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Apple Claims New Infringement After Being Ordered To Tell Samsung HTC Secrets 287

Posted by samzenpus
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An anonymous reader writes "Ordered to tell Samsung all of the company's HTC secrets, Apple throws a tantrum and adds a bunch of new products to the never-ending list of products Samsung has infringed on. Apple's tantrum stems from a ruling on Thursday that could have a large effect on the Apple lawsuit. The Apple lawsuit, which was filed in February, alleges that Samsung violated Apple patents related to user interface, technology and style. The first decision was found in favor of Apple to the tune of $1 billion, but Samsung is trying to get that ruling thrown out. But as the Apple lawsuit has gone on, the Apple lawsuit has gotten fiercer, and because of a ruling on Thursday, Apple throws a tantrum and is trying to add even more products into the lawsuit."
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Apple Claims New Infringement After Being Ordered To Tell Samsung HTC Secrets

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  • Tantrum? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by whisper_jeff (680366) on Monday November 26, 2012 @01:59PM (#42095689)

    Biased summary much?

    Any value Slashdot once had as a source for tech news is entirely gone now. Sensationalistic crap for the win.

    Meh.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Steve Jobs was well known for throwing tantrums. I fail to see how this is not a suitable word. He may be gone, but his legal team is still carrying on his maniacal vendetta against Android.

      • Re:Tantrum? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by muuh-gnu (894733) on Monday November 26, 2012 @03:20PM (#42096637)

        > his legal team is still carrying on his maniacal vendetta

        To complete your statement with direct quotes:

        • "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong,"
        • "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
        • "I don't want your money. (...) I've got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want."

        Apple has built such a Fuehrer cult around Jobs, that they now have to realize his last wish even if it greatly harms them, or risk admitting that he was crazy, at least with regard to his irrational hate for Google.

    • There was no tantrum, just a web sites 'report'. Samsung must've thrown a tantrum to get the iPhone 5 added

      http://allthingsd.com/20121123/samsung-wants-ipad-mini-added-to-apple-suit/ [allthingsd.com]

      Then another to go after the other devices?

      No of course not. Come on /. You're trolling your own readers now

    • by whoever57 (658626)

      Biased summary much?

      In this case, biased article perhaps, but not biased summary. The article (TFA) title uses the word "tantrum", so actually, the summary tones down the sensationalist phrasing.

      • by ktappe (747125)

        Biased summary much?

        In this case, biased article perhaps, but not biased summary. The article (TFA) title uses the word "tantrum", so actually, the summary tones down the sensationalist phrasing.

        But the summary did not have to use the "tantrum" weasel word. Further, OP didn't have to cite a biased article; there were hundreds to choose from that didn't call it a "tantrum".

    • Re:Tantrum? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by sl3xd (111641) on Monday November 26, 2012 @03:12PM (#42096545) Journal

      I care far less about whether the summary is biased than I care that the summary is horrible.

      Apple throws a tantrum and adds a bunch of new products to the never-ending list of products Samsung has infringed on... because of a ruling on Thursday, Apple throws a tantrum and is trying to add even more products into the lawsuit

      Here's a tip: Repeating bad grammar doesn't improve it; repeating bad grammar in what should be a summary is both embarrassing and redundant.

    • by MrHanky (141717)

      ...entirely gone? Slashdot has always had wildly inaccurate summaries. You were always better off ignoring it, with a better summary usually showing up in the fourth or fifth top level comment, after wading through a sea of tripe based on the sensationalist, poorly spelt and edited bullshit put on the front page.

      This summary is just slightly below par for a site with a long tradition for getting almost everything wrong.

    • Re:Tantrum? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Bob9113 (14996) on Monday November 26, 2012 @03:21PM (#42096655) Homepage

      Biased summary much?

      Any value Slashdot once had as a source for tech news is entirely gone now.

      You're doing it wrong. The value of Slashdot is not in the flawed and often biased summaries, it is in the discussions. And it is not in the majority of discussion comments that you find fault with, it is in the rare gems that make you think. You have to work for it. Facile criticism is moderately useful in chastening fan-bois and -grrls, but you could be getting more, and giving more, if you tried.

      The real magic of Slashdot is on the other side of the pen. When you start doing some real analysis and putting your rich and well-formed thoughts out there, that's when it really starts to shine. It's tough; you will have to suffer shallow potshots from armchair critics, but you will get a thousand times more upside from those few people who constructively explore a subtle flaw in your perception. Those people give you the opportunity to improve your world view. What you gain by putting a more substantive post out there, facing the slings and arrows, and evolving your hypotheses to subsume an ever more accuate picture of reality is truly extraordinary.

      I've looked through your posts. Once you get past the daggers you have a lot to add. You have more to give than cheap shots at easy targets.

      • The sole reason I continue coming back is because of exactly the comments and conversations you're talking about. Hidden amongst the inane are some exceptionally insightful and informative posts that help inform me. Unfortunately, they're getting drowned in a sea of biased nerd-rage. Worse is when I see article summaries with such a blatant bias, where no hint of an attempt is made to hide the bias. That only serves to drive away thoughtful commenters and distract from a conversation I might otherwise be in

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by erroneus (253617)

      Apple's plans are unraveling fast. While thier initial actions were very successful, the cases brought by Apple were getting increasing amounts of criticism and I have little doubt that judges are well aware of that sort of thing because to rule in Apple's favor while public attention is focused on it is causing what might have been a casual trouncing by Apple into a careful application of jurisprudence.

      The $1B judgement against Samsung is unquestionably going to get tossed for a variety of reasons. Firstl

      • by Nerdfest (867930)

        Apple is also successful because they build decent hardware, but moreso, because ecery news and tech site also advertises for them without charge. Because of this, their misbehaviour and general dickishness will also be broadcast more than with otehr companies that don't get the free advertising. It will eventually catch up with them. The sad part is that all they really need to do is stop suing and start competing again. They're not gaining fans with their current behaviour, they're losing them.

      • They essentially rendered a judgement based on nonsense and a complete failure to understand the material.

        All juries do this. Laypeople are too incompetent to decide just about anything.

        Apple's image is being tarnished through all of this for a wide variety of reasons.

        I'd say the biggest threat to Apple isn't image per-se; it's the commoditization of its key profit centers: smartphones and tablets. With Google selling zero-margin products at unbelievable prices, all players will be forced into a zero-marg

        • by erroneus (253617)

          In short, Apple will need to do something for "free" in order to compete and remain relevant. I agree with this. Apple will not agree with this. They have always capitalized on their "elite" and expensive image. This has served them well, but has also relegated them into a niche market mode. Apple tried to allow clones, but they couldn't deal with people making things better. So they resorted to heavy litigation.

          Throughout, Apple has been a fairly litigious company. They make something and then they

  • by Sponge Bath (413667) on Monday November 26, 2012 @02:00PM (#42095695)

    FTA: "So, most likely in response to that judge's ruling..."

    No evidence, no reasoning, just one persons unsubstantiated opinion that these two items are connected. Combine that will biased language like "tantrum" and you get a content free piece of click bait. Congratulations.

  • by Trepidity (597) <delirium-slashdo ... org minus author> on Monday November 26, 2012 @02:00PM (#42095705)

    What is actually happening can probably be better summarized something like this: highly paid legal teams in huge patent lawsuit continue to jockey for position with miscellaneous legal moves.

    • or more like:
      highly paid legal teams in huge patent lawsuit continue to jockey for to extend the case and their own paychecks.

  • by Captain_Chaos (103843) on Monday November 26, 2012 @02:07PM (#42095799)
    Are you trying to say that Apple threw a tantrum?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Well, if Apple thinks their frivolous lawsuits will win them new customers or get old customers back, they'll be in for a surprise in 5-10 years from now.

    • by anagama (611277)

      This is fairly true.

      I've used mac laptops for 7 or 8 years and my office uses macs too for all user positions. What I personally like most is that X11 forwarding over SSH is totally straightforward and the command line tools I'm used to work great. Add to that headache free Netflix streaming and I readily admit that I've found my mac systems to be both enjoyable and productive.

      But I feel pretty bitter toward Apple because of these lawsuits. So when my wife said she wouldn't mind a tablet for Christmas, I

  • I don't believe this article made it through whatever review process slashdot uses to decide if a story should be posted or not.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    The slashdot of today is a pale comparison of the slashdot of 3-5 years ago.
    Back then it was worth reading daily, there were well thought out, reasoned, and articulated articles.
    Now its become a place I come to once a week, and seeing articles like this piece of crap makes me wonder if that is too often.

    Bye slashdot, I will remember your good days fondly and are deeply saddened at what you have become.
    I guess you can take solace in knowing digg beat you there.

    • The slashdot of today is a pale comparison of the slashdot of 3-5 years ago.

      Slashdot of 3-5 years ago pales in comparison of the Slashdot of 12-10 years ago.

  • The louder one screams out against something, the less secure they feel.

    You're shooting yourselves in the foot here, Apple. If you were truly the winner in this case, you wouldn't have any problem just playing the game and staying cool about it. Now you've raised eyebrows...

    • by ktappe (747125)

      The louder one screams out against something, the less secure they feel.

      You're shooting yourselves in the foot here, Apple. If you were truly the winner in this case, you wouldn't have any problem just playing the game and staying cool about it. Now you've raised eyebrows...

      Read more about the actual case. Samsung added devices after the HTC agreement; Apple has to counter to keep up. It sure is interesting how you are singling out Apple when it is very clear in this case that it takes two to tango.

      • The louder one screams out against something, the less secure they feel.

        You're shooting yourselves in the foot here, Apple. If you were truly the winner in this case, you wouldn't have any problem just playing the game and staying cool about it. Now you've raised eyebrows...

        Read more about the actual case. Samsung added devices after the HTC agreement; Apple has to counter to keep up. It sure is interesting how you are singling out Apple when it is very clear in this case that it takes two to tango.

        FTR, I didn't single out Apple for any reason sited in the case. I singled them out for being the ones to make the most noise. Red flag.

  • Anyone else (Score:5, Funny)

    by Progman3K (515744) on Monday November 26, 2012 @02:29PM (#42096009)

    Getting goosebumps at all the innovation this is spurring?

  • Did this story just disappear off the Slashdot homepage? I didn't know that could happen...
  • Samsung and Apple are going MAD (mutually assured destruction). Bottom line is after this is all said and done there will be such a high cost premiums for Apple or Samsung devices to pay each other's royalties that pretty much Microsoft will walk in offering cheap Windows 8 phones that will flood the market.

    Microsoft's saving grace is that nobody wants to copy their ugly shit.

  • Where is this escalation going to end?

    Can we somehow resurrect Nixon, and reactivate Kissinger, and get some SALT talks going between Apple and Samsung?

    Yes, folks, it's come to, "Nixon now, more than ever!"

    • See, they did it wrong; They should have gone with MAD,GS, then we'd all love it. (Come on, you know what it stands for...)

      Dress classy, litigate cheesy, my friend. ;-)

  • I'm not an Apple lover by any stretch, but any time I see such a skewed summary or article, I tend to ignore it. Wouldn't it be better to just say that Apple added several more Samsung devices to ongoing patent litigation?

  • by HalAtWork (926717) on Monday November 26, 2012 @03:15PM (#42096567)

    Apple throws a tantrum and adds a bunch of new products to the never-ending list of products

    Great sentence there...

    Apple's tantrum stems from a ruling on Thursday

    There's that word again...

    ...but Samsung is trying to get that ruling thrown out. But as the Apple lawsuit has gone on...

    Sounds like babbling.

    and because of a ruling on Thursday, Apple throws a tantrum and is trying to add even more products into the lawsuit

    Holy shit, didn't you already say that a few sentences ago?

  • All the posturing about "defensive" patents is now gone, the patent war is on in full force. The only thing left to do now is to wait and see how much damage the tech sector needs to take before we outlaw all these fucking software (and even worse, business method) patents.

    Will we be left with a technological innovation wasteland?

    Is it wrong for me to hope that Samsung gets an injunction on the iPhone and iPad at the same time that Apple gets an injunction on the Galaxy and Galaxy Tab? How about six month

  • Apple wasn't ordered to tell Samsung all of the company's HTC secrets (i.e., the HTC settlement agreement).

    They were ordered to hand the HTC settlement agreement over to Samsung's lawyers only (i.e., "Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only").

    There's a difference.

    • Apple wasn't ordered to tell Samsung all of the company's HTC secrets (i.e., the HTC settlement agreement).

      They were ordered to hand the HTC settlement agreement over to Samsung's lawyers only (i.e., "Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only").

      Yea, kind of like how political candidates can't directly influence the spending of SuperPACs, but they can have a staff member directly under their aegis, who also happens to influence the aforementioned SuperPAC.

      There's a difference.

      Said difference being transparency and accountability.

      One hand washes the other. Meanwhile, consumers get drenched by the runoff.

  • "Nobody wants a stylus."

    Once again they add a device whose primary raison d'etre is a stylus.
    Before it was the Galaxy Note 10.1, now it is the Galaxy Note 2.

    Apple must be selling their iShit with hidden wacom styl, to be claiming these copy Apples crap.

  • Oh, come on... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Theaetetus (590071) <<theaetetus.slashdot> <at> <gmail.com>> on Monday November 26, 2012 @04:03PM (#42097115) Homepage Journal
    4 days ago when Samsung did the same thing [slashdot.org], it was "Korean electronics giant Samsung has added three new Apple products to the list of products that the company claims infringes on its patents." But when it's the other side, suddenly, it's "Apple throws a tantrum"? Both articles were yours... Bit of a bias there, Samsungzenpus?
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