Apple Wants Your Input 1002
Johnny Mnemonic writes "Apple is asking for feedback specifically from PC users about why you might be considering a Mac purchase, or if you recently purchased a Mac for the first time, why you made the switch. A good opportunity to sound off about your Apple peeves, but also a chance to let Apple know what you think they're doing right. The Mac OS X feedback page, originally from the Public Beta, is still up and accepting feedback, also."
Sure I'd buy a Mac if.. (Score:2, Informative)
Aside from that I love Mac's just too out of my price range
Re:Dear Apple, (Score:2, Informative)
I use PCs because they're cheap, but I'd like to use a G4 because they're friggin quick.
don't do what every intel and M$ marketing dept in the world wants you to do... ie; look at the numbers on the outside without any understanding of the underlying logic...
Re:one reason... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Notes from a PC user (Score:4, Informative)
Virtual PC [connectix.com] may be what you're looking for.
It's very much like VMWare, except it's actually emulating a different architecture.
Re:What if they listened? (Score:2, Informative)
I do not "hate" apple, nor do I believe do most of the posters here. I don't give a crap about the mouse, and I am hot and bothered to get my hands on OS-X... BUT... That "usual mac stuff" is how people make decisions! Hardware being too expensive is a BIG DEAL. For example
iMac: 1399
700Mhz
128Megs Ram
40Gig HD
15 inch flatscreen
Dell 4400: 1389
1600Mhz
512Megs ram
40Gig HD
19 inch CRT
This is _not_ a hard decision for me. Go do the price comparison yourself (and buy the way, that dell has 100 dollar mail in rebate, but I don't count it.. some might claim it is 1289).
The bottom line is there are LOTS of people who would love to be mac fans... but are not willing to buy 1 mac rather than 2 PCs (or in my case, 1 mac desktop rather than a very nice Sony Viao Laptop).
Re:Umm, the original Xerox mice had 3-buttons!!! (Score:5, Informative)
But of course, Englebart, who also wanted chording keyboards used in conjunction with mice (on the left side of a regular keyboard, so that when you used the mouse, you could move your other hand over too, and not strain to use all keyboard commands, even though the other keyboard was perhaps not as easy to work with) has said that he would've put more buttons on, if only he could have figured out how to make them all fit.
Jef Raskin at Apple invented the double click, however. (which was also independently invented for use with the Gypsy word processing program, unbeknownst to him) It wasn't necessary given how the Altos used the mouse.
You're not impressing me by complaining about how people don't know the history of HCI development.
Check out this site: Making the Macintosh [stanford.edu], for some very interesting historical documents and interviews.
Re:My 2 cents for what it's worth (Score:2, Informative)
If you want your opinion to be heard, I suggest the following:
Get to the point quickly: Bulleted lists of your points might be appropriate. Keep things as short as you can.
Talk about current problems and experiences, not old ones: They don't care about the Quadra you looked at 10 years ago, unless it relates to todays offerings.
Don't whine about things that won't change: The mouse is an example. Apple has had single button mice since the Apple IIe of 1983, and perhaps before. They're not going to change it, so quit your whining and buck up the $20 for a USB multibutton mouse.
Give suggestions: This hardly needs to be said to a good Slashdotter, I'm sure. Criticism means little if you don't have a better idea.
Also, this might be helpful: Apple History [apple-history.com]
Re:Linux apps on OS X (Score:3, Informative)
http://fink.sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net]
You can also use the instructions in this article [stepwise.com] to easily compile version 4.0.6 with the options that you want.
2) Civilization III is known to be slow (also on a PC). Have you installed the latest patch [infogrames.net] and disabled quartz text? You can also try to make an image of the CD (with disk copy) and use that, that should speed it up a bit as well. Optimizing your HD is also advisable. I've heard about a guy having smooth gameplay with the same machine that you have, so it's certainly possible.
Re:Deal with it! (Score:4, Informative)
Expandabiltiy! If you want expandability, don't buy an iMac! You heard me, if you need a G4 Tower, then buy a fucking G4 Tower. Would you buy a Honda Civic Hatchback and then bitch about the leg room in the back seat? (OK, some people would, but they are stupid). In a G4 Tower, you get PCI, AGP, USB, FireWire, ATA, SCSI... What more do you fucking want people????
Sorry about all the ranting. I'll go take my meds now.
Mac's useful life (Score:2, Informative)
Why would I give that up so I could just buy a computer that I'd have to replace every three to five years?
If you need to upgrade it don't buy an iMac/laptop.
I need a laptop so I keep upgrading on a regular basis :) however my father is still running a PowerMac 8500 bought towards the end of 1995 (see http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/sta ts/powermac_8500_120.html for details)
A brief list of updates carried out on the system:
It runs fine for general office type work, DV Editing, general browsing, email etc. It won't run OS X so will probably be replaced in a year or so by one that does. By that time it'll be between 7 and 8 years old. The replacement will be another Mac, but a tower not an all in one.
Re:This arguement needs to be put to rest (Score:2, Informative)
My Story (Score:3, Informative)
1. The University was at the time primerily a "mac school". 80% of the machines on campus were macs, and there was a large user community, as well as appletalk networking in the dorms.
2. I liked the GUI. Everyone told me how macs were easier to use. I had never found it difficult to use PCs, but I was impressed by the look and feel of MacOS.
3. I wanted to learn about MacOS and about Mac hardware. Again, I'd heard good things, why not experience it for myself.
Soon after I bought the 5300, I knew something was amiss. After I'd had it out of the box for five minutes it crashed unexpectedly. Unfortunately it kept doing this every couple of hours, and I was starting to question whether my $2300 had been wisely spent. I called apple's SOS-APPL line and with the help of the technician discovered that someone had indeed installed RAM-Doubler on my 5300. Evidently, someone at the U of M computer kickoff office had decided to open up my mac before it was sold to me and install unsupported software on it. According to the support rep, all I needed to do was reinstall the system.
Several hours later, after I had done a clean install of 7.5.1, I went to bed. Soon after I awoke the next day I realized that the problem hadn't been solved.
It is now day 2 and I decide that I am going to attempt to return the 5300 to the computer kickoff office, as I have a hunch that it is defective. I had seen some Toshiba laptops that some of my hallmates had purchased, and they looked pretty nice. Not only that, but they'd been available with a color screen for less than the $2300 that I'd spent for grayscale!
Unfortunately, the computer kickoff people refused to take back the machine. I called Apple and Apple would not take it back either. This machine was 2 days old and clearly defective, as it crashed every couple of hours.
The next step was to send the machine to Apple via Airborn Express for service. The machine arrived back almost a week later with a clean bill of health. Apparently, it had not crashed in the 'lab' and tests had confirmed that nothing was wrong with it. The problem was, it crashed every time I used it.
I started to feel resigned to the fact that I would have to make the relationship work if I wanted to get anything positive out of my decision to purchase the 5300. For me, stability is one of the most important things that I look for in a hardware/os combination.
I configured WordPerfect's autosave to save every 30 seconds, and I avoided using the machine for important tasks (such as papers for my classes), opting to use the computing site instead.
Over the next two semesters I spent upwards of 80 hours on the phone with SOS-APPL. During this time I heard things such as:
- "You don't have 7.5.3? That is very likely the reason your machine has been crashing"
- "Apple never should have sold the 5300 with less than 16MB of RAM. Of course yours is crashing."
- "You don't have 7.5.5? That MUST be the reason your machine is crashing."
At some point there was finally an official recall of the 5300. I was fairly cynical by this point, because my machine had received a clean bill of health the last time I sent it in. Nonetheless, my machine went back to Apple via Airborn Express for another couple of days, this time coming back with a new logic board. The new logic board helped somewhat, although the machine still crashed way more than any other Apple that I've used. You may be thinking that I had installed nonstandard software or was loading unnecessary extensions. I was not. This was with a subset of the standard extensions and no funny stuff like After Dark or all the weird MS stuff.
By my sophomore year, I decided that the best thing to do was to cut my losses and sell the 5300 and put the money toward an inexpensive desktop PC (the original $2300 was supposed to cover my computing needs for all 4 years of college). I called some local shops that sold used macs and I was offered $300 for it. THE MACHINE HAD DEPRECIATED $2000 IN ONLY ONE YEAR!
Needless to say, I had a very bad experience with Apple and Macintosh. Seeing OSX and knowing that it's built on the mach microkernel gives me hope, but my dissatisfaction has more to do with the way Apple handled the situation rather than with the hardware/OS specifically. Yes, I've heard about that deal where I could get a few hundred bucks off on a new ibook as a 5300 owner. No thank you.
I realize that I was a sucker for buying the 5300, and I would never make the mistake of buying an Apple product again, though I would accept one for free. I have also considered buying an iPod, but since I don't own a Mac it might not really be the best idea at this point.
Re:Mac's useful life (Score:4, Informative)
CPU upgrade from 132MHz 604e to 400MHz G3
scads of cheap, cheap RAM
USB PCI card
ATA PCI card and a 20GB IDE drive
PCI video card
The longevity of Macs has always amazed me. I'll probably get 7 or 8 years out of the G5 tower that will be my next new Mac purchase.
~Philly
Re:My Story (Score:3, Informative)
~Philly
Civ 3/PHP (Score:3, Informative)
For PHP have you tried:
stepwise.
PHP URL (Score:3, Informative)
Should be everything you need. It has some FAQs as well. If you used textedit to edit your php.config file, it is likely the culprit.
I hope you find this useful.
Re:Linux apps on OS X (Score:3, Informative)
Marc Liyanage [entropy.ch] has what you want, or you could try OpenOSX [openosx.com].