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A Week After Apple's Fix, Flashback Still Infects Half a Million Macs 161

Sparrowvsrevolution writes "Security firm Dr. Web released new statistics Friday showing that the process of eliminating Flashback from Macs is proceeding far slower than expected: On Friday the security firm, which first spotted the Mac botnet earlier this month, released new data showing that 610,000 active infected machines were counted Wednesday and 566,000 were counted Thursday. That's a slim decrease from the peak of 650,000 to 700,000 machines infected with the malware when Apple released its cleanup tool for the trojan late last week. Earlier in the week, Symantec reported that only 140,000 machines remained infected, but admitted Friday that an error in its measurement caused it to underestimate the remaining infections, and it now agrees with Dr. Web's much more pessimistic numbers."
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A Week After Apple's Fix, Flashback Still Infects Half a Million Macs

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  • Re:Well clearly (Score:5, Interesting)

    by __aaqvdr516 ( 975138 ) on Friday April 20, 2012 @07:57PM (#39752371)

    That's what TFA says. The infected machines haven't had the updates installed. That implies that the owners either don't know that they are infected or don't care. I'm leaning towards the former.

    With the number of machines that remain, it seems clear also that Mac users aren't using auto updates. What's up with that?

  • makes more sense (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sribe ( 304414 ) on Friday April 20, 2012 @07:58PM (#39752379)

    I had wondered how in the hell it got that low that fast--a couple of days after Symantec reported 140,000, they or someone else reported 30,000. But checking the Java vulnerability against versions installed with Mac OS X, it seems that 10.4 and 10.5 should also be vulnerable, while Apple only patched for 10.6 and 10.7. That alone should prevent the numbers dropping so far so fast. Sigh. Smooth move Apple.

  • by Billly Gates ( 198444 ) on Friday April 20, 2012 @08:44PM (#39752671) Journal

    My issue is Macs are expensive and therefore mac users do not upgrade as often. The old Mac argument was that a PC would go obsolete in 3 years while mac users will use their machines for 7 years or more and still get support.

    MacOSX does not get updates if you are just a few years old. Many people buy used macbooks because of the price and are getting let out. Many do not even know they are not supported.

    I hope you are right about Apple. They should at least let their users know to upgrade for the latest security threats ... assuming you can if you are first generation intel owners or powerpc.

  • The numbers (Score:5, Interesting)

    by glitch0 ( 859137 ) on Friday April 20, 2012 @09:44PM (#39753009) Homepage
    I'm not discrediting these guys and I'm honestly curious: How to they arrive at these numbers? How does one determine if a computer is infected without access to said computer?

    Do they port scan 1000 random machines and extrapolate from there? I'm genuinely curious to know their methods. How could they arrive at such a precise number? Surely they must only have a sample of macs and use statistical models to extrapolate, right? They can't scan all the macs, right? right?

    How do they do it?!?!
  • Re:Well clearly (Score:4, Interesting)

    by zippthorne ( 748122 ) on Friday April 20, 2012 @09:50PM (#39753035) Journal

    And once again, it doesn't do even the above if you're logged in as a regular user. You have to manually kick it off to even find out there *are* updates.

    It's not hard to kick it off, but it is something you have to bother to remember to do. Which, "your parents" probably do not ever really think about.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 20, 2012 @09:52PM (#39753061)
    I always come to slashdot first, as an only marginally tech proficient individual. This has always been great when I owned a PC, however, it's useless now that the household went mac. All I see are the same crappy responses. Something about it "just working". Something about the cost of a mac versus PC. Something about mac users being smug. Something about mac users not being smart enough to worry about virus because "mac's don't get them." A screed about closed garden, with a side of open source politics thrown in.

    I really do wish that the articles on Apple could actually be useful and we could discuss, if this is hitting computers that were patched, or not. How do you check your computer, with links to whatever that site was that gave a step by step. Whether or not Apple's fix's are actually fixing, or if us Mac folks should look for a third party solution. That kind of information is always abounding on other articles, why not here?
  • I wish Microsoft... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by sideslash ( 1865434 ) on Friday April 20, 2012 @10:44PM (#39753331)
    ...would hire those two dudes from the "I'm a Mac and I'm a PC" commercial for a reunion commercial. I'm sure Apple would sue, though, because Apple only has a sense of humor when they are making fun of other people.
  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday April 21, 2012 @01:06AM (#39753909)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

It's a naive, domestic operating system without any breeding, but I think you'll be amused by its presumption.

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