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Ximian to bring Mono to Mac OS X 56

Posted by pudge from the think-similarly dept.
nunogawa writes "According to Think Secret, Miguel de Icaza said Ximian will probably be subcontracted to bring Mono (.NET support) to Mac OS X. The article mentions that de Icaza never mentions what company would hire Ximian to do this and surmises that Apple would be the likely candidate. On the other hand, I think Microsoft is another reasonable possibility."
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  • de Icaza wants to make fucking money -- dinero, l'argent liquide, cash. Whatever the fuck you want to call it. He's a businessman. And like clever businessmen who wish to remain clever businessman, the fucking guy will do fucking any fucking thing to make some money. If that means he sells his fucking shit to Apple, great. If he fucking sells his shit to some motherfucker at MS, great.

    But in terms of the fucklings on slashdot, he is fucking satan (note, _fucking_ as a verb, not adj here) if he sell it to MS. And he is fucking God (note, again, a fucking verb, not adj) if he sells his shit to Apple. I don't fucking get it. Just let this motherfucker do his fucking business without being fucking demonized in the piss and moan linux press.
    • You are indeed a profane motherfucker. But your comments are quite to the point. Remember, Miguel used to work for (or at least applied to) Microsoft. A love of cold hard cash is necessary to even think about working there.

      (Not that that is a bad thing)

      • Remember, Miguel used to work for (or at least applied to) Microsoft.

        It's not the first time I heard this - but it always was on /., so forgive me if I dare to be a little sceptic. Are there any more reliable pointers that back this up?
        • I actually read it in Linux Journal. (Or maybe Linux Magazine) about... 18 months or more ago. Okay. I found it...

          The article is here [linux-mag.com] and the quote is about 5-6 paragraphs in. He did in fact apply at MS.

          If the article is taken at face value, it seems that Miguel wanted to be a Bruce Perens type advocate. But... I don't know. I just don't think Miguel is the OSS/Free poster boy that some wish he was. I've got no problem with that viewpoint (much:). I would like to know the 'truth'. Perhaps it is in the article I quote. But the references are such throw aways that not much can be read into it. Or, perhaps, too much, in both directions, can be read into it.

          Anyway, there's the quote. Not just a fiction. This appeared in print.


  • "In one January report at ITworld.com, de Icaza said, "We're planning on supporting Mac OS X as soon as we're done with the Linux port."

  • Mac users actually pay for shareware and such.

    I'd bet they'd be really receptive to a commercially-supported set of ports of the more common X-based tools.

    There are already a couple X servers for Mac OS X. How much more would need to be done to see Ximian Red Carpet and the major components of Ximian Desktop up under Mac OS X?

    • Fink [sourceforge.net] already includes GNOME and apt. Red Carpet is nice on Red Hat where you don't have apt by default, but if I used Fink I probably wouldn't need Red Carpet.

      I use GNOME and Red Carpet on Linux, but I wouldn't even consider installing them on my OS X machine. I want native apps. (Just my opinion, of course.)
  • However, he didn't specify what company would hire Ximian. "I suppose he meant Apple," speculated one eyewitness...

    What a dumb idea. Apple has a healthy (ehem) relationship with M$. Why would they pay Ximian for a port of .net? Why not wait for M$ to do it? Seems like they probably will, since they will probably need it for Office...

    What's more, Apple are dealing with the Java port in-house. It's not like they are lacking the expertise.

    Finally, I would expect Apple to say something publicly if they were funding this. They would probably have to disclose it in their quarterlies anyway.
  • My main issue with this article is that it tries to give us the impression that they're doing us a FAVOR by porting .NET.

    I, myself, could never justify installing the port on my computers (or any I maintain).

    Aren't we all supposed to be minimizing potential vulnerabilities?

    just my opinion.
    -braxton

    • What's the vulnerability in Mono?

      • Re:A Favor? (Score:2, Informative)

        by usr122122121 ( 563560 )
        It appears I may have been a bit off in my wording.
        Here's my logic: I really am not pinning any blame here on Ximian. It's really cool that there are such avid people in the community that would like to port programs (and frameworks) over to OS X...
        I just question whether or not .NET is really needed/wanted on Mac OS X at this time.
        -braxton
  • It's more than likely that Microsoft and Apple will do the port together. MS is already porting to FreeBSD. The OS X port would likely be based on the same code, but optimized and complete with Forms.

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