NY Times Apple Tax Article Flawed 193
bonch writes "Forbes contributer Tim Worstall points out that the NY Times article claiming Apple pays less than 10 percent of its profit in taxes was based on a flawed assumption of the corporate tax system. The 9.8% figure came from Greenlining Institute, who compared Apple's 2011 profits to taxes calculated according to 2010 profits. In the corporate tax system, estimated quarterly tax payments are made based on the previous year's profits until actual profits are calculated at the end of the trading year, when the balance is then paid to the IRS."
Re:So what? (Score:5, Informative)
Found it (Score:5, Informative)
Re:So what? (Score:3, Informative)
We won't know until the actual profits are calculated at the end of the trading year, when Apple pays the remaining balance.
What?! Yes, you can. Because it was derived from 2010's, it doesn't reflect what Apple's actual tax rate will be for its 2011 profits, which were much higher than 2010's. Therefore, the figure is totally useless.
Re:So what? (Score:4, Informative)
Apple's 2011 fiscal year end is September 2012. And I am sure they file extensions. So, no, we would not have the data yet.
Re:Tax on Profit vs Revenue (Score:4, Informative)
Oh, you! With your silly facts and rational economic concepts. This is Slashdot. You must drink from the Derp-Aide, and call for ALL the taxes to be 100%!
Forbes Article is Wrong (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Found it (Score:5, Informative)
You don't understand what Effective Tax Rate is. It is the tax rate they paid on income, after taking into account the tiered nature of taxes you described (which is how it works for individuals - I'm not sure about corporations but I'll take you're word for it). Their highest marginal rate therefore would have been higher than the 24% (and their lowest would have been lower).
Re:So what? (Score:5, Informative)
Apple reports a worldwide effective tax rate of 24.2 percent. A lower effective tax rate increases a company’s reported book profits. Apple would have a lower reported effective tax rate and higher profits if it recorded its tax expense the way most other companies do. Under generally accepted accounting principles, U.S. companies do not have to book tax expense on foreign profits if the company deems them to be permanently invested overseas. To lower their reported effective tax rates and boost their reported after-tax profits, most companies assume all of their unrepatriated foreign profits are permanently reinvested offshore. If Apple asserted that all of its foreign earnings were permanently invested outside the United States, it would have booked an estimated $3.6 billion less in tax expense, and its effective tax rate would be 12.8 percent. (See the table.) When assessing Apple’s tax situation relative to that of most other companies, this adjusted rate is probably more relevant than the reported 24.2 percent rate.
Why doesn’t Apple maximize reported profit like most other companies? We can only speculate. Perhaps because it is breaking all records for profitability now, it is saving some profits for less fortunate times in the future. As the Joint Committee on Taxation recently wrote: ‘‘If the company accrues the tax expense in the year the profits are earned, it may later decide that those funds will not be repatriated after all. At that later time it may then reverse the tax expense and shift financial statement income from the prior period into the current period.’’ (See ‘‘Present Law and Background Relating to the Interaction of Federal Income Tax Rules and Financial Accounting Rules,’’ JCX-13-12, Feb. 7, 2012, Doc 2012-2443 or 2012 TNT 26-15.)
An alternative explanation is that perhaps Apple — with its young, socioeconomically elite customer base — does not want the negative publicity that a low effective tax rate could generate with groups like Citizens for Tax Justice and US Uncut.