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HTC One X Phone Held by Customs Due to ITC Ruling 101

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from the just-get-an-iphone-instead dept.
zacharye writes, quoting BGR: "The launch of Sprint's flagship EVO 4G LTE has been delayed indefinitely and supply of AT&T's flagship HTC One X will be constrained as a result of ongoing patent disputes between HTC and Apple. HTC confirmed in a statement emailed to BGR on Tuesday evening that shipments of its new EVO 4G LTE and One X smartphones have been held up by United States Customs as part of an International Trade Commission investigation. Before the phones can clear Customs, the ITC will need to determine that HTC's new handsets are in compliance with an earlier ruling..."
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HTC One X Phone Held by Customs Due to ITC Ruling

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  • by sl4shd0rk (755837) on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @11:31AM (#40017469)

    I could even mistake the HTC logo at the top, and the bottom row of hardware buttons for an early ipad. Totally.

    • by Moheeheeko (1682914) on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @11:53AM (#40017743)
      B-b-b-but....the round corners!

      ROUND

      CORNERS

    • by jo_ham (604554)

      I know you're trolling, but actually, Apple's lawsuit against HTC is over certain software patents related to URL handling and so on, not what the phone looks like. It's even thinner ice than a design patent suit.

      Either way, it's amusing to see the "zomg Apple is evil!" comments on this story contrasted with the "haha good on Samsung, totally legit!" when the reverse was the case in Germany and Apple had to pull products.

      In my opinion it's all just getting ridiculous, with some of these suits hinging on the

      • The Apple is evil comments are because Apple fired the first salvo in this war. Yes, most of the suits on either side are nonsense, but its only understandable to enjoy seeing a bully get hoisted by their own petard...
        • by jo_ham (604554)

          I suppose that depends what you consider the opening salvo to be? Nokia vs Apple? Samsung vs Apple? HTC vs Apple? Microsoft vs Google? Motorola vs Apple?

  • sell these to Sprint knowing they would be held up at customs and possibly not be able to sell them in the US?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      sell these to Sprint knowing they would be held up at customs and possibly not be able to sell them in the US?

      Inasmuch as the act of "selling a phone better than the iPhone outside of Apple's release schedule" seems to be enough to get your phone's sales stopped by Apple these days, I suppose the answer is technically "yes".

    • Why not? If Apple's claims are quashed, Sprint sells the phones as normal. If not, HTC gets them back and refunds Sprint.
    • Re:So did HTC (Score:5, Informative)

      by icebike (68054) * on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @02:12PM (#40019535)

      sell these to Sprint knowing they would be held up at customs and possibly not be able to sell them in the US?

      Actually MILLIONS already entered the country and were sold by AT&T and independent retailers. Only when this phone started taking
      serious sales away from Apple did they start complaining.

      HTC has long ago removed the offending patent item [bgr.com]. (And Apple ultimately lost on all other claims in this particular suit.) A single item in the '694 patent [google.com] was upheld, namely having a url sent in a text message be treated as a real url and launching the browser when tapped. (My ancient Razr feature phone did that - sans the tapping part).

  • Was able to order the Evo yesterday, but doubt I'll get it now. I'll never get it EVER NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER EVER H8888 APPLE!!!! Alright, I'm mostly kidding, but I did want my fucking phone.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Step 1: Create mediocre, over-priced smart phone to leverage absurdly loyal fan-base, using components from popular MP3 player.
    Step 2: Claim to have invented every aspect of smart phone technology, and sue into oblivion anyone who dares to threaten your market share by creating superior products.
    Step 3: Profit.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Quila (201335)

      Create mediocre, over-priced smart phone to leverage absurdly loyal fan-base

      You do realize that most buyers were not Apple fans, right? In fact, the term "halo effect" was coined in this context to describe people who became Apple fans because of buying iPhones, making them more likely to buy Apple computers.

      using components from popular MP3 player.

      There was pretty much no hardware or software in common with the iPod of the time when the iPhone was released.

      sue into oblivion anyone who dares to threaten you

      • by domatic (1128127)

        The marketshare and insane profits came before the lawsuits. Those lawsuits appeared because of copycat products. Android is a perfect example.

        Um......no.

        http://www.osnews.com/story/25264/Did_Android_Really_Look_Like_BlackBerry_Before_the_iPhone_ [osnews.com]

        • by Quila (201335)

          Do I have the timeline wrong here?

          Apple begins working on iPhone in 2005

          Google buys Android in 2005

          Apple announces iPhone in January 2007

          May 2007, Blackberry-like Android prototypes are available for internal use (Horowitz says he's been using his for six months). This phone looks like the phone in the first SDK phone emulators.

          Apple releases iPhone June 2007

          Sometime before November 2007, an obviously unfinished full-screen Android device with very limited touch capabilities is ready for a demonstration. No

  • Patent In Question? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @11:56AM (#40017793)

    Can't find any info yet on the patent in question, but Apple had won a patent ruling back in December. HTC was suppose to resolve it to avoid an import ban. Here are the details.

    The patent in question, 5,946,647 was granted in 1999 and covers identifying data "having recognizable structures," such as a "phone number, post-office address, e-mail address, and name." Then, the patent says, a "parsing process" will allow "appropriate actions" to be taken

    If this is still the issue, thank god that the courts are there to protect inventors of such important magnitude. It's horrible to think that someone who could come up with the idea of parsing a phone number would not be adequately compensated. I can't imagine how much R&D Apple has spent in the process. An import ban is the only appropriate resolution.

    BTW, in this legal case, Apple had sued for 10 separate patents. Out of the 10, this is the only one that the courts upheld. I can't imagine what the other 9 were like.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      The patent was filed in 1996. The C2 wiki [c2.com] has been doing this since 1995. Camel case words are automatically converted to hyperlinks. (And coincidentally, the next Slashdot story is an interview with its inventor, Ward Cunningham.) Shortly afterwards, I copied the idea in my company's issue tracking system. Identifiers like "Q1234" were automatically converted to hyperlinks to the page describing the issue.

      I know Apple's patent isn't exactly the same thing, but once you've had the idea of recognising

    • by jeti (105266)

      Yep. Other sources suggested that this is the relevant patent.

    • by thegarbz (1787294)

      I just realised my VoIP system is infringing on this patent too, you know parsing the data it is getting and then redirecting calls appropriately based on the structure of the number it receives.

      Actually Apple should call AT&T. I believe they've been doing something similar since the second world war. That's a lot of royalties to collect. Bonus points for getting AT&T banned in America.

  • Hey HTC, maybe you can upgrade the last glut of ICS-capable phones to ICS before you worry about selling your latest and greatest to us? I thought it was a no-brainer that my fully-capable myTouch 4G slide would be upgraded to ICS when I bought the phone 8 months ago. My next phone will not be an HTC one, let alone a One X.
    • Pretty sure you don't understand their business model.

      • by mcgrew (92797) *

        If you're pissing off your customers, your business model is pretty damned weak.

        • Old customers, not new customers.

          HTC doesn't make any money if you have the latest & greatest version of Android.

    • by PAPPP (546666)
      Hello fellow MT4GS owner, allow me to introduce you the magic of community ROMs. I've been running an unofficial CM9 build from here [xda-developers.com] on mine recently, and it only has a handful of bugs. The current builds are using a 2.6 kernel because the 3.0 tree isn't playing nice with the keyboard. It is a completely open community project, so you can watch progress on the TeamDS github page [github.com].
      It sucks that HTC and/or T-Mobile aren't providing us with an official ICS ROM, but when you buy a phone you are buying that
  • on the strength of their products. Well played Apple, well played.
  • Apple zealots everywhere are cheering. Amazing how much other companies allow Apple to get away with.

    • by jo_ham (604554)

      Well, I guess it's the Apple Zealots turn, after all the Android Zealots were cheering after Apple's handsets were held back from sale in Germany. It's not really a case of "other companies allowing" Apple to get away with things - that would be the legal system.

      Personally I think it's all just getting stupid - most of these patent suits are bullshit, on both sides.

  • by doston (2372830) on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @01:12PM (#40018707)
    If you were unlucky enough to put in a pre order for the Evo with Sprint, there's no way to get a refund. You're just stuck, with your money tied up, waiting for patent disputes that could take forever.
    • Are you sure of that? Granted, I've never done a pre-order with them... but every encounter I have had with Sprint's customer service has been excellent. Maybe you could try having them switch you over to the Galaxy Nexus? I just got two - one for me and one for the wife - and we love them.

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