April 2002 Mac OS X Dev Tools Released

destructo666 writes "April 2002 Developer Tools now available to ADC online members. Membership is required, but it is free. This release includes a GM AppleScript Studio 1.1, plus beta versions of Project Builder 2.0 and gcc-3 Compiler." Must. Go. Play.

Damn....

[Ranger Rick]

...and here I was thinking "wow, that was a short beta period!", but it turns out these are still the BETA april developer tools.

Re:Damn....

[h0tblack]

While you may say "still", some of us have only just been able to get our hands on them, not having the resources to pay for Select or Premier membership. This is the first time the tools have been made available to us non-payed-up developers (this includes students, as they don't receive software-seeds).
The tools included code based on gcc 3.1 which is itself still in testing and hasn't been released as 'final'. GCC3 is not the only major jump tho, ProjectBuilder has had a pretty major overhaul.
I'm sure the tools will be out of Beta soon, WWDC 2002 is next week, and in for what it's worth the tools are pretty stable as they are, not perfect but pretty good. Apple have been using the new version of ProjectBuilder internally for a lot of things and if you checkout any recent additions to the Darwin opensource repository you'll see this for yourself :)

Re:Damn....

[Ranger Rick]

I didn't either... I got them off ADC just like everyone else... It's just that I saw the beta tools announced just last week, and I thought it was a bit crazy to be announcing the final version shortly after. =)

Re:Damn....

[h0tblack]

yeh, it would have been a case of taking "Think different" a bit far ;)

My experiences with gcc3

[Jeremy Erwin]

(desperately trying to compile Opendx)

_autocolor.c: In function `_dxfMakeRGBColorMap':
_autocolor.c:2606: unrecognizable insn:
(insn 4390 4389 4391 (set (reg:DF 1164)
(if_then_else:DF (ge (reg:DF 1163)
(const_double:DF 0 [0x0] 0 [0x0] 0 [0x0] 0 [0x0] 0 [0x0]))
(reg/v:SF 173)
(reg:SF 1162))) -1 (insn_list 1800 (insn_list 4388 (insn_list 4389 (nil))))
(expr_list:REG_DEAD (reg/v:SF 173)
(expr_list:REG_DEAD (reg:SF 1162)
(nil))))
_autocolor.c:2606: Internal compiler error in extract_insn, at recog.c:2129

It's not quite "ready for prime time".

Re:My experiences with gcc3

[norwoodites]

send a bug report to apple or gcc, depending on what version you are using, apple's or fsf's.
Better yet test fsf's for Darwin, and then send a bug report into apple and gcc.

Re:My experiences with gcc3

[Lord Kenja]

As the release notes state the gcc3 is expermiental and not for production usage.

Re:My experiences with gcc3 (and openDX)

[Mendenhall]

I know this is slightly OT, but I have got openDX running quite robustly on OSX10.1.4 with the December 2001 developer tools. It took very minor hacking of one makefile plus a few switches. I am preparing to compile a clean binary and post it somewhere in the next few days (if I have time)

What the article fails to mention...

[zachlipton]

Yes the April dev tools are availble to all free ADC online members, but not those under 18. Apple has updated their ADC license agreement with a "you must be over 18" thing added in. I'm still waiting for Apple to take away my ADC account as a 14-year-old...

Get over it Zach

[Slur]

Apple has perfectly sound reasons for restricting their ADC membership to those who are legally capable of signing an NDA. So while you may not be able to participate as a member in the ADC you are certainly welcome to participate in the wider informal Apple developer community where information flows freely.

Re:What the article fails to mention...

[mkelley]

According to the last stockholder meeting this is what was said via the Powerbook Zone [pbzone.com]:

"When a question about open source came up and slid to the topic of the underage developer cut off from ADC support, Jobs said "sometmies the news stories don't contain the real truth" and "it wasn't about age, it was about following the rules" and "trust us on this one." He said a minor could contribute to Darwin, but a parent or guardian would have to sign the correct forms. "

So you can still contribute and be a member, but you need to have a parent or parental guardian sign a release. This is all standard CYA stuff that most companies do.

WWDC preview?

[liquide]

It sure seems to me like this is a preview to what's coming in this year's WWDC

GCC is GNU licensed, right?

[Anonymous Coward]

Apple states in their license agreement that you MAY NOT distribute ANY application compiled with GCC 3 from this April Developer Tools release. Anyone know if this is legal?!

-Brad