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Nokia Design Guru Urges Apple To End Cable Chaos 791

An anonymous reader writes "Nokia's former head designer has called on Apple to work with the broader technology industry and end its policy of having proprietary connectors for its device chargers and accessories. Other experts say Apple cannot continue to go it alone with Lightning Connectors and ignore Micro USB."
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Nokia Design Guru Urges Apple To End Cable Chaos

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  • by gnasher719 ( 869701 ) on Monday October 14, 2013 @05:18AM (#45119459)
    Seriously, what's the problem? The important thing are charges that you can plug into the wall and that should be safe and powerful, with a USB outlet. And then you have cables that you plug into devices - what's the problem with having different cables? And why should a company producing _better_ cables switch to an inferior one?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14, 2013 @05:31AM (#45119509)

    You can get a Lightning to Micro USB adapter, pretty much everywhere you get an iPad.

    The Lightning connector, for all its many proprietary ills, is so ridiculously better designed for actual usability compared to the nightmare that is Micro USB that it isn't even funny.

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Monday October 14, 2013 @05:54AM (#45119617)

    Now we have people complaining of cable orientation and defending and defending closed proprietary products...

    It's called maturity, something the /. crowd has a lot more of since the site's inception. Sometimes good proprietary stuff is better, sometimes small things like cable orientation matter. Sure beats the "if it's not open-source / Linux / GNU it's automatically crap" attitude of yore around here.

  • by Sockatume ( 732728 ) on Monday October 14, 2013 @06:13AM (#45119669)

    Unlike the Dock which contained a whole load of dedicated video and audio connectors, the Lightning connector's just an 8-pin connector that gets its video and docking capability from sending a digital stream that's interpreted further down the line. There's no a lot that Lightning can do that microUSB can't do by a similar system such as MHL.

  • by wbr1 ( 2538558 ) on Monday October 14, 2013 @06:13AM (#45119675)
    1000 Insertions is way to few. I connect my phone (for charging or data transfer, 2-3 times a day. It would be out of design spec in a year. I use my devices longer than that thank you. (Although in many I am capable of replacing the jack, most others are not).
  • by JeffOwl ( 2858633 ) on Monday October 14, 2013 @06:43AM (#45119769)
    "...a fragile mess." What are you people doing to your phones? I've never had a micro USB connector fail, either in the cable or on the phone. Maybe I'm just lucky?
  • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) * on Monday October 14, 2013 @07:15AM (#45119937)
    There already is a standard. Apple is choosing to ignore it. That's sort of the whole point of this argument.
  • by nickserv ( 1974794 ) on Monday October 14, 2013 @07:50AM (#45120127)

    It doesn't appear owners are very happy with them... http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD818ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-cable?fnode=3a [apple.com]
    Also, Apple discussion forums are pretty scathing but happy people don't post there.

    You'll find similar ratings on a majority of their other adaptors and cables, stuff made for a pittance and sold for $25+. Check out the fail that is Mini-Display Port (-> VGA or HDMI) for example.

    On the upside, they do try new things and bring ideas to market. I've thanked Apple numerous times for the Mag-Safe power connector which they definitely popularized. (Whoever said the iMac popularized USB is wrong.)
    Also, I thought I blew a MacBook Pro a year or 2 back when I plugged in a Chinese knock-off adaptor. The PSU brick popped right away and the notebook instantly powered down. It turned out to be OK but that's an experiment you don't retry so after that I always buy the less crappy, safe and warrantied chargers from Apple. A chip in the cable may have come in handy there, otherwise it does seem like a money grab.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14, 2013 @08:04AM (#45120213)

    The high quality of video output over it compared with no video over Micro USB suggests that it is universally "better".

    Fixed that for you.

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday October 14, 2013 @09:16AM (#45120763)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • Re:Yep (Score:4, Interesting)

    by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Monday October 14, 2013 @09:53AM (#45121115) Homepage Journal

    Hanging devices by connectors? Sounds like a terrible storage solution.

    So just to be clear, you complained that the cables have poor retention, which is bullshit, but you don't actually care if the cables have poor retention, you just wanted something to complain about so you made something up? Got it.

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