When I want to run the poor interface and crippled single-tasking single-pane applications of iOS I take out my iPad and use it.
I'm using a Mac because it's UNIX on an x86 CPU with a decent visual interface on decent hardware with working suspend and resume (without regular fights with the software like Linux).
I don't want iOS. I don't want some lame emulation to run existing binaries or the VM with my production Linux apps in it, or portable Docker images.
I'm a developer and an engineer that makes things for your users, Apple - and I don't want your shitty control freakery ideas about having your own CPU.
When I want to run the poor interface and crippled single-tasking single-pane applications of iOS I take out my iPad and use it.
What about if you could use iOS photo editing extension on a Mac... that was also demoed and looked rather useful.
I don't want iOS.
But why, you don't have to use it. And there may be some app that could be useful to run. They show up in the Mac App Store so you could check them out or not.
I don't want some lame emulation
Luckily it's not emulation, much less lame - it re-compiles the code into native binary that is run on the "Apple Silicon" (surely there is a better name incoming). You might question how well that would work, but they demoed a few modern games (like Rise of the Tomb Raider), and very complex apps like Maya running very large datasets to show it worked just fine... along with a lot of other apps that are almost done with native support, like Photoshop or the Microsoft products.
to run existing binaries or the VM with my production Linux apps in it, or portable Docker images.
Funny you should mention that because a fair amount of the demo today was explicitly showing how new virtualization support added would work with VMs for Linux instances, and Docker as well - who Apple is working closely with to run extremely well on the new ARM systems....
If you are running Linux it sure seems like there is much less need to care about what the underlying architecture really is.
I'm a developer and an engineer that makes things for your users, Apple - and I don't want your shitty control freakery ideas about having your own CPU
I am a developer an engineer, very much into the idea of a much better performing system with way better power management, that has expanded choices as to what I can run on it. Apple was really showing to the engineers today, that the Arm system could be a really compelling choice.
very much into the idea of a much better performing system with way better power management
To be fair it sounds like you're into the idea that this may one day happen. If however this was your concern now you'd have no interest in ARM anywhere outside of your tablet or phone. The performance is not yet there.
Oh you're an engineer now too! What you are is delusional.
What is truly informative about your post is what is says about everyone who's posted similar comments throughout yesterday. After all, we know that you will spew whatever dogma you've learned from Apple marketing.
Now we know that all that insist that Rosetta is a compiler and not an emulator are just dutiful soldiers who don't understand what these terms even mean. Not that it isn't obvious, but when SuperKendall
Please explain how I run a Docker image filled with x86 binaries on an ARM platform without emulation. Go ahead and fire up a Debian / ARM EC2 instance real fast and see how that works out. Or, if you're anti-cloud, do it on the raspberry pi you likely have laying around your desk.
Also, please cite your source for Apple and Docker working closely together, because Docker is a fucking dumpster fire on macOS in comparison to other platforms - having to run a secret Linux VM, insufficient tools for disk mana
Of course no one wants this. This is another attempt at "fixing" the Mac App Store. They keep trying to figure out ways to get people to use it, and one of the problems is you go and search for an app and don't find anything. So now they're adding a million iOS apps, which will guarantee search results. My suspicion is this will actually make the Mac App Store worse because youâ(TM)ll have more garbage to wade through, but at least it'll bump of the MAS numbers a bit so it doesn't look as terrible by t
I think it's even worse. Developers are losing interest in the Mac platform and likely desktop platforms more generally. There are examples of apps on iOS that don't exist on Mac at all (and won't going forward).
I think it's even worse. Developers are losing interest in the Mac platform and likely desktop platforms more generally. There are examples of apps on iOS that don't exist on Mac at all (and won't going forward).
Who gives a shit?
macOS Big Sur runs most iOS and iPadOS Apps without modification.
Next objection?
"An organization dries up if you don't challenge it with growth."
-- Mark Shepherd, former President and CEO of Texas Instruments
iOS apps? No thanks. (Score:4, Informative)
When I want to run the poor interface and crippled single-tasking single-pane applications of iOS I take out my iPad and use it.
I'm using a Mac because it's UNIX on an x86 CPU with a decent visual interface on decent hardware with working suspend and resume (without regular fights with the software like Linux).
I don't want iOS. I don't want some lame emulation to run existing binaries or the VM with my production Linux apps in it, or portable Docker images.
I'm a developer and an engineer that makes things for your users, Apple - and I don't want your shitty control freakery ideas about having your own CPU.
Think again... not emulation (Score:5, Informative)
When I want to run the poor interface and crippled single-tasking single-pane applications of iOS I take out my iPad and use it.
What about if you could use iOS photo editing extension on a Mac... that was also demoed and looked rather useful.
I don't want iOS.
But why, you don't have to use it. And there may be some app that could be useful to run. They show up in the Mac App Store so you could check them out or not.
I don't want some lame emulation
Luckily it's not emulation, much less lame - it re-compiles the code into native binary that is run on the "Apple Silicon" (surely there is a better name incoming). You might question how well that would work, but they demoed a few modern games (like Rise of the Tomb Raider), and very complex apps like Maya running very large datasets to show it worked just fine... along with a lot of other apps that are almost done with native support, like Photoshop or the Microsoft products.
to run existing binaries or the VM with my production Linux apps in it, or portable Docker images.
Funny you should mention that because a fair amount of the demo today was explicitly showing how new virtualization support added would work with VMs for Linux instances, and Docker as well - who Apple is working closely with to run extremely well on the new ARM systems....
If you are running Linux it sure seems like there is much less need to care about what the underlying architecture really is.
I'm a developer and an engineer that makes things for your users, Apple - and I don't want your shitty control freakery ideas about having your own CPU
I am a developer an engineer, very much into the idea of a much better performing system with way better power management, that has expanded choices as to what I can run on it. Apple was really showing to the engineers today, that the Arm system could be a really compelling choice.
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very much into the idea of a much better performing system with way better power management
To be fair it sounds like you're into the idea that this may one day happen. If however this was your concern now you'd have no interest in ARM anywhere outside of your tablet or phone. The performance is not yet there.
Re: (Score:2)
"I am a developer an engineer..."
Oh you're an engineer now too! What you are is delusional.
What is truly informative about your post is what is says about everyone who's posted similar comments throughout yesterday. After all, we know that you will spew whatever dogma you've learned from Apple marketing.
Now we know that all that insist that Rosetta is a compiler and not an emulator are just dutiful soldiers who don't understand what these terms even mean. Not that it isn't obvious, but when SuperKendall
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Oh you're an engineer now too! What you are is delusional.
Never heard of an Embedded Designer? They do both hardware engineering and software development.
Like me. For about 40 years now.
So, STFU and die, moron.
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Please explain how I run a Docker image filled with x86 binaries on an ARM platform without emulation. Go ahead and fire up a Debian / ARM EC2 instance real fast and see how that works out. Or, if you're anti-cloud, do it on the raspberry pi you likely have laying around your desk.
Also, please cite your source for Apple and Docker working closely together, because Docker is a fucking dumpster fire on macOS in comparison to other platforms - having to run a secret Linux VM, insufficient tools for disk mana
Re: iOS apps? No thanks. (Score:3)
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I think it's even worse. Developers are losing interest in the Mac platform and likely desktop platforms more generally. There are examples of apps on iOS that don't exist on Mac at all (and won't going forward).
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I think it's even worse. Developers are losing interest in the Mac platform and likely desktop platforms more generally. There are examples of apps on iOS that don't exist on Mac at all (and won't going forward).
Who gives a shit?
macOS Big Sur runs most iOS and iPadOS Apps without modification.
Next objection?