge for on a half-year increment.

      • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:5, Informative)

        by aberkvam ( 109205 ) <<aberkvam> <at> <berque.com>> on Monday March 24, 2003 @03:56AM (#5582051) Homepage
        Well according to apple the new upgrade system will be one free, one paid. As OS 10, OS 10.1, and 10.2 were.
        Actually, Apple has been alternating the paid/free versions of its OS for quite some time now.

        7.5 - Paid
        7.6 - Paid
        8.0 - Paid
        8.1 - Free
        8.5 - Paid
        8.6 - Free
        9.0 - Paid
        9.1 - Free
        9.2 - Free
        10.0 - Paid
        10.1 - Free
        10.2 - Paid

        It hasn't always been an exact alternating of paid and free updates, but it's been pretty close for a long time. So if you want to go by history, the next update will be free.

        On the other hand, I think the really telling bit of information would be Apple's financials after the Jaguar release. If the money gained from charging $129 for an OS update had a significant positive effect on Apple's bottom line, I would think that Apple would be looking long and hard at charging for Panther.

        One thing that has always puzzled me. Why didn't they just call it OS X 10.5 instead of OS X 10.2. People complained because it was just a .1 update, which Apple has rarely charged for. I think simply calling it 10.5 would have placated a lot of people.

        • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:4, Informative)

          by MarcQuadra ( 129430 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @06:36AM (#5582340)
          Apple generally charges for feature updates and not for bug fixes. Sometimes there's a little bit of both, but 9.2 was just 9.0 with some bug fixes and very minor revisions. 7.6 was just all the crap that had accumulated from 7.5 and back rolled into a more monolithic system, but they added a new networking core which was major enough to charge for it.

          • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:3, Informative)

            by aberkvam ( 109205 )
            New network core? Not really. Actually, your description of "crap... rolled into a more monolithic system" and "a new networking core" is a good description of System 7.5.3.

            System 7.5 had a ton of different enablers and patches through 7.5.2. (Supporting all the Mac clones coming out at that time only added to the confusion.) And PCI PowerMacs had recently come out, which the old networking core didn't support at all. So Apple rushed Open Transport (their new networking core) out for these new Macs.

        • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Mikey-San ( 582838 )
          You're ignoring what Schiller said. Your logic was that they're sorta alternating.

          But look at the release dates of the major Mac OS releases (working backwards):

          10.2 - 2002 - Paid
          10.0 - 2001 - Paid
          There was no major OS release in 2000, save for the OS X Public Beta, free except for $20 shipping.
          Mac OS 9 - 1999 - Paid
          Mac OS 8.5 - 1998 - Paid
          Mac OS 8 - 1997 - Paid
          Mac OS 7.6 - 1996 - Paid
          Mac OS 7.5 - 1995 - Paid

          At least, I /think/ that's how it went. At any rate, do you see a rough pattern here? Apple have

        • Re:Forced Upgrade? (Score:3, Insightful)

          by mattkime ( 8466 )
          Your list is accurate if you go according to what apple put in a box and sold. but if you go by what apple made people pay for, it goes more like this...

          6.0 - Paid (1988)
          7.0 - Paid (1991)
          7.1 - free
          7.5 - free (1995)
          7.6 - free
          8.0 - Paid (1997)
          8.1 - free
          8.5 - free
          8.6 - free
          9.0 - Paid (1999)
          9.1 - free
          9.2 - free
          10.0 - Paid (2001)
          10.1 - free
          10.2 - Paid (2002)

          Apple _has_ made the decision to start using its operating system as a source of revenue, rather than something solely to support their hardware sales. I d
    • Why is it that there is always a few vocal whiners ready to spout off every time Apple wants to sell an OS upgrade? What is it that's so hard to understand about the idea that they sell software?

      Apple's OS development cycle involves one paid rev per year and one or more incrimental upgrades that are free. It's really not that hard to get. And nobody is forcing you to buy it, either.

      Jesus, there's plenty of legitimate reasons to knock a wierd company like Apple. Try to bring up one of them next time yo

      • Re:What?? Apple SELLS software?? (Score:5, Funny)

        by cymen ( 8178 ) <[moc.liamg] [ta] [givnemyc]> on Monday March 24, 2003 @01:37AM (#5581611) Homepage
        No no no no no... See, this is /. and we <em>*HAVE*<em /> to have the latest release just like we have to have food to live. It isn't an option. So when the parent poster says (s)he is forced to buy it then one can safely so that it is true, Apple is extorting money from this geek! This is an international crime to force the geek to pay for the upgrade. We should invade One Infinite Loop and liberate the OS.

        The time is now to drop your jolt cola, fire up your major comipile jobs, lock up your computer room, don your smelliest sweat soaked t-shirt (hint, the one you're wearing right now), and go forth to meet at Zero Infinite Loop. We will attack at dawn (*).

        * bring extra sweat soaked shirts for use as biological weapons against the door guards
        <sarcasm />
      • Why is it that there is always a few vocal whiners ready to spout off every time Apple wants to sell an OS upgrade?

        1.) Apple users often claim that Apple is just a hardware company. According to them, the software is just a way to sell the hardware and that's why the hardware is so expensive.

        When people ask why an update costs money, they are refering to Apple software beeing a "bonus" to the hardware.

        2.) Microsoft (yeah, flame me) does still provide free updates for Win2k. Microsoft provides free updat

  • The real question (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jyg1234 ( 309917 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:17PM (#5581072)
    The real question isn't "why does this article have an AMD logo". The real question is "why do people post a question when it has already been posted by others?"

    • no no you see (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:39PM (#5581206)
      The real question is "why do people post a question when it has already been posted by others?"

    • Re:The real question (Score:4, Offtopic)

      by 1u3hr ( 530656 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @01:35AM (#5581605)
      The real question is "why do people post a question when it has already been posted by others?"

      Because if only one person pointed out that the post is either a dupe, or has the wrong logo (this has both, along with grammatical errors), then Taco et al can say "Of the x million readers only ONE cares". As it is, now though they still try to laugh off their mistakes and carelessness as irrelevant, they can't say that no one cares. Eventually they might get annoyed or embarrassed enough from people bitching that they implement any of the simple systems that would detect most dupes or spelling mistakes. Forcing them to select the correct logo might be harder, evidently.

  • Panther? I don't know but... (Score:5, Funny)

    by JoeShmoe ( 90109 ) <askjoeshmoe@hotmail.com> on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:17PM (#5581077)
    ...if it's not "Pink" then I will be very disappointed!

    You have diamond theme, and your screensaver could feature the bulmbing antics of Inspector "Meecroseeeft" as he tries to do the same tasks the Pink Panther so suavely and easily performs.

    - JoeShmoe
    .

  • pre-release advertisement and hype (Score:3, Interesting)

    by stonebeat.org ( 562495 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:18PM (#5581079) Homepage
    I hope apple does a better job in creating the pre-release hype. i have been hearing about panther here and there, but apple needs to have a whole campaign, like MS did for XP.
    • for a minor number revision!

      "announcing windows XP SP5, the 'must buy' of the computing year!"

      yeah... ok... whatever.
  • Many people were wondering at the choice of Jaguar and Panther for the latest Mac OS X names. Wanting to get to the bottom of this I asked the Apple heads, and this is what they told me:

    "Well, we did want to name it yellow-tailed marmoset at first, but figured it was a little wimpy and obscure. Bitch was suggested too, until we remembered Microsoft had already taken that (albeit in their case it was the name they bestowed on users of Windows). What else choice did we have? Like an OS called Poodle would sell any copies..."

    And there you have it!

  • one thing it will have (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jbellis ( 142590 ) <jonathan@carDEBI ... com minus distro> on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:21PM (#5581104) Homepage
    is jdk 1.4.1 (currently available from apple's software update). this is BIG to java developers -- I had one friend sell his powerbook 6 months ago b/c he got tired of it coming out "any day now." But it's not vapor anymore, finally.
    • It was already released via Software Update. See here [apple.com]. And I think it wasn't finished when they released it - it broke some applications HUGELY. Here is a wonderful description of my favorite known issue from the Release notes: [apple.com]

      Radar #3160445

      Apparent random crashes of Java applications.

      Some applications that use Java2D can crash unexpectedly with a crash log that specifies a failure in Java_apple_awt_CRenderer. This is a known issue and is being investigated.

      Workaround: None.

  • So now Slashdot is an Apple rumor site? The AMD graphic doesn't bode well for Apple adoption of IBM's PowerPC 970.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:25PM (#5581129)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • Would... (Score:5, Funny)

    by secondsun ( 195377 ) <secondsun@gmail.com> on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:25PM (#5581130) Journal
    ...this be like comparing Apples to Athlons?

    Ba du dum.
  • The nice spotted X logo will become all black :D

    (at least I am sure how MSFT would update it - change how it looks ;))

  • Well (Score:5, Funny)

    by Kirby-meister ( 574952 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:29PM (#5581150)
    It's a good thing slashdot never posts anything that may cause sensational rumors and misinformation :P

  • 10.3 features (from loop rumors.com) (Score:5, Informative)

    by Znonymous Coward ( 615009 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:32PM (#5581165) Journal
    System-wide metal interface

    Support for 64-Bit architecture

    QuickTime 6.5

    iChat 2.0 with videoconferencing capabilities

    Final Safari release 1.0 GM

    Updated iApps (possible inclusion of iWorks?)

    Enhanced Dock features

    Overall system speed enhancements

    Optimized for the new systems (AMD, Itanium or PPC970??)

    • Re:10.3 features (from loop rumors.com) (Score:5, Insightful)

      by kimota ( 136493 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:53AM (#5581486)
      System-wide metal interface
      I hope not; it has more enemies than Aqua has had, and would represent an awfully rapid departure from Aqua, which Apple clearly used to love.

      Support for 64-Bit architecture
      This would be nice; it's truly OS-related and is likely to happen sooner or later.

      QuickTime 6.5
      Apple has historically shipped QT as its own product (and clearly as its own source of revenue). It might get rolled up with the shipping version of 10.3, but it won't be a major feature since you'll almost certainly be able to get it elsewhere.

      iChat 2.0 with videoconferencing capabilities
      Granted, OS X as a whole is still a new beastie, so Lord only knows the directions in which Apple will go, but I have a hard time believing that Apple will expect us to drop $120 or so for a bunch of updated applications (particularly when they could potentially sell a suite of updates as its own product a la iLife). Again, this might ship with 10.3. It might even be only supported under 10.3, but is not compelling enough to make 10.3 necessary. Still, H.323 support (or support for whatever its heir apparent is) within the OS is SORELY lacking, according to my videoconferencing friends, so I know they'll gleefully welcome this.

      Final Safari release 1.0 GM
      Same as above, but I really think this will probably be available as a standalone, free download.

      Updated iApps (possible inclusion of iWorks?)
      You should be able to anticipate my answer here. iWorks would change things, but I bet if it ends up really happening, it will be like Keynote, a standalone product. Or maybe I should have likened it to AppleWorks....

      Enhanced Dock features
      Again, not compelling.

      Overall system speed enhancements
      Something to be excited about, enough for some people to finally make the jump, but not enough on its own. Remember, since adoption of OS X has been pretty high, 10.3 has to appeal at least as much to people who are already running OS X as it does to people who have not upgraded from 9 or lower-- and also to people running Windows.

      Optimized for the new systems (AMD, Itanium or PPC970??)
      This would present a pretty radical departure and is one sort of exciting "event" that I have to assume Apple have plenty of with 10.3, but again, isn't compelling to people already owning Macs or already running Mac OS X 10.2.

      I have to expect, simply from paying attention to the past:

      1. several "new" GUI changes, perhaps re-inclusion of OS 7-9 features, such as labels, some maybe from other OSes, some we haven't seen before.

      2. some application or GUI features the likes of which just about no one has anticipated. Just like Jack Kirby [twomorrows.com] did, Apple is always forcing you to expect the unexpected.

      --Kimota!

      • Re:10.3 features (from loop rumors.com) (Score:5, Informative)

        by sheriff_p ( 138609 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @07:03AM (#5582375)
        Still, H.323 support (or support for whatever its heir apparent is) within the OS is SORELY lacking, according to my videoconferencing friends, so I know they'll gleefully welcome this.

        Yahoo Messenger for Mac OS X provides video-conferencing, and fairly well too - it works over NAT too, which is something I believe H.323 doesn't natively support.

        So far, it's the only decent system I've found. It's free, it's cross-platform, and I like it a lot :-)

  • Sshh..... (Score:5, Funny)

    by miketang16 ( 585602 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:38PM (#5581198) Journal
    The AMD logo is CmdrTaco's subtle hint.....

  • AMD logo? (Score:3, Funny)

    by blitzoid ( 618964 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:40PM (#5581211) Homepage
    To jump on the 'Har har you didn't select the right logo from the list' bandwagon: Well, congratulations to AMD! I knew all their hard work on OSX would pay off!

  • The REAL reason (Score:5, Interesting)

    by cravey ( 414235 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:40PM (#5581213)
    Apple has said that they are moving WWDC (the Apple Developer conference) to coincide with Macworld in June. here [apple.com]

    They are doing this because they want the developers to have access to "new features" that won't be ready until then. There are also reports like this [envestco2.com] that indicate that Apple is about to release a new architecture based on the PowerPC 64 bit G5 processor.

    It takes an important reason to reschedule a convention the size of WWDC. I believe that the move is an effort to keep details of the new G5 machines secret from everyone INCLUDING developers until the product announcement.

    If the bids for the motherboards are due any day, then the release of the G5 boards could easily be made in June with production release soon after.

    If you think Apple is REALLY switching to iX86 technology, I've got a small country to sell you.

  • Paying for bug fixes (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Hythlodaeus ( 411441 ) on Sunday March 23, 2003 @11:49PM (#5581253)
    Last time around, Apple forced people to pay for 10.2 to fix the broken parts of 10.1 (most notably OpenGL.) Let's hope they don't ransom the bug fixes again with 10.3

  • Pather = Jaguar (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I think a Panther IS a Jaguar. Does this mean nothing is really different? same old s*t, different, day?
    Puma, Mountain Lion, TomAYto, TomAto.

    • Re:Pather = Jaguar (Score:5, Informative)

      by cosmo7 ( 325616 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:31AM (#5581412) Homepage
      Panthers are black (melanistic) leopards. the gene for melanism is recessive, so black leopards can have offspring with lighter coats. Jaguars are heavier than panthers. The panther has a narrower and smaller head. Genetically, leopards and jaguars are more closely related than lions or tigers. Snow leopards and Clouded leopards are even more distantly related, at one clade each.
  • I hope Apple continues to support the older OS X versions.

  • Has Anyone Noticed... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Shuh ( 13578 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:04AM (#5581318) Journal
    This "news" doesn't have a link, and all it says is that Apple has a product it doesn't have any details on? This is the ULTIMATE non-story... even compared to the Dvorak-Apple-Is-Going-To-Itanium non-starter...

  • 100% Content-Free (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Michael_Burton ( 608237 ) <michaelburton@brainrow.com> on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:06AM (#5581330) Homepage

    Unfortunately, this story is 100% content-free. There aren't even any good rumors about Panther. I can think of only two explanations for this: either Panther is going to be remarkably free of anything new and interesting, or Panther is going to be so amazingly ultra-mind-bogglingly spectacular that Apple relocated the development team to some secret Iraqi WMD labs to protect the secrecy of the project.

    If 10.3 is as big a step forward as 10.1 and 10.2 were, I will be glad to pay for it. Heck, I'll be thrilled to pay for it!

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:39AM (#5581435)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • "iWorks", if more than just a rumor, would probably consist of 1. a word processing app (TextEdit isn't truly powerful - what about initials and footnotes?), 2. (possibly) a publishing app (even if it's just for greeting cards and nasty boss letters), 3. a spreadsheet app, 4. a simple database app (most likely based on a FileMaker backend) and 5. a presentation app (Keynote, of course)

      iLife was just released. iTunes will be upgraded (it's the oldest of the four, right now) soon, though.

      There won't be that much benefit from a Cocoa rewrite. If you want a Cocoa Finder, give PathFinder a try; my experience with that one is that it has a few nice features, but is often way too slow (which reminds me of most other Cocoa apps, unfortunately).

      New version of Safari? 1.0 isn't even out yet. Surely the 10.3 release will be the latest date they can offer the final; otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to me.

      Video conferencing in iChat is quite likely - check its bundle for some unused icons ;-)

      Multiple Customizable Docks - I doubt this. I hope they come up with a way to make the Dock a lot more useful, or, at least, fully replacable by third parties.

      Now let's come to the less likely things:

      - Metadata (Database FS)

      As you said, they hired BeOS's file system engineer, who supposedly implemented journaling in HFS+. It would be very nice if he helped work on a metadata implementation.

      My idea of it would be to work similarly as iTunes' Smart Playlists do, but even more transparently. Per default, the Metadata Finder won't show you the hierarchical file structure, but the semantical one. There could be such a topic as "downloads", which would show your recent downloads. It would consist of sections like "music" and "shareware". Each download would have information like "downloaded at" and "downloaded from" attached to it.

      More interesting would be a topic like "e-mail", split up between your various e-mail folders. It would provide information like "date received", "subject", etc. Opening an e-mail letter would launch Mail.app with that specifict mail, of course. BeOS actually could do such a thing already, and that was half a decade ago.

      Another topic is Aqua2: a resolution-independent approach. The Dock shows the benefit of (almost) perfectly resizable icons: No matter how good or bad your eyes are, you'll always be able to have the icons in your optimum size. But what about the rest of the GUI? Any of the text labels are already resizable, in theory. They're vector-based. Widgets, aren't, though.

      I think one of the plans of Apple is to wait until we have very-high-resolution displays (closer to 300 dpi, instead of the currently typical 96 dpi) and then automatically scale any object on the GUI to fit best.

      Rendezvous: I really hope Apple will offer a Rendezvous implementation for Windows. Some parts of it are there, already, but I have yet to see a working implementation example.

    • Re:Various rumors and speculations (Score:4, Informative)

      by jonr ( 1130 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @08:58AM (#5582617) Homepage Journal
      For those don't know, Dominic Giampaulo was the brain behind BeOS BFS. If Apple has Dominic, expect to see some really great stuff.
      J.

  • Pronunciation (Score:5, Funny)

    by DavidLeblond ( 267211 ) <me&davidleblond,com> on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:47AM (#5581474) Homepage
    How does Steve pronounce Panther? "Panth-ire"?

  • What's with the Atari game system names? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 24, 2003 @12:59AM (#5581507)
    How come Apple keeps on assigning code names for their OS X versions that were former names of Atari game systems?

    First they named the last version of OS X "Jaguar." Jaguar also was the last console game system made by Atari Corporation. The ill-fated "64-bit" (flame on!) game system...

    Now they are naming their next version of OS X "Panther." Panther was also the name of the unproduced 32-bit game system Atari had under development until they cancelled it in favor of throwing all their development resources behind the Jaguar.

    Seems kinda backwards if you ask me. Perhaps the previous version of OS X should've been named "Panther," since it was 32-bit based, and then saved the name "Jaguar" for the version of OS X set to support the Power PC 970 chip...thereby being a more appropriate 64 bit reference... But then again, Apple has to "think different"...

    So, will we see a PalmOS based Apple PDA codenamed the "Lynx"? :)

    - The Lynxpro
    (forgot my password)

    *anyone know how many former Atari Corp. (and Flare Ltd.) employees now work for Apple?

  • Apple goes into some details here (Score:3, Informative)

    by azav ( 469988 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @01:02AM (#5581515) Homepage Journal
    http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/descriptions.html

    Apple goes into some details about what will be in the next major rev of the OS.

    Cheers,

  • AMD tie in (Score:5, Interesting)

    by be-fan ( 61476 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @01:29AM (#5581586)
    This says [looprumors.com]that AMD might make (manufacture) PowerPC chips. So maybe CmdrTaco isn't asleep after all.

  • The metal interface isn't that bad.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SensitiveMale ( 155605 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @01:49AM (#5581654)
    I'm running a theme that gives the metal interface to everything.

    Not too shabby.

    http://homepage.mac.com/max_08/themes.htm

  • safari everywhere (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BortQ ( 468164 ) on Monday March 24, 2003 @03:20AM (#5581963) Homepage Journal
    Like a lot of people have speculated, I expect that Safari 1.0 will be part of 10.3. However I think the bigger improvement will be in the release of WebCore along with integrated apps. A fast HTML renderer that is available to all apps will be quite useful. Not to mention that it would better the performance of any apple app that displays HTML, like Mail, Sherlock, Help Viewer (please!!!), Project Builder, etc ...

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