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Apple Launches CarPlay At Geneva Show 264

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An anonymous reader writes "Apple announced today a system called CarPlay, which integrates your iPhone with your car, with Siri voice control. CarPlay will be offered in Ferrari, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo vehicles this year, and others 'down the road.' From the press release: 'CarPlay makes driving directions more intuitive by working with Maps to anticipate destinations based on recent trips via contacts, emails or texts, and provides routing instructions, traffic conditions and ETA. You can also simply ask Siri and receive spoken turn-by-turn directions, along with Maps, which will appear on your car’s built-in display.'
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Apple Launches CarPlay At Geneva Show

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  • Innovation? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AmiMoJo (196126) * <mojo@world3AAA.net minus threevowels> on Monday March 03, 2014 @02:18PM (#46388779) Homepage

    Apple seems to have invented what a lot of people have been using for years - a head unit with MirrorLink capability. How come it is suddenly wonderful?

    • by NapalmV (1934294)
      Because now you'll have to pay AT&T monthly in order to use it or the GPS. It's good for the economy!!!
    • Re:Innovation? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Black.Shuck (704538) on Monday March 03, 2014 @02:43PM (#46389003)

      Innovation != Invention

      innovate |nvet|
      verb [ no obj. ]
      make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products: the company's failure to diversify and innovate competitively.
        [ with obj. ] introduce (something new, especially a product). we continue to innovate new products.

      So yes, Apple innovates. They innovate on the execution of ideas, rather than invent new ones.

    • Re:Innovation? (Score:5, Informative)

      by maccodemonkey (1438585) on Monday March 03, 2014 @03:25PM (#46389359)

      Apple seems to have invented what a lot of people have been using for years - a head unit with MirrorLink capability. How come it is suddenly wonderful?

      Eh, there's an argument for functionality, but on a technical level, it's actually pretty cool. It's actually a second screen capability, not a mirroring capability. Apps using the API get to use the car display as a discreet second display, rendering whatever content they want dedicated to that display.

    • by swb (14022)

      How widely supported is MirrorLink by handset makers?

      The MirrorLink consortium list of smartphones only returns one Samsung and a whole lot of Nokia and Sony models.

      How about car makers? The way auto makers integrate car functionality into infotainment units makes it complicated-to-impossible to add aftermarket units to cars. Aftermarket head units aren't good enough.

      Personally, I'm a little disappointed with Apple's system. First, it's not wireless, and second, it doesn't give me the ability to see arbi

    • Just like 9.7" smartphones were suddenly called "tablets" and were equally wonderful.
      You couldn't use them to make a phone-call, though.

  • So will it be patchable through your phone, or will it severely lag behind phone development, like every other "Car OS" we've seen so far...
    • I'm just waiting for Clippy to pop up and say "I see you're having an accident. Would you like me to play a Funeral Dirge?"

      • by sjbe (173966)

        I'm just waiting for Clippy to pop up and say "I see you're having an accident. Would you like me to play a Funeral Dirge?"

        On an Apple product? Seems unlikely... Perhaps on some other product [wikipedia.org].

  • The 3 auto makers offering it first are all high-end luxury brands. That means the "early adopters" are the same people who have plenty of disposable income to have already purchased superior options.

    (Personally, if I had they money to be driving around a Ferrari, I would already have a really nice custom stereo system in it, which would surely have a dedicated GPS system in it. Why get stuck in a situation where you can't find some place you need to get to, just because you accidentally left your phone at

    • The 3 auto makers offering it first are all high-end luxury brands.

      Well that's this week. Other manufacturers may premiere later. Having it in the car is another story. Who knows, GM might actually have it in their cars before these three.

    • It's not either/or (Score:5, Informative)

      by sjbe (173966) on Monday March 03, 2014 @02:45PM (#46389011)

      The 3 auto makers offering it first are all high-end luxury brands.

      Volvo cars aren't exactly priced in the stratosphere. Even their expensive offerings are still FAR cheaper than those from Mercedes and Ferrari. Volvo makes nice cars but they are mostly at the lower end of the luxury segment if you consider them a luxury vehicle at all.

      Personally, if I had they money to be driving around a Ferrari, I would already have a really nice custom stereo system in it, which would surely have a dedicated GPS system in it.

      A reasonable thing to do but why not have the option of layering on Siri or similar Android services in addition? I'd rather have the consumer electronics stuff handled by a consumer electronics company whenever possible. I have a GPS in my truck but it is woefully out of date, expensive and the graphics pretty much suck. Car companies are REALLY bad at updating firmware and they don't do enough product volume to get costs down to reasonable levels. When possible it makes a lot more sense to use something like a smartphone to handle many of these tasks.

      (Again, the wealthy have the means to pay for "concierge" services by phone where they can make requests of a live operator who answers. Why settle for an automated system like Siri?)

      Just because you have a bit more cash doesn't mean you want to spend it needlessly. Concierge services are expensive and most people who can afford a nice luxury vehicle didn't get their money by being frivolous with their cash. It's not an either/or proposition either. Personally I'd be more likely to use Siri (even with its deficiencies) than some high priced live service even if I had the money just because it would probably be an occasional use thing with me.

      • by AmiMoJo (196126) *

        Manufacturers are slowly getting better. Toyota's system is quite cheap and they give you 8 years of free map updates. Obviously the graphics will date quickly and there is a lot of crap like a weather app and twitter app, but it isn't nearly as bad as it used to be where your £2500 system would be a brick within a couple of years.

        • by sjbe (173966)

          Manufacturers are slowly getting better.

          Granted but MUCH too slowly. I think what they really need to do is collaborate with companies like Apple and Google and Microsoft on some standard interfaces to let the companies that do consumer electronics well (not the car companies) take care of that piece of the puzzle. Right now they provide an aux port and some bluetooth and claim that they have iPod integration. It's pathetic, expensive and becomes obsolete almost immediately. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to send weather or map data t

    • Race cars (and Ferraris) shouldn't have anything in/on them that doesn't make them go faster. No stereo, no passenger seat, no carpet.

      Anybody who owns a Ferrari and gives any thought to the stereo is a pretentious wanker.

      If I had the funds to buy a new Ferrari, I'd buy a top alcohol car instead.

  • Lock in (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Barlo_Mung_42 (411228) on Monday March 03, 2014 @02:40PM (#46388983) Homepage

    I wouldn't buy a car that has this unless it also works with other phones.

    • by TubeSteak (669689)

      I wouldn't buy this at all

      'CarPlay makes driving directions more intuitive by working with Maps to anticipate destinations based on recent trips via contacts, emails or texts, and provides routing instructions, traffic conditions and ETA. You can also simply ask Siri and receive spoken turn-by-turn directions, along with Maps, which will appear on your carâ(TM)s built-in display.'

      I'm not interested in trading privacy for a gimmick.

  • I have a long history of pro apple posts. I'd just like to go on record saying this doesn't excite me at all. (neither does a watch)
    • by swb (14022)

      I feel the same way. I think it has potential but it depends on how easy/hard Apple makes for developers to get their apps to work on the dash.

      I think a more elegant solution would have been airplay mirroring; I find it hard to believe there isn't a remote display touch-enablement built into the protocol, and it would have put everything on the in-dash display.

      There's probably some halfway legitimate arguments to be made for the "separate display" concept, either from an orientation/aspect ratio or safety

      • I feel the same way. I think it has potential but it depends on how easy/hard Apple makes for developers to get their apps to work on the dash.

        As far as I can see, this isn't supported. It's simply a way of accessing certain built in apps.

  • by EMG at MU (1194965) on Monday March 03, 2014 @02:46PM (#46389029)
    If you have this you better hope you have nothing to hide from the other people who might be in your car.

    Siri: "I see that you have received a text from Ms. Longlegs with the address for the Super 8 motel, would you like directions?"

    Siri: "I noticed that your most frequent destination is: Woody's Rub and Tug, would you like directions? Shall I make a reservation?"
  • Of all the really ass-backwards, poorly performing parts of a modern automobile, the head unit has got to be one of the absolute worst. It requires a minimal, simple interface, and the ability to multi-task effectively. Even the aftermarket pieces which try to do a better job end up sucking horribly. Of all things that matter, Apple (I grudgingly admit) probably has the best chance to solve. MS sure isn't going to get it right (they've tried, and failed, no suprise). And most of the current miscarriages of

    • by sjbe (173966)

      Of all things that matter, Apple (I grudgingly admit) probably has the best chance to solve

      Actually after sitting in a Model S, I'd say Tesla is probably furthest along the right track. They seem to be the only car company that has figured out how to update firmware and the 17" screen they use makes a LOT more sense than most of the other systems I've seen. A little 6" screen seems a bit out of date and certainly can't display much. Not saying Tesla has everything perfect but its the most innovative system I've seen. Certainly more interesting than tighter iPhone integration.

    • Of all the really ass-backwards, poorly performing parts of a modern automobile, the head unit has got to be one of the absolute worst. It requires a minimal, simple interface, and the ability to multi-task effectively. Even the aftermarket pieces which try to do a better job end up sucking horribly. Of all things that matter, Apple (I grudgingly admit) probably has the best chance to solve.

      I hate touchscreen interfaces for car stereos - there's no way to know what you're doing unless you physically look at the screen, which, unless you happen to be a chameleon, makes it really, really hard to watch where you happen to be piloting your 2,500 lb Death Machine at the moment.

      Really makes me miss the stereo in my 1981 GMC - big knobs and heavy-duty mechanical switches. Aside from knowing which station I was tuning in with a touch, there was something particularly satisfying about the loud Ka-CHUNK

  • I don't know about you. The car I'm driving is 9 years old and it is still going strong. I will likely keep it for another 3-4 years at least. Gadgets don't last this long. I'm afraid it might work wonder now but in a few years it is an eye sore every time I get into the car. I wouldn't buy car comes with this kind of crap. Give me bluetooth and auxiliary jack. I'm satisfied.
    • Part of me wonders why this is noticeably better than bluetooth integration. I mean, yes, a steering wheel button is nice, but with my iPhone in the cradle and the head unit set to bt audio, I do just about all this stuff already (though with Waze for mapping, Pandora for streaming music, Google for searching, etc). What would be far better is a stand-alone unit which can pair with your phone to *expand* the car audio - like direct access to mobile device content, embedded tethering for data, and authentic

  • From TechCrunch: [techcrunch.com]

    CarPlay only grants access to select applications installed on the connected phone. At launch, CarPlay only works with Spotify, Beats Radio, iHeartRadio, and Stitcher. Sorry, Rdio fans.

    Tell me again how this is somehow better than the Bluetooth connection everybody is using now?

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