What a feeble FP. Go ahead, mod it up. I double dare ya.
Anyway, I submitted the same story with The Guardian link. https://www.theguardian.com/wo... [theguardian.com] My version of the submission included a suggestion for a constructive solution, thusly:
Why should the Covid app share any data that can be breached? What if the default operation was purely local so there is no need for fancy encoding and any ongoing server communications? At least it would be a much simpler app and more easily secured, and they could still allow people to opt-in for the weird and dangerous stuff.
As I want it, the app would just count all the smartphones that come close to me and give me advice about where my risks are and how to reduce them. Simple example: Exactly how many people am I exposed to if I ride the train at 9 o'clock versus waiting until 10? A smartphone phone can do that much without sharing any data with any server. More examples available upon polite request, as the ancient joke goes, but they seem intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, as another ancient joke goes.
Because it will be months before you hit a critical mass in immunization and a lot of harm can still come?
From all indications and tests, the vaccines show to protect you from infection or even if you do get infected, you won't get all that sick or die.
I'm two weeks into my 2nd shot, and for the first time in over a year, I've left the house, been to some public events and eaten at an indoor restaurant, and spent time with friends again driving around, going places and doing things.
The US will be fine... the UK has a harder path. The only real challenge is if immunizations start to slow and mutations accelerate in a festering ongoing spread.
The symptoms of long covid sound pretty bad though, aye.
And you wouldn't want to be that guy who inadvertently that kills a 12yr old chemo patient either?
Quite ready to get my vaccine, but I live in a rather clueless jurisdiction. They've been stepping on the gas and the brake at the same time for a year now. No telling when I'll get the option. (I still think the money part should have been deferred. TIDI = Time-Inverted Disaster Insurance.)
Actually, the option should be for the type of vaccine. It would make some of the hesitaters feel better if they got to pick whichever one they think is safest and least tainted by Bill Gates. Maybe we could get the Pope
What I find interesting that the clever cryptography used by the Apple-Google system ALREADY achieves the goal that the government is trying to achieve, without uploading any location data.
With the clever cryptography, there is no need whatsoever for the an infected person to say *where they were* after reporting that they were infected. Instead, they report which *random numbers* their phone was sending out every few minutes. Anyone whose phone heard those random numbers more than once must have been close
That's for the Bluetooth tracking. The location upload is probably for QR code checkins. Every Heath Department in the world is going through these manually when a patient tests positive, but that does not scale well when you have as many cases as the UK (or US) with most of them not physically being seen and just told to isolate at home because there are not enough beds for everyone to keep them in a proper quarantine. If the upload is manually initiated by the user, Apple and Google are just being a pa
Well, my suggested approach wouldn't even need location data. The times would be sufficient, though obviously enabling the location tracking could make the analysis easier to understand.
Actually, the lack of understanding is one of the main reasons such apps are basically failing to be installed by enough people to do much good. Heck, I have a degree in computer science and worked for a research lab that included a number of security researchers, but I don't understand it beyond the surface. Maybe I could f
England and Wales, not the UK. As it says in the article; "Scotland has avoided this pitfall because it released a separate product - Check In Scotland - to share venue histories, rather than trying to build the functionality into its Protect Scotland contact-tracing app."
I also note that the morons in the British government who brought this situation about need to be defenestrated. I have no problem sharing my venue location from a discretionary scanner but I do have a problem with living in a useless country that cannot prevent the second highest death rate in the world because we are so up our own backsides with our personal freedom that we cannot implement a public health tracking system that every tin pot third world country has implemented. Quite frankly Western values
Algol-60 surely must be regarded as the most important programming language
yet developed. -- T. Cheatham
UK breaking rules, a shock! (Score:1)
I am sure that the rules are broken only in âoea Limited And Specific Wayâ.
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What a feeble FP. Go ahead, mod it up. I double dare ya.
Anyway, I submitted the same story with The Guardian link. https://www.theguardian.com/wo... [theguardian.com] My version of the submission included a suggestion for a constructive solution, thusly:
Why should the Covid app share any data that can be breached? What if the default operation was purely local so there is no need for fancy encoding and any ongoing server communications? At least it would be a much simpler app and more easily secured, and they could still allow people to opt-in for the weird and dangerous stuff.
As I want it, the app would just count all the smartphones that come close to me and give me advice about where my risks are and how to reduce them. Simple example: Exactly how many people am I exposed to if I ride the train at 9 o'clock versus waiting until 10? A smartphone phone can do that much without sharing any data with any server. More examples available upon polite request, as the ancient joke goes, but they seem intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, as another ancient joke goes.
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Because it will be months before you hit a critical mass in immunization and a lot of harm can still come?
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From all indications and tests, the vaccines show to protect you from infection or even if you do get infected, you won't get all that sick or die.
I'm two weeks into my 2nd shot, and for the first time in over a year, I've left the house, been to some public events and eaten at an indoor restaurant, and spent time with friends again driving around, going places and doing things.
At this point, I'm not
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The US will be fine... the UK has a harder path. The only real challenge is if immunizations start to slow and mutations accelerate in a festering ongoing spread.
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Quite ready to get my vaccine, but I live in a rather clueless jurisdiction. They've been stepping on the gas and the brake at the same time for a year now. No telling when I'll get the option. (I still think the money part should have been deferred. TIDI = Time-Inverted Disaster Insurance.)
Actually, the option should be for the type of vaccine. It would make some of the hesitaters feel better if they got to pick whichever one they think is safest and least tainted by Bill Gates. Maybe we could get the Pope
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Down here, I happened upon the CVS pharmacy website to schedule my shots.
It was so easy, I registered on a Monday I went the next day.
On the CVS website, they showed not only the many appointment time slots opened, but also showed which locations were giving which vaccine.
I opted for the Pfizer.
From what I read, many states are now not even ordering their limit on vaccine doses due to dropping demand.
I can tell you here, I had no problem gettin
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The difference of competent leadership. "Elections have consequences." (I actually thought Dubya said it first, but apparently not.)
*sigh*
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What I find interesting that the clever cryptography used by the Apple-Google system ALREADY achieves the goal that the government is trying to achieve, without uploading any location data.
With the clever cryptography, there is no need whatsoever for the an infected person to say *where they were* after reporting that they were infected. Instead, they report which *random numbers* their phone was sending out every few minutes. Anyone whose phone heard those random numbers more than once must have been close
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That's for the Bluetooth tracking. The location upload is probably for QR code checkins. Every Heath Department in the world is going through these manually when a patient tests positive, but that does not scale well when you have as many cases as the UK (or US) with most of them not physically being seen and just told to isolate at home because there are not enough beds for everyone to keep them in a proper quarantine. If the upload is manually initiated by the user, Apple and Google are just being a pa
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Well, my suggested approach wouldn't even need location data. The times would be sufficient, though obviously enabling the location tracking could make the analysis easier to understand.
Actually, the lack of understanding is one of the main reasons such apps are basically failing to be installed by enough people to do much good. Heck, I have a degree in computer science and worked for a research lab that included a number of security researchers, but I don't understand it beyond the surface. Maybe I could f
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I also note that the morons in the British government who brought this situation about need to be defenestrated. I have no problem sharing my venue location from a discretionary scanner but I do have a problem with living in a useless country that cannot prevent the second highest death rate in the world because we are so up our own backsides with our personal freedom that we cannot implement a public health tracking system that every tin pot third world country has implemented. Quite frankly Western values