iPhone Finally Coming To T-Mobile In 2013 154
New submitter kc67 sends this report from ABC:
"Five years after the iPhone originally launched in 2007, T-Mobile will finally start carrying it. It might not be as buzz-worthy as when Verizon finally got the iPhone back in 2011, but it's going to be a pretty big deal for T-Mobile subscribers next year, when the carrier starts selling Apple products. ... T-Mobile USA CEO John Legere said while speaking at the Deutsche Telekom conference Thursday that it will carry the iPhone and will offer it in a different way. 'What was missing? A certain number of customers wouldn't come to the store if we didn't have the iPhone,' Legere said. 'We worked very, very hard for a deal that made sense for us.'"
New problem (Score:5, Funny)
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If that were the case, they'd have to stop selling Bluetooth headsets.
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....Fortunately for them some people don't care, some people are too cheap, and some people like me prefer GSM because its an international standard
The iPhone 5 has GSM no matter which company you go with. Only the Verizon and Sprint versions have CDMA. And for LTE, the two different varieties use different bands. Which variety you will want (if you want LTE internationally) for international travel depends on which country you're visiting. For GSM, it doesn't matter.
Applies to the US only (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/
and you see an iPhone 5. T-Mobile have been offering it over here for a considerable time.
About time the US caught up with other parts of the world...
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It's the iphone, this is a step back!
*ducks*
t-mobile has great pre-paid plans (Score:3, Insightful)
I hope all the i-shiny folks coming over will not ruin that.
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T-Mobile says it already has a million iPhone users - people like me who brought their own device.
So we "i-shiny" folks are already there.
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Yes, but you brought you own device and continue to use it. You're not one of those high-maintenance customers who needs to upgrade their iPhone every time a new ones comes out, or throws a huge fit if you get a scratch on the casing and wants the whole phone replaced, etc. So you're not the same sort of customer the AC is referring to. Customers who raise operating costs for carriers and make them raise prices for everyone.
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I used two iShiny phones on T-Mobile prior to my current Android. You can't beat T-Mobile's $30 5GB prepaid plan.
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$30/month (with autopay), unlimited messaging & data on Virgin Mobile. That seems to beat it to me.
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Can you link me to it? I think it is now $35/month.
That plan was also very good, and it includes more minutes (300). The downside is less high-speed data (2.5GB vs 5GB).
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As I said, it's $30 with autopay. Virgin Mobile saves you $5/month on various (maybe all) plans if you set up credit card autopay. I was doing that when I had a prepaid mobile phone, and was down to $5/month overall cost (it charged $15 every 3 months).
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/shop/cell-phones/iPhone4S-16GB-phone/features/#plan [virginmobileusa.com]
Though here's the link I have posted before about even cheaper prepaid plans. I have no idea which if any can be used with
They didn't want to make same mistakes others did. (Score:5, Interesting)
They are moving to a non-subsidized model, which is hot. As it stands you get your iPhone for $200 then end up paying $1400 extra in some cases for an overpriced 2 year contract. I bought my own phone and did this already on T-Mobile, I only pay $30 a month for "unlimited" data (up top 5 gigs at "4g") and 100 minutes of talk time, which is all I need.
Sprint especially made the mistake of just committing to a huge number of iPhones at a staggering price they must now subsidize. Will be interesting to see if people are still willing to pay the True Price for an iPhone (e.g. $600) versus maybe $450 for a high end Android phone.
Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (Score:4, Informative)
Legere mentioned offering the iPhone for $99 and then allowing customers to pay off the rest in monthly increments.
FTFA
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iPhone: $99 up front + $X/month for 24 months + Service Fee
iPhone: $600 up front + Service Fee
Nexus4: $299 up front + service Fee
And yes, I think that will create a significant change in custome
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Plus, once the plan is paid off, your monthly rate goes down. The other carriers don't do that; if you don't jump on the upgrade opportunity as fast as possible, you end up wasting even more continuing to pay as though you still owe money for the phone.
I've been a TMoUS customer for years, and have been happy with them. This makes me more happy. Thank $DIETY AT&T's grubby paws were kept away. My only real concern out of this is that they might end up facing worse network congestion. Right now, it's incr
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When I bought my first Android phone at T-Mobile some years back (MyTouch 3g) I walked in totally ready to buy the phone outright and get on a no contract plan. When I told the sales person that was what I wanted to do, he said "cool" and then went on to say that if I wanted to, I could get the same no contract plan, and finance the phone at 0% interest for 18 or 20 months -- can't recall exactly but something less than 2 years. Obviously that is a better deal even then just buying the phone outright so t
Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (Score:5, Informative)
Wow. In Canada, with Telus, $50 gets 1 gig of data, with the "option" of paying $25 for an extra 2 gigs. And Voicemail is an add-on for another $8 a month.
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And I just signed a 2-year contract for 1G data, some minutes (can't remember) and lots of texts for £6/month. US$10?
Admittedly, it's an awkward deal -- it's really £12/month, with 50% rebated by sending in copies of my bill (about 6 times over the two years), so it takes some time on my part. But I've done it twice before now, and it works.
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12 pounds a month on Giffgaff gives you unlimited data, heaps of free calls and texts and no contract at all.
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>$30 a month for "unlimited" data (up top 5 gigs at "4g")
That's like seeing a hot looking hooker and when you get up close its a tranny. God I love those unlimited up to 5 gigs deals.
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At least the tranny is hot and knows how to please you.
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Up to 5GB at max speed. They'll throttle you back to about 300kbps (still fast enough for music streaming, which is where most of my phone data usage goes) until the end of the month if you go over 5GB on that plan, or so I've heard; my friends who have it say that's never happened to them. I'll probably switch to that plan shortly myself.
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Somebody hasn't heard of the flagship, $300 unlocked, Nexus 4
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That's a great phone and an amazing price. But the Nexus 4 isn't quite comparable to the top of the line phones: iPhone 5, HTC 8X, Lumia 920, Siii,
This chart is a few months out of date but you can see the difference in specs between the phones listed and the Nexus 4: http://www.cultofmac.com/189929/the-iphone-5-how-it-stacks-up-against-the-competition-chart/ [cultofmac.com]
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Uh, how isn't it comparable? The Galaxy S3 does have an external SD and a slightly larger screen. The iPhone has neither. The Nexus 4 has more up-to-date software. If you're on Verizon or Sprint then the fact that the Nexus 4 is not available in CDMA is an issue.
Some complain about the lack of LTE, but at least in the US ATT's LTE service isn't nearly as fast as what the Nexus 4 can deliver by HSPA+. If ATT gets their act together they could in theory do better as LTE is somewhat faster than HSPA+, but
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Straight from Google on the play store [google.com], whenever they get more stock in.
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It might not be 100% as awesome, but at half the price I think you'd have a hard time convincing the average person of that
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Is the Nexus 4 comparable? The 16GB version is $350 off contract. A 16GB iPhone 5 is $650 off contract.
They have similar ppi resolution, Nexus 4 has a bigger screen. iPhone has better battery life.
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All Android phones can do that, and they're treated as normal file systems, as they should be. The problem is that the Nexus 4 does not have a removable SD card. Even though it doesn't advertise it, apparently it does have LTE though. Type in a sequence of characters on the phone and it turns it on. I'm really hoping the next batch still uses the same underlying hardware.
...in the US. (Score:2)
Re:...in the US. (Score:4, Informative)
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Incorrect (Score:3)
T-Mobile doesn't have iPhone in the US because we have a highly fragmented spectrum for cell phones. T-Mobile uses GSM, which is compatible, but in the US it's on an entirely different set of frequencies that the iPhone doesn't support.
That's not correct. T-Mobile uses the 1900 band in the USA and all the iPhones support that fine. It's trivial to find accounts of people with unlocked iPhones who currently use them on T-Mobile in the USA. T-Mobile doesn't have the iPhone in the USA because they were basically unwilling and perhaps unable to pay Apple's exorbitant prices to get permissions to sell it.
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Then how is it that the top-left corner of my iPhone 4s says, “T-Mobile”?
I've had it for over a year. Bought an unlocked phone at an Apple store, stopped at the local T-Mobile store on my way home, oohed and aahed about it with the cute girl while she rummaged in the drawer for a micro-SIM, and made my first call on it in the parking lot before finishing the drive home.
It's with a fantastic pre-paid plan, too. I pay $2 / day on any day that I make even one phone call or transmit even one byte of
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The 1900mhz refarm is to support HSPA+ on the iPhone not 3g.
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iPhones on T-Mobile support 4G just fine, but they don't support 3G. On T-Mobile there aren't that many areas that have 3G but not 4G, so that isn't that big of a deal.
Anybody who wants an iPhone on T-Mobile just needs to get an unsubsidized plan and then go buy one from the Apple store. The resulting TCO will be WAY lower than getting it on ATT. You'll pay an extra $450 up-front for the phone, but you'll save a small fortune every month. The $30 data-only plan is an obvious way to save. On a family pl
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Weird. My son's iPhone 2 and my wife's iPhone 3GS both seemed to work as good as any of my Android based phones on T-Mobile's network in the USA. Am I missing something here?
3G signals for iPhone 4S vs N900 recently improved (Score:2)
A close friend, who uses Tmobile in the SF Bay Area for the Nokia N900, got an iPhone 4S half a year ago. Both phones were bought at the non-subsidized expensive price, unlocked. Where the N900 had been getting 3G signals, in the same location the iPhone 4S would get EDGE only. Siri would be useless. Apparently the iPhone 3G was not on the same frequency as the N900 3G.
That changed about a month ago, where suddenly during the long daily commute up the peninsula (between Silicon Valley and San Francisco)
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T-Mobile abroad and T-Mobile in the USA have little in common other than a brand name. They used to be more related but they have forked.
Moving away from subsidies (Score:4, Insightful)
As a result, they provide their phones with minimal margins because they'll make it up in monthly fees(for the service). I bought my wife a phone with T-Mobile and I was amazed I could get a relatively decent Android phone for $200. Try finding a decent smart phone from another carrier at that price. Also, her plan is flat $50/month with no contract, and unlimited everything. Last time I looked at AT&T, the equivalent plan was $110/month and a similar low-mid-range phone was $450 without a contract
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I fully support your message. I live in Tucson, Az, and recently switched from Sprint to T-mobile.
I am much, much happier with T-mobile than I was with Sprint. The big motivator for me getting a smartphone was the ability to stream Pandora while jogging and biking, but with Sprint, even in wide open outdoors situations in the heart of Tucson, I rarely was able to stream at even the lowest quality settings. Tethering my desktop while inside the house was out of the question. Speedtest.net results typically
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Yup, I switched to their unsubsidized plan a few months ago. If you buy new phones it works out about the same with the monthly phone payments. However, it gives you a LOT more flexibility around phone purchases. I can buy any unlocked GSM phone I want, including an iPhone. I can buy a Nexus 4 for $350. I can keep a phone for 3 years and save more, or I can upgrade a phone every year and sell the old one each time.
Their plans are really cheap too. I'm paying $120/mo for four lines with 2x2GB data plan
Data slurpers (Score:2)
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This was the first thought I had. How long before they can no longer claim to offer "unlimited" data?
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I was bored one day and decided to do some digging on those data overages the cell phone carriers love to charge. $.10/MB seems like a fairly common rate, but what people don't realize is, that works out to about $33,000 per Mbps per month. The amount of
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A certain number of customers (Score:3)
Now I wonder if any of those customers acted like this [youtube.com].
Great! (Score:1)
Now if I could make a phone call longer than two minutes without being dropped...
No Subsidies?! (Score:1)
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They will let you pay it off over the course of two years though.
So the price is really the same just a discount once the phone is paid for.
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1. You can pay a higher down payment to reduce your monthly payment.
2. You can pay off your balance early to reduce your monthly payment.
3. You can upgrade at any time.
Too late... (Score:5, Funny)
The world has moved to Windows Phone.
Building out their system (Score:1)
Frogs jumping over frogs and toads.
T-mobile just happens to have better coverage here.
If you get an unlocked iPhone they can give you edge
coverage. I have started using an old Samsung 3G
phone for voice. Data is WiFi for now but I can tell
you that as soon as I am contract free I will be looking
hard at changing 100% from the A&someting company.
Smart phones are not smart choices for folk that want a
phone
There goes my blazing-fast 4G... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Uh, I was able to voice-dictate on my LAST Android phone, which was two years old...
IDGAF, and you shouldn't either! (Score:1)
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+1 DILLIGAF [urbandictionary.com]
Seriously, since when is this "News for Nerds"... This is just "Marketing for Plebs"
T-Mobile also ending subsidies (Score:1)
T-Mobile is also going to end handset subsidies which translates into everyone paying MSRP for all handsets all the time. The upside of this is that it will kill most handset sales since few of them are even laughably close in value to the full retail price. b
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That is true. But, T-Mobile prices aren't that good to begin with. I switched to their unsubsidized phone, but have not bought any phones through them. There are four phones on my plan:
One was just upgraded to a Nexus 4. I bought it for $350. If I got it from T-Mobile I'd have paid $200 plus around $400 or so over the next 18 months.
One was replaced with an iPhone 4s. Knowing Apple I suspect this one might have benefited from the payment plans as the retail price is likely to be identical when T-Mobil
I'm switching to iOS (Score:2)
Even with Samsung, supposedly a good Android manufacturer, my device hasn't received
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This is the problem that Nexus devices are designed to solve. You get updates directly from Google as soon as they're released; no carrier to get in the way. (Well, unless you're on a CDMA carrier, since they still withhold the signed CDMA drivers. Which is why Google has stopped releasing CDMA versions of Nexus devices).
So buy a Nexus device directly from Google Play, hook it up to an uber-cheap T-Mobile prepaid plan, and you'll be up-to-date for as long as your hardware can physically run the latest versi
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There's one other reason I want to get an iOS device. There's an app called Coaster that's made for iOS and Android. However, the app developer blocked it from Android tablet devices. I don't have a smartphone, just a tablet with data. The app will work on an iPad Mini, but even after I tried to hack my tablet to run smartphone-only software, it refused to install. I tried contacting the developer to no avail. So yes, apps ar
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I have gotten 4.1 and 4.2 basically the day it was released on my Galaxy Nexus, and any updates same (4.2.1 currently). Rox. T-Mobile prepaid. Rox. Don't see why I would go with anything else, ever; half price of iPhone, half price for service, does everything I need it to.
App for everything. I'm sure there are corner cases, but I don't need paper maps, a GPS, flashlight, camera, laptop (for travelling anyway...), or a music player, in addition to a phone, anymore.
andy
LTE swtich chaos..no thanks (Score:1)
No, they did not work hard for this deal (Score:2)
TMO decided to stop subsidizing phones in 2013, making Value Plans the norm and letting us see the true cost.
In that scenario. This is easy.
Good, now bring the AT&T bands over. (Score:2)
They've talked plenty about refarming over the AT&T(1900 HSPA+) bands, but not many places have been converted.
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I actually own both an iPhone 5 and an S3. I've had 4 iPhones, and purchased the S3 b/c I wanted a test phone for mobile development. My plan: I'll make whatever seems the better phone my primary line.
My opinion: the S3 seems to be a superior phone. However, there are some really top notch apps on iOS, and I'm finding poor substitutes so far on Google Play (both free and paid). (TweetBot, Things, Downcast, and OmniFocus come to mind) Some of the "same" apps available on both are very poor on Android. Some o
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What I've noticed about most iPhone/Android comparisons is that people will present minor features that most users will never touch as their reasons for their preferred device being "superior".
How about platform openness? Just sayin' ...
Seriously, though. The reason I went with Android rather than iPhone back in the day was because Apple made it so difficult to jailbreak their new devices. With a Nexus phone, rooting and installing a custom ROM is actively encouraged by Google. For someone who loves coding like myself, it's a no-brainer.
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How about platform openness? Just sayin' ...
For 99% of the population, who gives a poop about platform openness? when it comes to my phone, all I care about is whether it runs the apps I want. While yes, I could program for my phone, I don't have time or the inclination to do so. In fact, the lack of openness probably keeps some of the riffraff out by presenting a slightly higher barrier to entry.
The fact of the matter is that from a usability perspective ,a lot of open source software simply sucks. I've been running linux since 1997, and except f
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In fact, the lack of openness probably keeps some of the riffraff out by presenting a slightly higher barrier to entry.
Wow. I really have no idea how to respond to that, except to say that I never thought anyone on /. would want to actively discourage people from coding. Extraordinary.
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It will be even longer if people keep starting with an iOS app and port it too closely for Android. The reduced number of controls on iPhones mean a few more compromises must made in navigation, and those should be removed, as Android users generally aren't used to them, and they waste screen real-estate. You really need to take the available controls into account when developing the UI, and many to a quick port without doing that. I have a couple of apps that are barely usable because of it.
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Yep, that's one of my pet peeves. A "Back" button up on the top left and a title bar using up 5% of the screen is the usual giveaway. There's a dedicated back button on every Android handset FFS!
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Or even by country. I have an HTC G2 which runs stock android, but it is sold outside the US as the HTC Desire Z with the HTC Sense installed.
Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (Score:4, Interesting)
I just bought an iPhone 4S for use on a prepaid plan and found the experience to be very different, that is, much better than the Macbook.
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I'd love to get a MacBook (and run Debian/KDE on it). Those new screens are quite nice. If Apple would allow people to install software from alternate sources and stop with the proprietary connectors and frivolous lawsuits, I might be willing to shell out the cash for one.
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...stop with the proprietory connectors
I think those days are mostly counted, the current MBP has USB 3, HDMI, SDXC card and Thunderbolt connectors, of which you may count the Thunderbolt one as proprietary, but all its rights belong to Intel, not Apple. And as "Internal Modem" has mentioned, you of course can install on a Mac whatever you want. The Mac App Store is not really good anyway.
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I'm not talking about Macs here ... they're not the ones pushing the industry in a bad direct (yet). On the contrary, I think all laptops should have screens like that available. Unfortunately, they're made by the same company that make the iOS 'eco-system', and that part makes them most of their money. I can't in good conscience reward them for their laptops when they seem hell-bent on talking away people's rights to use their own devices as they please. I think the end of openness for th Mac is coming as
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... and iCloud.
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I'm pretty sure that only applications from their market can integrate with iCloud.
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Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (Score:4, Informative)
You should probably be aware that you can use Android without any connections to Google at all, despite the FUD. Also, Android is not your only other option.
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Yes, I can also write my own PIM and POOM applications and build my own cloud. I'm talking about practicality here, not what's physically possible.
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Yeah, but for the android device, its as simple as selecting "skip" when asked to log into google, then installing an alternative app market of your choice through the web browser. Oh, you might have to enable installing apps from other sources, a simple tick in the settings.
Hardly the same thing.
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Re:as long as they dont merge (Score:4, Insightful)
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It's funny, because you're exactly backward. T-Mobile is dropping subsidized contract plans altogether. Instead, all plans will be month-to-month (even on iPhones) and when you buy a new phone, you'll have the option of paying full retail price or putting it on a payment plan that is added to your monthly bill until the loan is paid off. A much better system all around than the other big carriers, and one that I'm pleased to see T-Mobile is able to take even with the iPhone (not that I have any interest in
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The individual rate for unlimited is $50/month. I'd expect you can wrangle a better deal when it's a group rate.