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Apple Wants Another $707 Million From Samsung 316

Posted by timothy
from the as-do-we-all dept.
angry tapir writes "A California jury may have awarded Apple more than US$1 billion in damages in late August when it triumphed over Samsung in a hard-fought case over smartphone and tablet patents, but the iPhone maker is coming back for more: late last week it asked for additional damages of $707 million. The request includes an enhanced award of $535 million for willful violation of Apple's designs and patents, as well as about $172 million in supplemental damages based on the fact that the original damages were calculated on Samsung's sales through June 30."
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Apple Wants Another $707 Million From Samsung

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  • by robbak (775424) on Monday September 24, 2012 @05:32AM (#41434539) Homepage

    http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120922171505170 [groklaw.net]

    The real news is Samsung's motion for JMOL or a new trial. This verdict is hopelessly inconsistent and compromised - the statements made by the jury foreman are hard to believe! - that there is no chance of it standing. If sane, Apple would admit that, argue that the verdict should be tossed in it's entirety, so the important points in Samsung's favor are lost as well, and keep it's powder dry for round 2. I'm not holding my breath for that, as they have shown a willingness to argue that the sky is green from day 1.

  • by Torinir (870836) <torinir.gmail@com> on Monday September 24, 2012 @05:32AM (#41434541) Homepage Journal

    Apple might have a hard time asking for more money from that judgment when Samsung has valid claims which could lead to a retrial.

    http://www.groklaw.net/pdf4/ApplevSamsung-1990Samsung50and59motions.pdf [groklaw.net]

    Of note: the table of references point to cases of jury misconduct, even though the arguments by Samsung were redacted. Bet on this judgment being tossed out fast.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 24, 2012 @06:12AM (#41434677)

    i used to tell the army of people who ask nerds for advice on purchases to just buy apple because then i wouldnt have to rid them of spyware later. now that apple has taken the douche crown from microsoft, and microsoft has taken the oblivious crown from Sun, and oracle pulled an HP/Compaq/DEC on Sun, and ubuntu started bundling adware, and redhat is no longer relevant... and i intentionally have to break english grammatical protocol to emphasize each element in this never ending list in an annoying attempt to illuminate the lunacy....

    now i tell people to buy an offbrand machine and install freebsd. im hoping theyll think im crazy and take their windows machines to geeksquad instead.

    i never liked apple much, but they did loosely base their product on unix-like technology with a slick gui, so although ive never baught an apple product i did recommend them to others. no more. you just lost a couple hundred customers. self pwnage FTL.

  • by Drakonblayde (871676) on Monday September 24, 2012 @07:05AM (#41434875)

    Right, because 2 million iPhone 5 pre orders in 24 hours is *clearly* an indication of declining fame.

    Given 1.3 million Android registrations per day, Apple aren't even holding parity on launch events.

    Ok, let's do some simple logic - #1 - That includes tablets #2 - That includes all Android suppliers, not just one manufacturer. If Samsung sells a brand new Android phone, HTC doesn't see a cent of that money. Apple gets a cut of *every* new iPhone sold. So not only do the Android manufacturers have to compete with Apple, they have to compete with each other... just like Apple. #3 - While people may be buying Android devices, the usage numbers show iOS well in the lead. To me, that says people are buying the product, and then electing not to use it. Which tells me that it's not a very good product. #4 - Google says 430 Million Android devices worldwide, at 1.3 million activations per day. The Samsung/Apple lawsuit revealed Apple's sales figures. 250 million iPhone sales worldwide (pre iPhone 5). 46.5 million iPod touch units (hey, if you get to total up all Android units, we get to total up all iOS units). 84 million iPads, which by my math puts Apple at about 380 million units world wide, So Apple has shipped 50 million less of their platform, stacked against, what, at least 10 other companies who develop on the same paltform. And at a much higher profit margin. I strongly suspect that if you could get the individual players to reveal their actual sales figures, that not a single one of them could individually beat Apple in sales. You have to aggregate all of Apple's competitors against them to get a figure that's appreciable. But yeah, I guess you're right, Apple is doing *horrible* in sales.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 24, 2012 @08:33AM (#41435371)

    a) An entirely new design for screen manufacture no one else (but the Apple rMBP) uses.

    Made by Samsung.

    b) An entirely new CPU design (and yes this is the Intrinsity division of Apple).

    The credits for the CPU design belong to ARM

    c) An entirely new mapping subsystem

    Yet another object mapping system. So what?

    d) Passbook

    Kwallet has been around for at least 10 years.

    f) VIP mail

    So you filter your e-mail based on sender. This is so old that I haven't even been born when it was first implemented.

    g) Do not disturb / call me later

    You can't be serious with this one.

    etc...

    Please go on. Don't let the facts stop you.

  • by Chirs (87576) on Monday September 24, 2012 @10:52AM (#41436895)

    There's a fair bit of research showing that well-being is related inversely to the difference in income between the richest and poorest people in a society. The smaller the difference, the better off people are.

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