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Galaxy Tab Sales Ban Lifted, Samsung Sues Apple Over iPhone 5 196

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another random user sends this quote from the BBC: "A temporary sales ban on Samsung Electronics' Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet computer in the U.S. has been lifted by a U.S. court. District Judge Lucy Koh gave a court order rescinding a ban on U.S. sales that was part of a patent dispute with Apple. ... The ban on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 had been placed before a month-long patent trial between Apple and Samsung. In August, at the conclusion of that trial Apple was awarded a victory on many of its patent violation claims where it said Samsung had copied Apple's iPhone and iPad designs. It was also awarded more than $1bn (£664m) in damages. However, the jury found that Samsung had not violated the patent that was the basis for the ban on the sale of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Samsung, therefore, argued for the sales ban to be lifted." Samsung also went on the offensive against the iPhone 5 today, filing a motion to add the device to its ongoing patent infringement suit against Apple. Meanwhile, on another front, some good news for Apple: Motorola Mobility, owned by Google, has withdrawn its second complaint against Apple to the ITC. The complaint was filed in August over patent infringement claims involving several minor features. No explanation has been provided for the withdrawal, but Google indicated there was no agreement between the companies.
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Galaxy Tab Sales Ban Lifted, Samsung Sues Apple Over iPhone 5

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  • by zlives (2009072) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @02:51PM (#41529131)

    i am going back to BB

    • by Alter_3d (948458)
      Bonzybuddy is making smartphones?

      Damn, my head hurts just to think about it..
    • by jd2112 (1535857) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @04:59PM (#41530807)

      i am going back to BB

      Yay! They have a customer this month!

      • Re:screw you guys... (Score:4, Interesting)

        by narcc (412956) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @05:27PM (#41531209) Journal

        They're doing fine. They outperformed expectations last quarter, and their user-base continues to grow. (I know that a bullshit article on slashdot a week or so ago made a different claim, but it was pitifully wrong.) Not bad for a company that hasn't released a new flagship phone for nearly a year.

        From what we've seen, BB10 is nothing short of amazing. Even their current OS7 phones (though about a year old) are very slick and compelling -- the 9900 is a real workhorse. For those that need to do actual work on our phones, it's hard to beat. Even the RIM hating reviewers gave it high-praise.

        It's not a bad move. Unless you use your smartphone to do nothing but play games, a BlackBerry is a fantastic choice. With BB10, it's going to be really difficult to find a reason to stick with iOS or Android -- even Windows 8 is an attractive alternative. I don't see Android and iOS maintaining the lead over the next few years.

        • Yup, losing less and less money, with no debt, their share price will go double digit before the end of the year for sure.

          • Re:screw you guys... (Score:4, Informative)

            by narcc (412956) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @06:47PM (#41531981) Journal

            I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Though a double-digit share price by the end of the year seems unrealistic, with their new products not expected until January.

            They are debt free and have increased their cash reserves. (Interesting note, cash reserves increased by nearly the amount of their reported losses.) They have a fantastic set of new products and a clear launch strategy.

            I know the meme is that they have no customers (even though they've consistently gained many more customers than they've lost quarter after quarter) and they're dying (even though they've only posted two losses post iPhone, the second being much smaller than the first) and that they're selling the same phone virtually unchanged since 2005 (which is laughably false). Reality, however, doesn't fit the narrative. They have, without question, the most advanced and capable mobile OS on the planet. While subjective, their UI is brilliant and represents a dramatic departure from both their own history and from the current market leaders in very positive ways (they're inventing the future of mobile computing). Just the gesture suite alone is leagues ahead of iOS.

            In short, they're hardly dying, their new products are impressive, and they have a clear plan moving forward.

            No, they won't be in the double digits this year, but 2013 looks to be a very good year for RIM.

            • by Xest (935314)

              Yes, their userbase has been growing, but in proportion to the growth of the overall smartphone market it's been a relative decline, and that is why although their userbase is growing, their marketshare is shrinking. So say the market is originally 1000 users in size, and RIM owns what, to make it easy, let's say 10% of that - 100 users, then the market grows by another 10% (100 users) and RIM gain 5 of those new users then yes, they now have 105 users instead of 100, but their share of the market has decli

              • by zlives (2009072)

                +1 insightful
                "they're a player that people shouldn't ignore." along with the rest of your comment. I am a BB and recently droid user, and if the BB10 is anything like the videos online, i can switch back in a hear beat. I loved the way the interface was designed around phone communication (hmmm a phone designed for phone use!!) i could start typing numbers(/characters) from any screen and BB realized that it is a phone first... simple things like that. They did drop the ball but hopefully they are humbled e

        • by morcego (260031)

          They outperformed expectations last quarter

          If they managed a single sale, they outperformed expectations ...

        • by mrops (927562)

          Surprizingly I agree, I had the opportunity to play with some of the new prototypes given to developers and was really impressed. Having said that, it didn't seem like anything new except for a few interesting gestures to do stuff, but I would definitely say they caught up to the market. I do like the 9900 but just putting off from getting one in hopes of getting a BB10.Further, I find the new personal/corporate modes or whatever they call it interesting (the dev prototype didn't have this). Next year is go

          • by zlives (2009072)

            "personal/corporate modes or whatever they call it interesting" this is actually awesome from a BYOD stand point... I no longer would have to remote wipe a user device just to maintain corporate policy...

  • Boooooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiinnnnnng.
    • by mcgrew (92797) *

      So why did you click the link?

      • Probably to say... Boooooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiinnnnnng

  • by The Last Gunslinger (827632) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @02:52PM (#41529151)
    By copying Apple's well-established business process of suing their competitors for trademark and patent infringement, Samsung is clearly guilty of infringement.

    (sound of recursive cranial implosion here)
  • Just make it stop.

    • Why? I'm rather enjoying this clash of the titans, and sort of expecting robocop to start drilling execs before too long.

      • by gmhowell (26755)

        Why? I'm rather enjoying this clash of the titans, and sort of expecting robocop to start drilling execs before too long.

        I'll buy that for a dollar.

  • by Wovel (964431)

    He hearing is scheduled to begin shortly before the iPhone 5 becomes the "free" phone. These lawsuits are bizarre.

  • by GReaToaK_2000 (217386) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @03:15PM (#41529445)

    Only now it's mutually assured destruction via patent law.

    The only winners are lawyers, judges and monopolies.

    The rest of us suffer the wounds and sores of stagnating technology and lack of innovation.

    I knew I should have studied to be lawyer.

    Sigh.

  • by CimmerianX (2478270) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @03:23PM (#41529531)
    We need some brave and fatalistic politicians to finally revamp the entire patent system. When someone was able to patent a PB&J with the crusts cut off, for me, that's when this whole thing jumped the shark.
  • by TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @03:46PM (#41529811)

    If Samsung's claims are legit then they should pursue this as fully as possible.

    Apple has created a hostile market that inhibits innovation by suing anybody with anything that resembles Apple's IP. While Samsung obviously lifted some design cues from iPhone, overall I don't think anything Samsung has done would make an Apple iPhone user switch over to a Samsung Android phone, so I thought the Apple lawsuit was petty and vindictive. Apple is doing a better job of moving people to Android then Samsung is capable of. Apple has to realize that there are at least 3 to 1 people that hate Apple and everything they do which means that Android will ALWAYS be a larger platform than Apple, just like Windows was always a larger platform than Mac. Apple never cared when Microsoft lifted UI designs, so why should they care when Samsung does the same thing.

    So, if Samsung has valid claims then Apple should get a taste of their own medicine. Banning iPhone 5 sales, even for a few days during the holiday season would be a big blow to Apple, and if Samsung's claims are found justified and Apple has also infringed on other people's patents, then maybe people will wake up and see Apple for what they are.

    However I have the distinct feeling that Samsung's claims are thin and flimsy and more out of spite and pettiness. I fully support legal action where it's justified, but the arguments between two petulant parties does nobody any good.

  • by djl4570 (801529) on Tuesday October 02, 2012 @04:10PM (#41530089) Journal
    I wonder how this patent swarm compares to the sewing machine patent swarm. Probably worse because the sewing machine compaines never thought about patenting things like rounded corners.

    Opera/9.80 (Android 3.2; Linux; Opera Tablet/ADR-1207201819; U; en) Presto/2.10.254 Version/12.00
    • Talking about rounded corners, Samsung should just make 2 models. One with rounded corners, and one without rounded corners.
      Then, on their website they should let you "design" your own phone.
      This then shifts liability to the end-user, turning this entire thing into a non-issue.

  • by lennier1 (264730)

    Just nuke the patent system sky high and put all patent lawyers against the wall. By now that's probably the only way to ever get out of this fucking mess.

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