If you hate Apple enough, it's easy to dismiss what's happening right in front of us at the moment. What I find most interesting is looking at what this M chip can do already but also to keep in mind that they have yet to release their "Pro" spec chip (P-series?).
This is just the first iteration of a mobile level chip and it's already outperforming x86 CPUs and discrete GPUs, albeit older ones. Going the route of previously unseen levels vertical integration also opens up all sorts of new systems developmen
Update: It looks like the Bits and Chips CInebench R23 result is not for the Apple M1 SoC but from an A12Z. MacRumours has a result in that it reckons is from a genuine new M1 13-inch MacBook Pro, though, and it is somewhat better than the A12Z, of course. It quotes Twitter user @mnloona48_ who shared an MBP M1 unboxing and various other tests on his new 8GB machine. Mnloona48's Cinebench R23 scores are an impressive 1,498 single core, 7,508 multi core.
The "mid range mobile CPU" has 8 performance cores and 16 threads, to the M1's 4 performance + 4 low-power cores - no real surprise the AMD chip pulls ahead in multi-threaded scores. But it's telling that the same AMD chip gets around 3/4 of the single-threaded performance of the M1 (while using 50% more power). So while you can certainly get faster multi-core x86 chips, AMD better be hoping their 5nm Zen chips coming next year bring a lot more to the table, because they'll need it to compete with an 8x or
The "mid range mobile CPU" has 8 performance cores and 16 threads, to the M1's 4 performance + 4 low-power cores - no real surprise the AMD chip pulls ahead in multi-threaded scores.
The "mid range mobile CPU" with more performance cores is cheaper than the M1. So yeah, it's a surprise, or at least it's a surprise that people are so excited about the M1.
But it's telling that the same AMD chip gets around 3/4 of the single-threaded performance of the M1 (while using 50% more power).
Yes, it is. It's telling that the cheaper chip has better single-thread performance.
So while you can certainly get faster multi-core x86 chips, AMD better be hoping their 5nm Zen chips coming next year bring a lot more to the table, because they'll need it to compete with an 8x or 12x performance core Apple chip.
Assuming Apple's glue logic scales gracefully.
Though frankly, the 5nm Zen chips WILL bring more performance to the table.
Marvelous! The super-user's going to boot me!
What a finely tuned response to the situation!
A paradigm shift happening in front of us (Score:5, Insightful)
If you hate Apple enough, it's easy to dismiss what's happening right in front of us at the moment. What I find most interesting is looking at what this M chip can do already but also to keep in mind that they have yet to release their "Pro" spec chip (P-series?).
This is just the first iteration of a mobile level chip and it's already outperforming x86 CPUs and discrete GPUs, albeit older ones. Going the route of previously unseen levels vertical integration also opens up all sorts of new systems developmen
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They are going to have to work hard to overtake AMD mobile chips. Take this Cinebench test for example: https://m.hexus.net/tech/news/... [hexus.net]
The M1 scores less than half what the AMD mobile part does. The GPU is years behind current AMD ones as well.
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Update:
It looks like the Bits and Chips CInebench R23 result is not for the Apple M1 SoC but from an A12Z. MacRumours has a result in that it reckons is from a genuine new M1 13-inch MacBook Pro, though, and it is somewhat better than the A12Z, of course. It quotes Twitter user @mnloona48_ who shared an MBP M1 unboxing and various other tests on his new 8GB machine. Mnloona48's Cinebench R23 scores are an impressive 1,498 single core, 7,508 multi core.
Re:A paradigm shift happening in front of us (Score:2)
Which if you look at the chart is less than 3/4 the mid range AMD mobile CPU.
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The "mid range mobile CPU" has 8 performance cores and 16 threads, to the M1's 4 performance + 4 low-power cores - no real surprise the AMD chip pulls ahead in multi-threaded scores. But it's telling that the same AMD chip gets around 3/4 of the single-threaded performance of the M1 (while using 50% more power). So while you can certainly get faster multi-core x86 chips, AMD better be hoping their 5nm Zen chips coming next year bring a lot more to the table, because they'll need it to compete with an 8x or
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The "mid range mobile CPU" has 8 performance cores and 16 threads, to the M1's 4 performance + 4 low-power cores - no real surprise the AMD chip pulls ahead in multi-threaded scores.
The "mid range mobile CPU" with more performance cores is cheaper than the M1. So yeah, it's a surprise, or at least it's a surprise that people are so excited about the M1.
But it's telling that the same AMD chip gets around 3/4 of the single-threaded performance of the M1 (while using 50% more power).
Yes, it is. It's telling that the cheaper chip has better single-thread performance.
So while you can certainly get faster multi-core x86 chips, AMD better be hoping their 5nm Zen chips coming next year bring a lot more to the table, because they'll need it to compete with an 8x or 12x performance core Apple chip.
Assuming Apple's glue logic scales gracefully.
Though frankly, the 5nm Zen chips WILL bring more performance to the table.