People are still buying the 21.5 inch iMac which has a 10 year old CPU and low resolution display for $1099. Apple will keep selling that for at least the next decade because its pure profit: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy... [apple.com]
A good example of that is the HermÃs Airtag accessory it costs 10x more and does nothing better than the $35 one. It doesnâ(TM)t even look very different.
it's not garbage. That's a value judgement YOU have placed on it. Others have different criteria (e.g. my wife for example is very happy with a quite low powered Apple machine, she plays no games, doesn't write software or do anything else particularly power hungry, and yet values the quality offered by Apple's machines (enclosures, screens etc).
Further more, if you have a problem with an apple machine, the after sales service is just spectacularly good compared to any other electronics supplier in my expe
I guess 9 times outta 10 is an exaggeration. Tbh the fixes be had for macs have all been free but all under their programmes for “out of the ordinary” repairs, like the “stage light” problem and a couple of butterfly keyboards.
And don't even talk to me about the crappy black tower boxes from self-build efforts (and yes I have done a self build before) - regular crashes from crap quality enclosures is the norm.
Hahaha I've built machines in fucking shoe boxes that don't "Crash", your argument shows you know nothing about building PCs. But the case is soo gooood! LMAO
Apple are not the reliability kings you seem to think they are.
In another hobby I'm involved in there are 3 major manufacturers - of the three one has a profoundly greater failure rate, typically every new major product has at least one major failure, sometimes requiring the product be shipped to the manufacturer, yet their customers gush over their great products, and when asked about high failure rates, they talk about how speedy the repairs are!
If you self-built, and you are getting "regular crashes from crap quality enclosures" then you need to spend more than $30 on a case and actually install some fans that move air through it. The problem isn't with the enclosure, the problem is with the incompetent person who didn't buy components of the proper spec to keep things in operating temperatures.
As far as other OEMs go, I think you'll find that Dell's Precision and XPS laptops are every bit as high quality in their engineering as Apple's MacBooks,
I will give you that Dell makes some really nice stuff, but their cooling solutions leave something to be desired at times. I've had more than a couple of Dell laptops simply up and die with no warning. I had an XPS 13 that I really liked, but I liked my MacBook Pro 15" more.
Apple's issues are definitely not imaginary - keyboards aside (which is an obvious sore spot) they do a decent job of board design but ask too much of their GPU and CPU cooling and more often than not end up cooking themselves. This has
They are just as thin and light, made with quality materials, and house the same powerful components if not more powerful in the GPU options, and get similar battery life.
They do not run macOS or OS X. Can't be so hard to grasp.
Oh so now you are going to retroactively add requirements that were not in the comment that I replied to. I believe that is called "moving the goalposts".
If the GGP would have said "I need to run macOS so other OEMs and DIY won't get the job done" I wouldn't have even replied.
Basically you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
1. Someone says "the Apple hardware is better because other OEMs are crap and DIY sucks" 2. I reply "some other OEMs are crap, others are pretty good, you just need to shop around a bit. And if you are having overheating issues on a DIY build, it's because you did it wrong. 3. Someone else replies and basically confirms what I said 4. You reply with "OMG macOS bullshit arguments blah blah blah" 5. I reply with "Hey, you're the first to even mention software, so good job on s
If you want to do a self build with a decent quality case then there's likely to be far less price difference. If you want something stylish AND good quality, self built, then forget it.
That sounds like a challenge to me sir. Here's a $750 build that should outperform the linked iMac. It has an expensive white case, and a nicer screen than I've ever seen on a mac.
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no one wants to be left with an abandoned machine, i.e. during the PPC to Intel transition.
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People are still buying the 21.5 inch iMac which has a 10 year old CPU and low resolution display for $1099. Apple will keep selling that for at least the next decade because its pure profit: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy... [apple.com]
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>Very overpriced.
Like any luxury fashion statement, the entire point is to show the world that you can afford to pay extra.
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A good example of that is the HermÃs Airtag accessory it costs 10x more and does nothing better than the $35 one. It doesnâ(TM)t even look very different.
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Yes mr. Peacock, you tail is indeed there to help you fly better rather than impress the ladies!
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it's not garbage. That's a value judgement YOU have placed on it. Others have different criteria (e.g. my wife for example is very happy with a quite low powered Apple machine, she plays no games, doesn't write software or do anything else particularly power hungry, and yet values the quality offered by Apple's machines (enclosures, screens etc).
Further more, if you have a problem with an apple machine, the after sales service is just spectacularly good compared to any other electronics supplier in my expe
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And don't even talk to me about the crappy black tower boxes from self-build efforts (and yes I have done a self build before) - regular crashes from crap quality enclosures is the norm.
Hahaha I've built machines in fucking shoe boxes that don't "Crash", your argument shows you know nothing about building PCs. But the case is soo gooood! LMAO
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Apple are not the reliability kings you seem to think they are.
In another hobby I'm involved in there are 3 major manufacturers - of the three one has a profoundly greater failure rate, typically every new major product has at least one major failure, sometimes requiring the product be shipped to the manufacturer, yet their customers gush over their great products, and when asked about high failure rates, they talk about how speedy the repairs are!
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If you self-built, and you are getting "regular crashes from crap quality enclosures" then you need to spend more than $30 on a case and actually install some fans that move air through it. The problem isn't with the enclosure, the problem is with the incompetent person who didn't buy components of the proper spec to keep things in operating temperatures.
As far as other OEMs go, I think you'll find that Dell's Precision and XPS laptops are every bit as high quality in their engineering as Apple's MacBooks,
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I will give you that Dell makes some really nice stuff, but their cooling solutions leave something to be desired at times. I've had more than a couple of Dell laptops simply up and die with no warning. I had an XPS 13 that I really liked, but I liked my MacBook Pro 15" more.
Apple's issues are definitely not imaginary - keyboards aside (which is an obvious sore spot) they do a decent job of board design but ask too much of their GPU and CPU cooling and more often than not end up cooking themselves. This has
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Why again such bullshit arguments?
They are just as thin and light, made with quality materials, and house the same powerful components if not more powerful in the GPU options, and get similar battery life.
They do not run macOS or OS X. Can't be so hard to grasp.
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Oh so now you are going to retroactively add requirements that were not in the comment that I replied to. I believe that is called "moving the goalposts".
If the GGP would have said "I need to run macOS so other OEMs and DIY won't get the job done" I wouldn't have even replied.
Basically you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
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I'm arguing that you do not grasp why people buy ;acs.
Thy by them because they come with Mac OS X/macOS preinstalled.
So: YOU ARE MOVING THE GOAL POST.
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Using some paraphrasing for brevity:
1. Someone says "the Apple hardware is better because other OEMs are crap and DIY sucks"
2. I reply "some other OEMs are crap, others are pretty good, you just need to shop around a bit. And if you are having overheating issues on a DIY build, it's because you did it wrong.
3. Someone else replies and basically confirms what I said
4. You reply with "OMG macOS bullshit arguments blah blah blah"
5. I reply with "Hey, you're the first to even mention software, so good job on s
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No idea what you are talking about.
But it must have been a relief to get your anger shouted out! Continue!
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If you want to do a self build with a decent quality case then there's likely to be far less price difference. If you want something stylish AND good quality, self built, then forget it.
That sounds like a challenge to me sir.
Here's a $750 build that should outperform the linked iMac. It has an expensive white case, and a nicer screen than I've ever seen on a mac.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/... [pcpartpicker.com]
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