Mac OS X 10.2.x Disables Modifier Keys? 50
drunkToaster writes " Adobe's support pages note that Mac OS X 10.2.x fails to re-enable modifier keys after an authentication session. The keys are disabled during the user/password dance as a security measure. Adobe explains a workaround for the problem which drastically effects many of its applications (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc)." This makes no sense to me; I authenticate to various servers etc. all day long, and never have problems with modifier keys. The Adobe explanation seems wholly inadequate.
GetCurrentModifierKeys() (Score:5, Insightful)
The proper way to do it is call GetCurrentModifierKeys(), as GetKeys() is one of the bits of rot that didn't get dropped when Apple moved to OS X.
Re:GetCurrentModifierKeys() (Score:3, Interesting)
When did Apple acknowledge this bug?
They're on crack (Score:5, Interesting)
(emphasis mine)
If the password dialog caused the shift key to be disabled, how the heck am I able to log in with my mixed-case password, huh? I use my Mac OS X constantly and I've never run into any problem that looks remotely like this. They're on crack.
Re:They're on crack (Score:5, Insightful)
It sounds like a reasonable precaution.
They just forgot to re-enable an semi-deprecated function for getting modifier keys afterwards. Sounds like a fairly minor bug, and I'm sure it'll be fixed in the next point release now that it's gotten coverage on
Re:They're on crack (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:They're on crack (Score:3, Informative)
I use my Mac OS X constantly and I've never run into any problem that looks remotely like this. They're on crack.
In defense of the howling crackheads -- erm, Adobe -- this bug has been a verifiable and hugely annoying problem among my agency's art directors for a while now. The option and shift keys -- used in Illustrator for drag-copying and constraining to angles, respectively -- would stop responding at random times, requiring a full log out to clear things up again. (Judging from the technote, the fact that we often need to access SMB servers during the day might have something to do with it.)
Frustrating in the middle of a deadline push, to say the least...
Re:They're on crack (Score:1, Offtopic)
Just wondering... what kind of servers do you access during the night?
Re:They're on crack (Score:2)
I use capslock personally...
Re:Effect or Affect? (Score:2, Funny)
Happened to me yesterday (Score:3, Informative)
updates to get things current, I had to authenticate several times. I've got
some punctuation in my password and suddenly it was rejecting my pass.
I thought it was a hardware problem with the keyboard. I finally figured out
what happened, rebooted, and things started working ok again.
Ah, so SMB is to blame (Score:5, Informative)
And for those of you questioning the validity of this issue . . as realgone mentioned, option and shift are vital to successful use of Adobe design products. Option allows you to de-select items and subtract from the currently selected pixel area while shift allows you to select additional items and and additional pixels. Also option is used to define the cloned area for the cloning stamp.
Re:Ah, so SMB is to blame (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Ah, so SMB is to blame (Score:1)
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Re:Wrong OS! (Score:1)
Take your two button mouse. Set the second button to do... say... shift+click. Set the third button to do... option+click. Now, try using a contextual menu in Illustrator.
'But wait... you could assign both the left and right buttons, when clicked at the same time, to pull the contextual menu,' you say.
Yeah, that's convenient. But hey, at least it keeps your other hand free for spanking the monkey while you make graphics for your so-called 'Warez' site.
FileMaker, Stupid Solutions and the number 42 (Score:4, Informative)
The solution Adobe gives is a _bad_ workaround. I really don't like leaving my machine completely open to the world by turning off the screensaver password. They should have to know more than the average script kiddie to break into my machine.
Re:FileMaker, Stupid Solutions and the number 42 (Score:1)
I followed their instructions to the letter, and found that my settings were ALREADY how the document described. So no luck.
Has anyone actually had this problem _go away_?
Especially after following Adobe's instructions?
FileMaker in Classic dragging bug (Score:1)
I wish Apple or FileMaker would fix this bug! FileMaker Inc is a subsidiary of Apple, so there can be no finger-pointing excuses. Fix this!
Oh, I get the "you have no modifier keys anymore, ha ha" bug in FileMaker 6.0v4 for OS X, as well. Restarting the application does not fix this issue. I'd like to see FileMaker work on building OS X products that don't have major interface issues. How about when you try to see what related fields a sort is based on, but the column is too narrow to see the whole field? Just resize the window, right? Nope! We're still stuck with non-resizable dialog boxes all over the place!
FMI, please get your act together! You have a great lead in the easy database development arena, but these flaws are wearing away at your edge in convenience.
Re:FileMaker, Stupid Solutions and the number 42 (Score:2)
huh? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Try a little lemon juice, I hear it can be very helpful with stubborn stains. Otherwise, you might want to start using a bib.
Yup, I deal with this every day. (Score:1)
Lord knows.
I can't IMAGINE how Apple could leave this unfixed. Makes no sense.
Re:Yup, I deal with this every day. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Yup, I deal with this every day. (Score:2)
Wow. (Score:1)
To whomever caught it, good catch!
Adobe and modifier keys.... (Score:2, Offtopic)
Re:Adobe and modifier keys.... (Score:1)
For you, the solution may be to change the shortcut key. You can do this by choosing "Edit" --> "Keyboard Shortcuts" and then choosing "Menu Commands" in the popup menu that, by default, is labeled "Tools" (Rather, the "Tools" menu item is chosen by default.) You'll find that under the section titled "View" (turn down the arrow next to it by clicking) there's an item for "Show/Hide Edges." If you click on the actual text indicated as a shortcut you can enter a new key combo. Hit "OK" and resume your work in a frustration-free manner.
I know you probably could've used a much simpler explaination but there are many who would've asked questions or may not have been able to completely understand how to find what I was talking about. Besides, when my students ask this question now I can point them here and be done with it. [Kidding!]
Re:Adobe and modifier keys.... (Score:1)
It's annoying that they conflict but since designers like me live in Photoshop for a large portion of a days work keyboard shortcuts are ingrained.
There is a preference option to change the behavour. However once I'd changed this I still had problems, I'd expect control+h to read my mind and know what I wanted it to do since I'd still attempt to use if for both functions
I've noticed this. (Score:1, Informative)
There is a game called Deimos Rising bundled that uses modifier keys. When it stopped working moving from 10.2.3 to 10.2.4 I was damn angry, even if I never play it.
My photoshop is also effected. I can use commands like cmd-q, but I can't do things like hold the option to change my lasso type!
About time someone releases a knowledgebase. I'm dissapointed that it wasn't Apple however. There must be lots of apps effected.
I think it depends on the machine... (Score:2)
So what's the deal? I tried recreating the conditions in the Adobe article by doing exactly the opposite of their instructions. No problem here. I have logged out, back in, and have all 3 programs running...I'm using modifying keys all over the place! Wait a minute...let's reboot the machine and see...just a second...Oh yeah! I'm modifying, baby!
Maybe somebody out there enabled the root user, screwed up their permissions, and then complained to Adobe about it.
This IS a problem (Score:2)
It doesn't affect too many people, and happens very rarely, but now and then I find that holding down shift in Photoshop does NOT cause a pen to draw in a straight line as it should. It's as if I have not pressed the key at all.
The only way out afaik is to reboot.
Becasue I have had extreme difficulty in reproducing the bug on command I can uderstand how this has taken a long time to get noticed properly.
-Nex
This problem has been around since 10.1.2 (Score:1)