Why not allow both? We're both speculating, but they gain nothing by removing USB-C charging and then can sell Apple branded battery packs down the road or at least say they support it. Tim Cook's apple seems more open to playing nicely with others.
Magsafe was awesome. Everyone loved it. It worked precisely as designed, produced less wear and tear from daily proper usage, and has saved MANY laptops. Not only was it effective, it just 'felt' cool to hear that snap when you got the cable close enough.
I would love to see them keep the same brick, but introduce a new USB-C to magsafe3 cable. Their base would go nuts.
If I were apple, I would be more concerned about the early wear and tear on the warrantied laptops USB-C produces. Apple is arguably more a luxury goods provider than a hardware provider. I think charger cables are small fries in profitability, so they don't gain much by forcing you to use a proprietary charger. They gain more by not having to service dropped laptops as well as the sales factor of people seeing shiny, new macbook pros owned by their friends and wanting to buy one themselves. That is greatly diminished if your friend's macbook has battle scars: scrapes, dents, gashes.
That is why I am hopeful, they will play nice and produce a USB-C to magsafe and still allow USB charging, call it innovation, and let the 3rd party manufacturers fill the gaps needed, like battery packs, chargers, etc.
Not everyone. In my opinion it fell off too easily. And like most Apple products of the time, the cable had no strain relief whatsoever so the cable would split and break next to the connector.
It's a neat solution but I can't recall ever tripping on a laptop power cable. Spinning hard drives are rare to find in laptops now, so there is much less chance of breakage even if a device does fall off a desk.
Magsafe was awesome. Everyone loved it. It worked precisely as designed, produced less wear and tear from daily proper usage, and has saved MANY laptops.
Never heard anyone saying his laptop broke because of lack of magsafe. Never.
Not only was it effective, it just 'felt' cool to hear that snap when you got the cable close enough.
Can't argue with you here. Typical Apple user I guess. The real reason to use Apple is because of how it feels. It doesn't matter how crappy or overpriced the product is, as long as it feels good.
Never heard anyone saying his laptop broke because of lack of magsafe. Never.
And yet, broken power jacks are one of the most common problems in laptops. Enough so that many teardowns see if the power jack is soldered to a circuit board or plugs into the motherboard because it's a common replacement item.
And there are countless examples where someone has tripped over a power cable and sent the attached laptop to the floor.
I've even seen it done by the presenter at a seminar.
The real reason to use a Mac is: it runs Unix out of the box.
99% of Apple users couldn't care less about Unix and never use the terminal on their Mac. Not sure there is even one on iOS, or anything left from Unix accessible to the end user.
Never heard anyone saying his laptop broke because of lack of magsafe. Never.
If you've never seen a laptop or any device fall because someone tripped on a cable, I would guess you haven't used it very often near kids, in airports, conference rooms at conventions or large companies, dogs, even my cat, and especially my wife.
My wife drops hers all the time. It's a serious risk if you use one on a couch or bed. Also, with kids and dogs running around, you get up, place it on the coffee table and someone runs near it and sends it on the floor. Only adults who are paying attention te
Never heard anyone saying his laptop broke because of lack of magsafe. Never.
If you've never seen a laptop or any device fall because someone tripped on a cable, I would guess you haven't used it very often near kids, in airports, conference rooms at conventions or large companies, dogs, even my cat, and especially my wife.
I do that all the time, yes. Except being near your cat and wife.
You know most of big tech uses Apple laptops, right? For me, it's my programming workstation issued by my employer.
Even if it were true, it doesn't make it the typical Apple user. Apple's market share in the corporate world is even lower than its global share.
the best selling laptop
Again not sure if it really is the single best selling laptop (which one? the Mac Book Air?), but given it probably has something like 5% of the market, I don't see what is your point. That the competition (non-Apple PC makers) is healthy and divided between many different brands and models people can
Some people are happy paying more for a better product. Some people are happy paying less for a "good enough" product. That's market segmentation, and people in both segments are both right, for what they want.
The problem with Apple is that many people would can't afford it spend way too much money on iDevices. As a shareholder, I'm glad. But from a society perspective I find it pathetic.
The only problem I've run into with MagSafe, is that after a 2 years or so (or actually depending on the environment you have it in), it seems to stop working. What is happening is that there is just enough dust and lint in the MagSafe connector in the MacBook that it won't charge. Sometimes the light won't turn green. My employer bought a few replacement MagSafe plugs and they worked just a few weeks and failed. Then we noticed the dust, we used one of those air blowers used to clean keyboards on the MagSa
Why not allow both? We're both speculating, but they gain nothing by removing USB-C charging
My prediction, because it's such an obvious thing to do, is that Apple will offer a Magsafe connector - but in the middle of the Magsafe connector on the laptop, will also be a USB-C port. So you could charge either with the Magsafe cable, or a standard USB-C cable, and also the Magsafe port is not taking up one of the USB-C slots when you are not charging.
There are a number of companies selling things somewhat like this - adapters so that you plug a magnetic connector into USB-c on your laptop, then use a cable that's magnetic on the end. It's a bit of a hassle because there's a thing sticking out the side of your otherwise nice looking laptop, and a random little adapter to keep track of if you take it out.
What would be ideal (IMO) would be that there's one magnetic connector that's power + everything else, and then a few USB-c connectors just like now. So
Yes, that would be best if the magnetic connector could hook up a whole dock of all other connectors, almost like a custom USB-C port that could also support faster charging or maybe even multiple USB-C buses (not sure what the proper term for that would be)..
Oh yes, I remember the magsafe proprietary chargers that cost well over $100 CAD and that broke constantly. Awesome!
I'll stick to standards, thanks. USB-C is just fine. If you want magsafe, here you go: https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=usb+c+magnetic+charging+cable&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
Proprietary or Nothing (Score:5, Interesting)
Why not both? (Score:5, Interesting)
Magsafe was awesome. Everyone loved it. It worked precisely as designed, produced less wear and tear from daily proper usage, and has saved MANY laptops. Not only was it effective, it just 'felt' cool to hear that snap when you got the cable close enough.
I would love to see them keep the same brick, but introduce a new USB-C to magsafe3 cable. Their base would go nuts.
If I were apple, I would be more concerned about the early wear and tear on the warrantied laptops USB-C produces. Apple is arguably more a luxury goods provider than a hardware provider. I think charger cables are small fries in profitability, so they don't gain much by forcing you to use a proprietary charger. They gain more by not having to service dropped laptops as well as the sales factor of people seeing shiny, new macbook pros owned by their friends and wanting to buy one themselves. That is greatly diminished if your friend's macbook has battle scars: scrapes, dents, gashes.
That is why I am hopeful, they will play nice and produce a USB-C to magsafe and still allow USB charging, call it innovation, and let the 3rd party manufacturers fill the gaps needed, like battery packs, chargers, etc.
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Magsafe was awesome. Everyone loved it.
Not everyone. In my opinion it fell off too easily. And like most Apple products of the time, the cable had no strain relief whatsoever so the cable would split and break next to the connector.
It's a neat solution but I can't recall ever tripping on a laptop power cable. Spinning hard drives are rare to find in laptops now, so there is much less chance of breakage even if a device does fall off a desk.
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And like most Apple products of the time, the cable had no strain relief whatsoever so the cable would split and break next to the connector.
I'm starting to think I'm the only person on the planet who never had this problem... Lucky me!
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Magsafe was awesome. Everyone loved it. It worked precisely as designed, produced less wear and tear from daily proper usage, and has saved MANY laptops.
Never heard anyone saying his laptop broke because of lack of magsafe. Never.
Not only was it effective, it just 'felt' cool to hear that snap when you got the cable close enough.
Can't argue with you here. Typical Apple user I guess. The real reason to use Apple is because of how it feels. It doesn't matter how crappy or overpriced the product is, as long as it feels good.
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And yet, broken power jacks are one of the most common problems in laptops. Enough so that many teardowns see if the power jack is soldered to a circuit board or plugs into the motherboard because it's a common replacement item.
And there are countless examples where someone has tripped over a power cable and sent the attached laptop to the floor.
I've even seen it done by the presenter at a seminar.
Anyhow, there's nothing to say App
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And yet, broken power jacks are one of the most common problems in laptops. [...]And there are countless examples where someone has tripped over a
So common I have never heard about it.
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The real reason to use a Mac is: it runs Unix out of the box.
No idea why you are an Apple Users Hater, though.
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The real reason to use a Mac is: it runs Unix out of the box.
99% of Apple users couldn't care less about Unix and never use the terminal on their Mac. Not sure there is even one on iOS, or anything left from Unix accessible to the end user.
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Your iOS critics you could extend to Android.
Most if not all laptop/desktop users I know, actually do use the terminal. And that again, actually, has nothing to do with unix or not.
Macs run on Unix, so do basically all Apple devices, even the watches. No idea what there is to argue about.
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I was not criticizing iOS. I was criticizing your claim that the "real reason to use a Mac" is because it runs Unix.
Newflash : nobody buys an Android because it runs Linux is also true.
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For most apple users, it is :D
No idea about android users, I guess many simply try to find a phone with good price/performance ratio. However many are moving to true linux phones.
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For most apple users, it is :D
No, it isn't. Most Apple users don't even know what Unix is.
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No, it isn't. Most Apple users don't even know what Unix is.
Butter know what Windows is?
Sersously, why shame people you have no ida about?
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what's your point? Yes, most people know what Windows is and most people do not know what Unix is. And this is also true for Apple users.
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And I'm convinced you are wrong :P As most Apple users are software developers, oops. That was actually pretty clear or not?
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As most Apple users are software developers
wrong again
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Actually: nope.
Even if it is only 51% (which it is not): I'm right, pfft.
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yes, but if it's like 10-15% (much more likely), then you are wrong
Mabye you have not been around kids, dogs or wives (Score:2)
Never heard anyone saying his laptop broke because of lack of magsafe. Never.
If you've never seen a laptop or any device fall because someone tripped on a cable, I would guess you haven't used it very often near kids, in airports, conference rooms at conventions or large companies, dogs, even my cat, and especially my wife. My wife drops hers all the time. It's a serious risk if you use one on a couch or bed. Also, with kids and dogs running around, you get up, place it on the coffee table and someone runs near it and sends it on the floor. Only adults who are paying attention te
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Never heard anyone saying his laptop broke because of lack of magsafe. Never.
If you've never seen a laptop or any device fall because someone tripped on a cable, I would guess you haven't used it very often near kids, in airports, conference rooms at conventions or large companies, dogs, even my cat, and especially my wife.
I do that all the time, yes. Except being near your cat and wife.
You know most of big tech uses Apple laptops, right? For me, it's my programming workstation issued by my employer.
Even if it were true, it doesn't make it the typical Apple user. Apple's market share in the corporate world is even lower than its global share.
the best selling laptop
Again not sure if it really is the single best selling laptop (which one? the Mac Book Air?), but given it probably has something like 5% of the market, I don't see what is your point. That the competition (non-Apple PC makers) is healthy and divided between many different brands and models people can
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Some people are happy paying more for a better product. Some people are happy paying less for a "good enough" product. That's market segmentation, and people in both segments are both right, for what they want.
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The problem with Apple is that many people would can't afford it spend way too much money on iDevices. As a shareholder, I'm glad. But from a society perspective I find it pathetic.
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Why not really have both... (Score:1)
Why not allow both? We're both speculating, but they gain nothing by removing USB-C charging
My prediction, because it's such an obvious thing to do, is that Apple will offer a Magsafe connector - but in the middle of the Magsafe connector on the laptop, will also be a USB-C port. So you could charge either with the Magsafe cable, or a standard USB-C cable, and also the Magsafe port is not taking up one of the USB-C slots when you are not charging.
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There are a number of companies selling things somewhat like this - adapters so that you plug a magnetic connector into USB-c on your laptop, then use a cable that's magnetic on the end. It's a bit of a hassle because there's a thing sticking out the side of your otherwise nice looking laptop, and a random little adapter to keep track of if you take it out.
What would be ideal (IMO) would be that there's one magnetic connector that's power + everything else, and then a few USB-c connectors just like now. So
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Yes, that would be best if the magnetic connector could hook up a whole dock of all other connectors, almost like a custom USB-C port that could also support faster charging or maybe even multiple USB-C buses (not sure what the proper term for that would be)..
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Oh yes, I remember the magsafe proprietary chargers that cost well over $100 CAD and that broke constantly. Awesome!
I'll stick to standards, thanks. USB-C is just fine. If you want magsafe, here you go:
https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=usb+c+magnetic+charging+cable&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
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