I'd download and remix Nine Inch Nails songs
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NIN Releases Garageband Sources For 3 New Tracks
Entropy requires no maintenance. -- Markoff Chaney
Entropy requires no maintenance. -- Markoff Chaney
Also released in 'Generic Format'... (Score:5, Informative)
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RIAA (Score:4, Funny)
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BNL also has a number of remixable songs (Score:3, Informative)
These cost $2.49 for each song-related set of tracks (all in WAV) but that's more than fair for a bunch of lossless tracks that you can use for whatever. Pretend to be Ed or Steve just by leaving out a track and filling in yourself!
Offtopic? You can use these with GarageBand too. (Score:2)
Some people may like BNL more than NIN. For those people, BNL also offers a fun exploration of remixing with good quality tracks.
Why don't you actually follow link... (Score:5, Informative)
You didn't have to ASSume anything (proving out the old saying in the process), simply following the link you find this text:
For the first time in Barenaked Ladies history we are making available for download multitracks of our songs. May we introduce "Easy", "Wind It Up", "Bank Job", "Rule the World With Love", "I Can I Will I Do" and "Maybe You're Right" off our upcoming album Barenaked Ladies Are Me. It is our hope that you will remix, re-create, re-edit, re-configure, and realize what you will with these parts in coming up with your own versions. All tracks here are 16 bit 44.1kHz WAV files ready for re-mixing. Cost for all tracks of each song is $2.49. (note: all multitracks are copyrighted material)
and clicking on any song tells you something along these lines:
It is our hope that you will remix, re-create, re-edit, re-configure, and realize what you will with these parts in coming up with your own versions. All 11 tracks (5 of which are stereo - making 16 total) here are in 16 bit 44.1kHz WAV files ready for re-mixing. Cost for all tracks is $2.49 (note: all multitracks are copyrighted material).
These are real multi-tracks, with instruments and vocals split out.
It doesn't get any more re-mixable.
What does 96 kHz buy you? (Score:3, Insightful)
None (Score:3, Interesting)
96kHz is nice for editing because you have more data to tweak- for instance if you were to timestretch a track. Plugins my friend. Essentially it's the same reason I do all my Photoshop edits at full resolution and the downscale to my output.
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But you are best doing calculations at a higher resolution than the final result to reduce rounding errors.
Just like flat bed scanners often scan at 30-bit even though 24-bit is apparently where the human eye can't see the difference.
So what are the NIN samples at? (Score:2)
It still seems to me that we should be happy bands are doing this at all.
---> Kendall
Those additional frequencies are inaudible (Score:2)
If I take a 24 bit sample of his voice 96,000 times over the course of a second's time, I have a much better understanding of what myriad of frequencies his voice box produces when saying ng's and sss's and th's, and how whiny he can sound when something isn't going his way.
How is taking a 24 bit sample of his voice 96,000 times a second better than taking a 24 bit sample of his voice 48,000 times a second, if the human ear can't hear myriad of frequencies in the 24,000 to 47,999 Hz range that the additional sample rate covers?
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Now, since the human ear perceives sound by, essentially, doing a mechanical Fourier analysis on the wave (the hair cells in the narrow
Because you don't own the masters? (Score:2)
What a freaking whiner. I guess you are more interested in complaining than playing with music.
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If hip hop/rap was as a genre based on music...
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lol!
nothing's more humorous than a joke writing off an entire category of music!
just as ignorant a comment as this one [slashdot.org], but somehow this one's funny? good ol' slashdot...
Why Apple? (Score:3, Insightful)
Pardon my ignorance, but what this has to do with Apple?
(Just asking)
Re:Why Apple? (Score:5, Informative)
Well, GarageBand is a Mac-only application written by Apple.
That'd be a good place to start.
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If you'd ever used logic 6 (the last version made by emagic before getting bought out by apple, who later produced logic 7 and recycled the sound engine into garageband), you'd know how ridiculous you sounded just now. Granted, apple didn't write the whole app from scratch, but what they did to it was the equivilent of "pimp my app" with a '79 chevy nova. Give some credit where it's due.
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Re:Why Apple? (Score:4, Informative)
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/me_im
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/capit
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/my_vi
And a fourth not linked to from the NIN main page:
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/survi
Adblock: *.Myspace.* (Score:2, Funny)
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I know this probably sounds like a troll... (Score:5, Interesting)
A band puts out their music for their fans to mess around with electronically, in a common format for very inexpensive software. Pretty neat shit.
A band can sell/giveaway/whatever their music through Apple iTMS (seriously, check out The Cells; a really kickass band, not mine.) or various other people with enough bandwidth and code to be able to sell or giveaway electronic tracks.
T-shirts, posters and other merchandise can be bought on-demand from certain sites and can be made in bulk cheaper than ever before.
Remind me again: Why do we need traditional record labels anymore? I mean, sure a band might not as easily book a night at Shea Stadium without Sony, but if smaller bands were able to keep more of their money (via not having to hand 80% of it over to the label), they don't need to play places as big as Shea Stadium regularly to still live the 'rockstar' lifestyle.
I think it's very funny that a Nine Inch Nail is helping to drive The Nail into the coffin of the record industry.
Re:I know this probably sounds like a troll... (Score:5, Insightful)
Much of the lifestyle you see with modern artists is funded by the record companies and when the sales dry up the cars, planes and cribs tend to vanish with them.
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Re:I know this probably sounds like a troll... (Score:4, Interesting)
I wasn't talking at all about sustaining the lifestyle, but rather getting to the point of having that lifestyle, however untenable, without the assistance of a record company.
Let's say a band can make $20,000 for performing at a 5,000 seat venue as a self-promoted event without record labels getting involved. Now, if said band were signed to a label and had to pay to play (or had to sell even more to get the record company the profits they want), the band may very well have to play a 30,000 seat arena to see the same $20,000.
They get the same amount of money either way, but since they're paying out less in scenario A, they don't need to worry about selling more seats. Then when they do get to the point of having the draw to fill Shea on their own (or have Shea approach them to do the show) they do get the super-mega-huge bucks.
I would totally expect that what you say is correct for rockstars as much as it is for anyone else: lose the market and lose your shirt.
What I'm saying is that bands are in a position now to be masters of their own destiny. The smart ones who understand the business will do very well for themselves, and those who have ten minutes of 'flash-in-the-pan' fame will be gone as quickly as they arrived.
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Let's say a band can make $20,000 for performing at a 5,000 seat venue as a self-promoted event without record labels getting involved. Now, if said band were signed to a label and had to pay to play (or had to sell even more to get the record company the profits they want), the band may very well have to play a 30,000 seat arena to see the same $20,000.
They get the same amount of money either way, but since they're paying out less in scenario A, they don't need to worry about selling more seats. Then when they do get to the point of having the draw to fill Shea on their own (or have Shea approach them to do the show) they do get the super-mega-huge bucks.
I would totally expect that what you say is correct for rockstars as much as it is for anyone else: lose the market and lose your shirt.
I imagine that selling more seats in itself might not have the advantage in that scenario, but out of 30,000 people, there is a bigger chance of making some dough on t-shirts, posters, wallet-chains, etc. Merchandising is one of the big moneymakers for bands.
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Big bands like NIN probably don't need record labels at this point, assuming they are willing to do all that boring work (marketing, accounting, production, legal, etc.) along with writing the music (Reznor might be willing there, but I imagine most are not). But a garage band has a nearly 0% chance of getting a hit on the radio without help. Yes, there are occasional exceptions, thats why I said 'nearly'.
BTW, how do you think sucking up to the general RIAA hating /. population sounds like a troll? If
FM radio (Score:2)
Finally (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't care if you don't like NIN's music, you have to admire how they are approaching the new medium and embracing a new environment. I will buy their CD just to have that heat sensitive label. NIN 'gets it' in my opinion.
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Guess I'm old now, but his stuff doesn't seem to have progressed much.
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Like Coca-Cola, he doesn't dare change the formula.
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I think his stuff has progressed a little bit. It's a little more organic sounding, particularly compared to Pretty Hate Machine. For example, one of the songs on his new album has a trumpet!
More importantly, I think his lyrics have gotten more mature. A lot of Pretty Hate Machine all the way to his previous two albums were about angst and navel gazing: "Woe is me, someone I love dumped me!". Maybe throw in a bit of "wow, the music industry is full of phonies! I blame you, God!". Maybe it's completely appropriate when you're a teenager or in college, but as you get older, it's a bit tiring.
"With Teeth" represented a shift in his lyrics in that they're more mature and he seems to be finally using his bully pulpit to say something important. "The Hand That Feeds" is a brilliant questioning of the war in Iraq ("what if this whole crusade is a charade?"). "Every Day is Exactly The Same" perfectly describes my job (particularly after a bitterly depressing day) after working for more than a decade ("I believe I can see the future, 'cause I repeat the same routine.")
Year Zero improves on that even more. He's gone from complaining about his love life to providing an interesting commentary and warning against the move to fascism. My favorite track "Capital G" is a perfect description a young Republican or someone who is on his way to becoming a "Brown Shirt".
So while the music isn't wildly different, I think that his lyrics have matured quite a bit. In that way, he's gone from entertainment to art, and it makes his music far more interesting.
Re:Finally progressed (Score:3, Interesting)
Mr 'techno' reznor had the guts to play not only acoustically, but also did it without a DRUMMER.
Nothing but Acoustic piano and a string section that made a lot of noisy pendericki-type sounds.
He said he was scared sh*tless, and didn't know if he would do it again, but he took the effort to make new arrangements of some of his newer songs and go outside his comfort zone and ch
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> I saw that same bent in "The Hand That Feeds", although maybe I need to go back and listen to it with a different mindset.
Give it another listen, and see if you notice the subtle criticism. He's basically speaking to the people who were tacitly for the Iraq war (or at least weren't strong enough to say no). Perhaps he's even talking to the reporters who were so gung-ho about the war? To top it off, Reznor wanted
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Brillant.
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Just something to ponder.
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Then obviously you can make an authorised duplicate from the sources!
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I don't care if you don't like NIN's music, you have to admire how they are approaching the new medium and embracing a new environment. I will buy their CD just to have that heat sensitive label. NIN 'gets it' in my opinion.
Absolutely. I'm a music student in a program for digital arts and experimental media*, and I think it's fantastic to see a well established band taking steps to move the music industry forward. I don't care for NIN music (like, at all), but you have to hand it to them, I haven't seen anyone else do more to connect with their fan base, educate interested parties in the process of modern production and composition, and build interest about a new release. With the option of digital distribution, I can use techniques such as this to market my music (and hopefully monetize it through instructional downloads/official tab PDFs) while remaining free of an RIAA contract. If Trent were here, I'd say "good show." I'd probably also say "cheer up dude."
*University of Washington, Seattle if you care. :)
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If by that you mean that they have a large and dedicated following, most of whom will buy the CDs, DVDs, T-shirts, etc and attend the concerts, then yes, they "get it". (Although by "they" I assume you mean Trent - it is still essentially a one-man band, isn't it?)
Not all bands/stars are so blessed, even some of the big names are living essentially on hype and marketing saturation. We can argue relative worth until we're blue in the face (although I suspect I'd lik
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Too bad their record company doesn't [slashdot.org].
"Musician," not "Musicians" (Score:3, Informative)
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This is a myth.
It's true, Trent Reznor is the leader/owner etc. of the band "Nine Inch Nails", but on every album he has worked with other musicians in the studio. On Pretty Hate Machine he worked with Chris Vrenna and Flood, if you don't believe me, go find some of the embarrassing early demos before that album came out. Broken included Vrenna again as well as Martin Atkins on drums. Downward
As a iMac owner (Score:2)
Did not have this problem prior, but then, I never tried this with real songs.
Has anyone else encountered the constant stoppages of garage band with these tracks?
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A sign of things to come? (Score:2, Funny)
I guess the next step involves giving everyone guitars so they can write the songs for them?
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Re:A sign of things to come? (Score:5, Insightful)
Some people say the same thing about an operating system. They tend to get mocked as luddites here on SlashDot, or tools of Microsoft.
Not saying I disagree with you. Just trying to give you some perspective.
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Real meaning of open source (Score:3, Funny)
Whew!
This is a good thing (Score:2, Insightful)
It feels to me like he's taking a very honest approach about it; after all if the tracks suck then the no-one's going to bu
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Then, a few days before the release he put the whole CD up for streaming on their web-page.
It's an awesome album by the way.
You watch... (Score:2, Funny)
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And don't forget Open Source Resistance! [ninwiki.com]
--JoeLooks like they're wrapping up the ARG too (Score:2)
Alternate Reality Game (Score:5, Informative)
So, they also release the individual tracks from the songs of the album, in Garage Band and other formats. Bad ass. But you know what else? This is all part of the game - some of the songs contain hidden pictures [wikipedia.org], backmasked vocals [echoingthesound.org] that lead to website addresses, and there's even morse code on the album.
It is expected that there will be even more hidden goodness available to us now that we can examine the individual tracks. Not only that but holy crap some of these hidden tracks are creepy- the Reaktor instrument in My Violent Heart, for example.
And the heat sensitive label freaked me out, even though I knew it was going to change... that of course revealed another code for the ARG. All the songs seem different after reading up on the ARG. And thats the thing- this album is another concept album, but instead it centers around a fictional future universe rather then being a big metaphor for Trent's own trials and tribulations. Though I'm sure some of those are mixed in too
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Enjoy the album. I've even started listening to the old ones thinking about possible intertextual references... start with Pretty Hate Machine and go on up and try to make up a story about how they relate.
Can't wait to see the live shows-- did you see this?
On April 18, 2007, Open Source Resistance hosted a gathering in LA. Musicians, artists, and ordinary people gathered in support of a simple message: speak up to d [opensourceresistance.net]
Year Zero (Score:2, Funny)
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A Flash-using site? So much for "openness" (Score:2)
Not only is not "open", it is also remarkably stupid — the largely plain-text page (its background being a giant JPG) linked from the write-up is written entirely in Flash... There are not ringing bells and no blowing wistles — their web-master, apparently, knows only the single tool (hammer), and everything looks like a nail to him/her... Eeewwww..
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Flash is available - free of charge - for 99% of desktops. This isn't some annoying banner ad or obnoxious webapp or anything like that. This is an artist using Flash on the web in a fairly tasteful context. "But, bu
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As far as I know, Garage Band is not GNU either.
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"Mainstream" rock bands don't usually release their songs for free. This one did, for whatever reasons, one of the reasons — by popular opinion, at least — being "to show our openness and appreciation for the fans". Well, this fan is offended, rather than pleased...
It did not appear nice in my Firefox-2.0.0.3. A 64-bit version... My primary objection was not even to their use of Flash per se, but to the gr
Suggested album title: "Passive Aggression" (Score:2)
One thing I'm not clear on: if I put the songs on a USB keychain, will the RIAA sue [slashdot.org] me?
IT'S A TRAP...is it? (Score:2)
Under what license(s) did Reznor/NIN release the sources? Who's to say the record company/IP rights holder won't come after you if you redistribute or even sell remixes?
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I want to fuck you like an animal
I want to feel you from the inside
I want to fuck you like an animal
My whole existence is flawed
You get me closer to God
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I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not a robot who simply does things the law tells me to do.
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Bob
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Bob
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I'm not from the US so you'll have to spell out exactly what the references you state mean.
The statutes I cited are the U.S. statutes describing "fair use" (the U.S. counterpart to "fair dealing"), other uses exempt from copyright exclusivity, and various statutory licensing schemes. 17 USC 1201 is the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA, whose European counterpart is national legislation implementing the EU Copyright Directive.
However, I think 50 years for copyright is reasonable, as it is here in the UK.
UK copyright lasts up to 120 years, as it expires 70 years after the last surviving author dies.
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Bob
For free and legally? How can the author tell? (Score:2)
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Isn't all music synthetic?
Absolutely! (Score:2)
Yeah! Instruments are for pussies, a cappella is the only real music...