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UK Court Sanctions Apple For Non-Compliance 217

Posted by Soulskill
from the hope-it-was-worth-it dept.
drinkypoo writes "We've been following the story that Apple was ordered by a UK court to post an apology to Samsung both in newspapers and on Apple's UK website. After originally posting a non-apology and then hiding a real one, Apple finally complied. Now, PJ over at Groklaw reports on the ruling from the UK court itself, which condemns Apple's conduct in this matter. 'Since Apple did not comply with the order in its estimation, adding materials that were not ordered and in addition were "false," the judges ordered Apple to pay Samsung's lawyers' fees on an indemnity basis, and they add some public humiliation.' The judge wrote, 'Finally I should mention the time for compliance. Mr Beloff, on instructions (presumably given with the authority of Apple) told us that "for technical reasons" Apple needed fourteen days to comply. I found that very disturbing: that it was beyond the technical abilities of Apple to make the minor changes required to own website in less time beggared belief. ... I hope that the lack of integrity involved in this incident is entirely atypical of Apple.'"
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UK Court Sanctions Apple For Non-Compliance

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  • by wierd_w (1375923) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @11:37AM (#41942475)

    Cue the apple fanbois and their out of control apologetics.
    This story just wouldnt be complete without their sqealing.

    On a more serious note, I agree with the judge. This kind of change could have been implemented in less than one day. Apple probably just wanted more time to try to wrangle some legal way out of putting the directed message on their website in the manner proscribed.

    You know what they say-- Tell a lie enough times, and you will begin to believe it yourself. That's the danger of using an RDF.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10, 2012 @12:14PM (#41942729)

      On a more serious note, I agree with the judge. This kind of change could have been implemented in less than one day

      Bullshit.

      Their web design team is forced to use iPads.

  • The UK judge (Score:5, Interesting)

    by santax (1541065) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @11:40AM (#41942487)
    Should force Apple to remove it's homepage with one the Judge himself sees fit. I imagine scaled fonts up to size 340 that tell everyone: HI WE ARE BASTARDS AND LIED AND LOST ABOUT IT IN COURT. SAMSUNG PRODUCTS ACTUALLY ARE MORE VALUE FOR THE MONEY. Something like that. Just to make an example that you don't fuck with a court-ruling. Because what Apple did and still is doing (scrolling to see the court-ruling) is pissing on our all. Our laws, fairness, and rights. Apple is pissing on them and no-one in their right mind should accept that. Especially not a judge. Now fanbois, go ahead. Mod me down, but you know it won't make the truth go away.
  • by speardane (905475) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @11:40AM (#41942491)
    not too be in more serious trouble for contempt of court
    • by jkrise (535370) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @12:20PM (#41942783) Journal

      I think the judge has not yet said the final word. This sanction is only for the delayed newspaper ads and the non-compliant website ad. When they find the message in the UK homepage is specially designed to make the message invisible except after scrolling; the judge might impose more sanctions and maybe even fines. The subsequent javascript edit does not hide the fact that the UK page is differently designed compared to other pages.Apple's mischief has not stopped, yet...

      • by jo_ham (604554)

        I think the judge has not yet said the final word. This sanction is only for the delayed newspaper ads and the non-compliant website ad. When they find the message in the UK homepage is specially designed to make the message invisible except after scrolling; the judge might impose more sanctions and maybe even fines. The subsequent javascript edit does not hide the fact that the UK page is differently designed compared to other pages.Apple's mischief has not stopped, yet...

        It doesn't do that any more. Apple took out the JS code that makes that happen. Now it's just underneath their other homepage material, but you have to scroll to see it if your monitor is too small. If you have a giant monitor and plenty of space it is visible without scrolling. I guess someone gave them a kick up the ass and told them to just stop messing around with it and just get it over and done with.

    • by pnot (96038) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @06:00PM (#41945529)

      Seriously, if I were the judge I'd just up the stakes at this point. Something along the lines of

      "You have proven yourselves incapable of modifying the front page of your website in compliance with the court order. To avoid any further misunderstandings or evasions, we are providing this 800x1200px PNG containing the exact text we wish you to display. Your site shall serve this up as the only content of the front page for the next week, or we'll begin seizing assets.

      ... oh, and it's in Comic Sans."

  • by hessian (467078) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @11:45AM (#41942535) Homepage Journal

    When companies get big, they become a type of clique. Since so many people have to be on-board for any one thing to get done, the company controls them with a kind of dogma or culture.

    This reinforces an us-them mentality even where it doesn't need to exist.

    As a result, the companies get arrogant not so much from their CEOs, but from the rank and file. That then spreads upward. They have become victims of their own propaganda.

    This is why these "too big to fail" companies tend to blow out on obvious issues like this. Did they really just defy a sitting court? How stupid do you have to be to do that?

    Their lawyers must be apoplectic. Or just carefully filling out their bills.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10, 2012 @12:11PM (#41942717)

    Apple has always treated the world, including its own customers, from a superiority position. Apple is all knowing. Apple doesn't follow standards or rules. Apple always knows best and can do no wrong.

    So why did anyone expect for Apple to behave differently this time? Arogance is a core value of their corporate culture and its only got stronger since their cash flow surged.

    I will be enormously happy when this tumor of a company will die off.

  • Nice work, Soulskill (Score:4, Interesting)

    by drinkypoo (153816) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Saturday November 10, 2012 @12:29PM (#41942859) Homepage Journal

    I didn't write my submission nearly so elegantly, nor with proper inline links. Now that is what I call editing.

    • by ais523 (1172701)
      Slashdot's community has a habit of picking on the editors whenever they do a sloppy job. It's nice to see them complemented when they do it properly.
      • by drinkypoo (153816)

        Slashdot's community has a habit of picking on the editors whenever they do a sloppy job. It's nice to see them complemented when they do it properly.

        I, for one, have frequently picked on the editors, and I feel it is only fair that I applaud them when they do an excellent job. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to come up as often as the converse ;)

  • by ryzvonusef (1151717) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @01:56PM (#41943587) Journal

    If you are going to apologise, apologise with dignity, damn it!

    Dear Apple, learn a lesson from Michael McCain, the CEO of the Canadian food company Maple Leaf Food.

    In 2008, there was an outbreak [1] of Listeriosis, which was linked to Maple Leaf products.

    What did Mccain do? To quote [2] from The Globe and Mail (a Canadian newspaper of record):

    First, it admitted it was the company's fault. It admitted it was responsible. It said, in essence, "it's our fault and we're going to fix it."

    Second, Maple Leaf apologized. It wasn't "wordsmithed" or spin-doctored to deny culpability. The company didn't dodge the issue. It apologized up front in every possible media.

    Third, it didn't hire a celebrity to deliver the apology, or a blonde actress with very white teeth wearing a lab coat. CEO Michael McCain was the voice and the face of the crisis, and of the apology.

    Fourth, once Maple Leaf realized the problem was the company's fault, it acted decisively, and transparently. It recalled more than 200 packaged meat brands (amounting to tens of thousands of individual packages) that were manufactured or packaged at the affected plant.

    Which brings me to one of the best quotes about using (or not using) lawyers. CEO Michael McCain said in his apology on TV and on YouTube[3]: "Going through the crisis there are two advisers I've paid no attention to. The first are the lawyers, and the second are the accountants. It's not about money or legal liability; this is about our being accountable for providing consumers with safe food. This is a terrible tragedy. To those people who have become ill, and to the families who have lost loved ones, I want to express my deepest and most sincere sympathies. Words cannot begin to express our sadness for your pain."

    (bolded by me)

    I am not saying this let's MLF off the hook, but darn it, when it came to apologising, they didn't mince their words.

    Dear Apple, just shut and apologise, and get over it already. MLF did it and got over it, so can you.

    [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_Leaf_Foods#Canadian_Food_Inspection_Agency_recall [wikipedia.org]
    [2]: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/small-business/sb-growth/the-best-legal-advice-is-often-an-apology/article626797/ [theglobeandmail.com]
    [3]: (original link in article wasn't working, here is an alternative) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSrazdNo55U [youtube.com]

  • by slashmydots (2189826) on Saturday November 10, 2012 @06:20PM (#41945663)

    I hope that the lack of integrity involved in this incident is entirely atypical of Apple.'"

    NOOOOOOPE!!!!!!!!!

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