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iOS 7 Beta 3 Now Available For iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch 205

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An anonymous reader writes "Apple on Monday released iOS 7 beta 3 for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch to developers. Apple unveiled iOS 7 during its WWDC 2013 keynote in early June, and the new software was met with mixed responses. While some believe iOS 7 is a big leap forward in terms of innovation, BGR said that iOS 7 focused mainly on renovation rather than the introduction of innovative new features. Of course, Apple still may have some surprises in store for the release version of iOS 7 this fall, especially considering the next-generation iPhone 5S is expected to launch around the same time with an integrated fingerprint scanner."
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iOS 7 Beta 3 Now Available For iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch

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  • it sucks

    as someone who carries an iphone 5 and Galaxy S3 daily what is iOS missing that's so awesome on Android?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by _xeno_ (155264)

      as someone who carries an iphone 5 and Galaxy S3 daily what is iOS missing that's so awesome on Android?

      The ability to install apps from sources that aren't the official app store and the ability to develop apps for free without paying a $100/year subscription?

      Plus an open source kernel, so you can verify that all your activity isn't being routed directly to Apple for the NSA. I mean, "advertising purposes."

      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 08, 2013 @02:46PM (#44217937)

        I'm sure you've reviewed every line of all the open source code on your Android device to ensure none of your activities are being sent anywhere you don't want them to.

        You haven't. Hoping someone else has doesn't cut it either, unless you review it how do you know there are no backdoors?

        And besides all of that.. congratulations, you're likely using one of the four major cellular providers who all provide a direct feed to the NSA anyway.

      • by alen (225700)

        the kernel might be open source but there is lots of non-open software on every android phone that can send data to NSA. carrier IQ for instance

      • by SuperKendall (25149) on Monday July 08, 2013 @03:51PM (#44218539)

        The ability to install apps from sources that aren't the official app store and the ability to develop apps for free without paying a $100/year subscription?

        Both have the same answer - Jailbreak. Which is easy to do if you are technically inclined enough to want to program or to be able to protect yourself from malicious sideloaded programs.

        Once jailbroken, you can deploy anything you like without paying the $100 fee to deploy to your device. It also opens up the ability to easily hack any third party application with simple code additions.

        Meanwhile non-technical users get a fairly secure system that they cannot screw up too easily.

        And on a side note, you don't even need to jailbreak just to install apps from sources not from the app store. Anyone can install ad-hoc builds, anyone with an enterprise license can provide installable apps to anyone (though technically they are supposed to be employees).

        Plus an open source kernel, so you can verify that all your activity isn't being routed directly to Apple for the NSA

        iOS is as open source in that regard, and there've also been quite a lot of people analyzing network traffic outbound from it.

        It's absurd to clam that (for instance) the Android that ships with a Samsung or Motorola phone is something you can see all the source code for... that simply is not true.

        • by AmiMoJo (196126) *

          iOS is as open source in that regard, and there've also been quite a lot of people analyzing network traffic outbound from it.

          Cool, where can I download the source and compile my own build without the spying/advertising? How do I install it on my iDevice? Obviously there will be a few binary blob drivers, but the core OS is open source and can be operated without any link to Apple/iTunes/App Store etc, right?

          Once jailbroken ... you are in an arms race with Apple who keep trying to disable the exploits you n

          • Cool, where can I download the source and compile my own build without the spying/advertising?

            You just use the provided Apple OS builds since they don't spy or provide advertising details, if you've switched that option off in settings.

            Surely someone as technically "knowledgeable" as yourself can find a settings switch?

            Or you hook into the OS services and block anything you like.

            the core OS is open source and can be operated without any link to Apple/iTunes/App Store etc, right?

            Yes [apple.com]

            you are in an arms race wi

            • by AmiMoJo (196126) *

              You just use the provided Apple OS builds since they don't spy or provide advertising details, if you've switched that option off in settings.

              So what you are saying is:

              a) It isn't actually open source in the same way as Android

              b) I should trust you and Apple on this, even though the device MUST be activated through Apple and the only way to get apps on it is via the App Store or paying Apple for a developer/corporate account?

              You can compile AOSP from source and use it without a single byte being sent to or

              • a) It isn't actually open source in the same way as Android

                Thankfully not.

                b) I should trust you and Apple on this, even though the device MUST be activated through Apple and the only way to get apps on it is via the App Store or paying Apple for a developer/corporate account?

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify [wikipedia.org]

                As a long time Apple user and developer I know that that Apple work to protect users privacy far more than any other OS system does. The app store restrictions, and the sandboxing means that every year it becomes harder and harder for software to do something malicious or thoughtless that threatens the users privacy. And Apple's own software respects user privacy too. But this isn't simply a matter of trust. People run packet sniffers on iOS dev

            • by Microlith (54737)

              Tethered jailbreaks they do not care about because they draw ideas (and sometimes hire people) from the jailbreak community.

              Ripe bullshit. Not that they don't steal ideas from the jailbreak community, but that they don't care about tethered jailbreaks. That would imply a lax attitude towards security from Apple, and I don't believe that for a moment.

        • by Microlith (54737)

          Jailbreak

          Ah yes, play the stupid cat and mouse game with Apple so that you can do as you please. No, the reality is to break out of the Stockholm Syndrome and stop buying Apple products.

          After all, Apple has been pushing hard to get the Jailbreaking exemption removed. Once they achieve that goal (especially if the bullshit from the LoC last round is a sign of things to come) they'll come down hard on every jailbreaking group to push it even farther underground.

          you don't even need to jailbreak just to install

        • by tepples (727027)

          Jailbreak.

          It is not clear that this is even legal on an iPod touch or an iPad. The current DMCA exception from the Librarian of Congress applies only to phones.

      • by jon3k (691256)
        How does viewing AOSP code prove that your binary doesn't have a backdoor?
    • by slaker (53818) on Monday July 08, 2013 @02:45PM (#44217921)

      1. Consistent data sharing between applications
      2. A decent on-screen keyboard. Personally I like the sliding-style ones like Swype and Swiftkey and iOS doesn't do that eithre, but one of my biggest annoyances with iOS is that Apple's keyboard does not change the state of letters on-screen when the shift key has been pressed.
      3. Ability to download arbitrary files and organize data in arbitrary ways.
      4. Widgets. I'm not a huge fan of them, but it sure is nice to see a list of my e-mails with subject lines right on my home screen.
      5. Set default apps to non-Apple options.

      • by tlhIngan (30335)

        2. A decent on-screen keyboard. Personally I like the sliding-style ones like Swype and Swiftkey and iOS doesn't do that eithre, but one of my biggest annoyances with iOS is that Apple's keyboard does not change the state of letters on-screen when the shift key has been pressed.

        Fair comment about the shift key state (though I suppose one reason why is caps gives readability).

        Though I wonder if the reason why Android keyboard alternatives are plentiful is because the default Android keyboard is... well, terr

        • Seriously, try Swiftkey. It was a lifesaver after I switched from iOS to Android. It's not a different form of input like Swype, just another QWERTY keyboard that has bigger buttons and better autocorrect / word prediction.
      • by AmiMoJo (196126) *

        So it's pretty much Android 2.1. I can only assume there is something they are holding back, something that will be revealed with the iPhone 5S which no other device is already doing. Then again last time it was Apple Maps.

      • one of my biggest annoyances with iOS is that Apple's keyboard does not change the state of letters on-screen when the shift key has been pressed.

        Does a physical keyboard do that? No. So it's a bogus requirement. It's a giveaway that you're just listing points of difference between Android and iOS, rather than anything that's actually a deficiency of iOS.

        I can honestly say it's never once crossed my mind that a keyboard should do such a thing. It adds nothing. It's a gimmick.

    • by saloomy (2817221)

      it sucks

      as someone who carries an iphone 5 and Galaxy S3 daily what is iOS missing that's so awesome on Android?

      The ability to download your own apps / apps off a website I would say is the only really interesting thing Android has over IOS. A lot of my friends have complained about the iPhone not having widgets and not liking the "tile" grid. Personally, I think the notification center on both platforms serves as a great mechanism for things I care to know about in a glance (emails/text messages I need to pay attention to, application updates like Skype/whatsapp, and news feeds from select sites). The iPhone has a

    • by war4peace (1628283) on Monday July 08, 2013 @04:00PM (#44218633)

      One thing that's VERY important to some people:

      Bluetooth Stack implementation.

      At work, I pulled my HTC Desire S, fired Bluetooth and could see 17 devices around me. Some laptops, some mobile devices, some headphones and one specialized device. My colleague's iPhone 4 could see none. You can't pair an iPhone with a laptop and seamlessly transfer data between them.

      When the iPhone:
      - can't see headphones;
      - Can't pair with laptops;
      - can't pair with OBD II devices

      Then it's partly useless, and I don't need a castrated device.

      • Agreed, it's embarrassing that my free flip phone from 2006 can do more with Bluetooth than an iPhone can.

        The inability to send contacts via Bluetooth is especially maddening, as I work in a cell phone kiosk that doesn't have one of those $10,000 machines to transfer contacts so when upgrading customers' phones, I typically use Bluetooth or a memory card to transfer contacts, neither of which are options on the iPhone.
      • by speedlaw (878924)
        Most importantly, can't move documents or music files. I like my iPhone, but when I hit this, I knew I was in the land of "defective by design". Whatever. Unlike my 9930 BB, at least the Iphone synchs properly and doesn't crash the Mac doing so. Do I need a print scanner for my phone ? How does this help me ?
  • REALLY?? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Ok, look, I'm a huge Apple fanboy and love Apple news but, come ON!! Apple posted a Beta of iOS 7 and that's making it onto the front page?

    Guess what? They're going to release another beta of iOS 7 in about two weeks. And then another two weeks later. And so on and so on. Each one will be a bit tighter and tighter until they release the final gold master.

    I don't mind seeing these sorts of updates on appleinsider.com but here? Come on!

    • by sg_oneill (159032)

      They posted it so boring people can have bitter arguments about what irrelevant phone purchase they made is better.

      Seriously, its pretty dull.

  • by Minwee (522556) <dcr@neverwhen.org> on Monday July 08, 2013 @02:45PM (#44217917) Homepage

    Be careful about installing this. The new icons and colour scheme still cause some older display panels to burst into flames or, in extreme cases, the entire device to shut down out of embarrassment.

  • by H0p313ss (811249) on Monday July 08, 2013 @03:42PM (#44218463)

    Seriously guys, get over yourselves.

    • What's more sad, the people who are passionate about devices, or the people who are passionate about chastizing people for being passionate about devices?
      • by H0p313ss (811249)

        What's more sad, the people who are passionate about devices, or the people who are passionate about chastizing people for being passionate about devices?

        A good question, but I put it to you that there is a difference between being passionate about devices and "emo fanboy ranting". (I am passionate about devices.)

  • Ugly as shit. Someone drown that Hello Kitty mother fucker.
  • Get ready for the BOOM!

    But seriously, I really hope that the iOS upgrade doesn't crash my Exchange server. I'm tired of the devices blowing up my logs.

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