iPhone 5 GeekBench Results 470
EGSonikku writes "The iPhone 5 has been benchmarked using the GeekBench tool. According to the results, Apple's claim of 2x higher performance over the iPhone 4S seems accurate. The results show the iPhone 5's A6 CPU is dual core and clocked at 1.2GHz, and is paired with 1GB of RAM. Despite the fact that the Samsung Galaxy S3 has a quad core CPU at 1.4GHz, and twice as much RAM, it seems the iPhone 5 is faster than the S3, or any other Android handset." Meanwhile, Samsung has launched a marketing campaign that compares some of the hardware specs and features between the new iPhone 5 and the GS3.
Faster is fine - do we need thinner? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd rather it were the same thickness as the old model if the battery would last longer. Who exactly is it that thinks so they're so horribly thick?
Check your countries. (Score:5, Insightful)
Please note the summary is obviously about the "International" version of the Galaxy SIII.
The USA version of the Galaxy SIII, and the Evo LTE, and the One X all use the faster Qualcomm S4 chip, not the Tegra 3 they are trying to compare against. And "twice the RAM" should generally have nothing to do with performance.
What does this all mean? Generally, that the high-end [USA] Android phones perform easily as well as the new iphone 5.
Re:Faster is fine - do we need thinner? (Score:5, Insightful)
I've said the same thing for years about both phones and laptops. Sooner or later they're of a size that is small enough, and continually making components smaller should simply give us more room for more battery capacity. Even if this iPhone 5 gives us similar, or one can hope for slightly better, battery performance compared to the previous model. But one can only imagine how much better it would be if it were still the same size, and all the shrunken components would give us a battery capacity twice that of the previous model.
Re:Faster is fine - do we need thinner? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd rather it were the same thickness as the old model if the battery would last longer. Who exactly is it that thinks so they're so horribly thick?
Everyone I've seen with an iPhone has a ridicilously huge rubber case protecting the fragile thing. You should see the one my girlfriends mom has. You would think she was using a phone from early 2000. Why is thin such a big deal when everyone has a case that makes it NOT thin?
Re:Check your countries. (Score:5, Insightful)
True, but they do this with twice the cores and a highernclock frequency. That makes the A6 pretty impressive.
Imagine if they put a higher clocked, quad-core version of this in an iPad.
Android logo? (Score:5, Insightful)
The android logo on an iPhone story? Really?!?!
Oh samsung... (Score:3, Insightful)
That ad makes me giggle. Samsung is so deathly afraid of Apple that they are flaunting all of their silly useless(to me... I guess... maybe someone can use them) gadgets in hopes that people will think the I5 is inferior. The numbers will speak for themselves, and Samsung is wasting their advertising dollars... they should save up to pay their patent debts.
Seriously though, I never liked the Mac Vs PC ads, I feel like if you can't sell your product on its own merit, you shouldn't release ads trashing the other guys. When you have an awesome product, people will buy it... when you stoop to trash talk, you're showing your weakness. Apple showed their weakness with the MacVPC ads. Samsung is showing theirs with this.
Also, if Android didn't almost require 2GB of memory to run I'd feel like that is a lot. My 1GB android devices slug up so fast it is silly. If Android had the memory management of iOS, 2GB would scream.
Silly large companies...
Does the processor matter that much? (Score:5, Insightful)
At least in the US, the carriers seem determined to ensure that you upgrade every two years anyway, so it's not like you're going to be stuck with a phone which is all that old. It seems more like "fast enough" is simply a responsive GUI and a generally imperceptible execution time for the kinds of activities you do on a phone. I'm not running CFD models, transcoding movies, or running a popular web service on the thing - I'm tweaking photos, or asking it to make simple calculations my HP48 might do, streaming media or rendering a web page (without flash; thanks Steve).
Now that a couple of generations have past for Android and iOS, the options for switching are getting far more expensive and time consuming. Switch all my media to a new program for syncing - major PITA. Re-buy all my apps (not an insignificant endeavor) for the other platform - $$$. Learn where the fuck the Android/iOS developers decide to put some obscure setting I want to change? Heck, even just setting up my icons and replicating a useful look & feel means dropping at least a couple, if not several, hours.
Megapixels, streaming video chat, resolution, memory amount, memory speed - the numbers mean almost nothing. They mean even less when you can't even run the opposing OS on the hardware. But I suppose everybody has to have a ruler handy at some point.
Thinner is thinner (Score:3, Insightful)
Everyone I've seen with an iPhone has a ridicilously huge rubber case protecting the fragile thing.
Well the cases are not all that large that I have seen, but let's proceed as if they were.
Why is thin such a big deal when everyone has a case that makes it NOT thin?
Because the combination of a thinner device + a case is still thinner than the thicker device + a case. If the case, as you claim, is a constant - then thinner really does mean thinner to the user.
However one thing of note with the iPhone 5 is that it has a metal back again. I'm going to drop using a case with the iPhone5 since it should hold up better to drops (I never used a case with the original iPhone and never had an issue). Other people may also choose to stop using cases.
One other factor you forgot about is weight, the new phone is lighter - that does matter to people, I jog for instance and the iPhone 4 really produces a lot of pull in the pocket.
Re:Thinner is thinner (Score:3, Insightful)
So, what do you think a tautology proves? A thicker device is still thicker - have I proved a counterpoint?
Exactly what advantage (besides bragging rights to a a win in some pissing contest) does a 7.6 mm thick phone over a 9.3 mm phone? It's no different the the old Detroit "longer, lower, wider" marketing BS, which was about (marketed) style, not utility, performace, or any other competitive advantage.
Re:WGAF? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:WGAF? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Faster is fine - do we need thinner? (Score:2, Insightful)
Any reasonable laptop has a 2nd battery that replaces the optical drive. Maybe you shouldn't have bought an HP.
Re:WGAF? (Score:5, Insightful)
Smartphones are so fast nowadays that whatever you buy is good enough to do 90% of the things people want a smartphone to do.
That's because smart phones are basically 5 year old PC's with small screens.
But for some people the new network (LTE) will be radically different, especially if the 3G in your area has serious congestion issues.
Re:Odd conclusion... (Score:5, Insightful)
But its *not* impressive. Its totally *meh*. It looks so similar to a 4S that it barely deserves the '5' monkier.
Who cares how it looks? A good design is a good design. And I thought people claimed iOS users were just buying for the looks...
And even then, it actually looks pretty different with the metal back. In person it will not look that much like a 4s between the different back and taller form factor. I actually preferred the older size but the other aspects of the device are compelling enough for an upgrade.
The camera is almost exactly the same as the 4S
Incorrect. Google sample photos, you can see clear improvement in detail. Also, it's improved over the 4s in many other ways - up to two stops better low light performance for one thing (that is not at all nearly the same), and 40% faster to operate which is important in a mobile camera. The camera is actually what I am most interested in, along with greater processing power and more memory to handle some interesting photo manipulations or faster panoramic assembly. [tuaw.com]
We all were expecting better than what we got.
We were? I was expecting exactly what we got since it's now impossible for Apple to release a week after an announcement and have any secrets left to reveal, too many leaks along the assembly chain. Even then some aspects are better than I thought they might be, like the front camera for example.
Im more impressed with the S3.
And again you ignore the real core consideration that shoudl be present in the selection of any smartphone - what can you run on it? The iOS marketplace is still ahead of the Android marketplace, more in quality than quantity at this point - and that will continue as long as most Android phones are stuck at 2.x, while iOS apps are built atop more and more advanced libraries. You'll get some apps that take advantage of Android 4.0 but a tiny fraction of how many will be coding even against iOS6 at launch much less iOS5...
Re:Comparing apples and oranges (Score:5, Insightful)
As far as the end user is concerned, whether it is native code or not is irrelevant. The available apps should be compared. If they run fast, that's all the user cares about. Some theoretical e-peen contest about "oh my smartphone has a quad core CPU that is way faster" doesn't matter if the software available consumes far more resources and doesn't run as fast.
Re:Going for the S3 (Score:2, Insightful)
Wait, what? I did not have a 3g (I got a 3gs in 2009 that I still have is still getting iOS updates including iOS 6), but as far as I know the 3g--released in 2008--could run iOS 2 (stock), iOS 3 (2009), and iOS 4 (2010-11). Even if you bought an iPhone 3G the DAY before the 3gs was released, Apple still issued over a year and some change of software updates.
Do Android phones released in 2008 really do better in terms of running newer Android releases or getting updates? IMHO there are plenty of reasons to go with Android, but I don't think vendor operating system support is one of them!
Re:WGAF? (Score:4, Insightful)
Right, but the south koreans get quad core, some countries get different amounts of RAM etc.
If all you heard was the launch announcement of 'quad core*' and ignored the asterix of different countries getting different products you'd be confused by the whole thing.
As a developer by the way, this is a fucking nightmare. I work at a university, so we have, every year and every christmas people with phones from all over the world trying to use our mobile app. We need to test on the indian version, the korean version the chinese versions, the hong kong version, the taiwanese version, etc. etc. etc. And we need someone to keep track of what all the different versions are. I know the guys at big blue bubble in town who make mobile games have a big lab but I think they only care about europe and north america rather than everywhere else too.
Re:WGAF? (Score:4, Insightful)
Try 10 year old PCs. I have a Core 2 Quad here that's pretty much 5 years old and is still 5x faster than any phone in the geekbench data. Linpack is 1000x slower on any ARM than it is on a current x86 too.
Jack Dongarra published a paper how he got about 800 MFlops out of an iPad 2, using only one core, and estimates that about 1.5 GFlops should be possible. The iPhone 5 chip should run a lot faster. And no current x86 does 1500 GFlops.