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Apple Has Spent More Than $100 Million Suing Android Manufacturers 184

Diggester writes with an excerpt from an article at Gizmocrazed about the absurd amount of money Apple has spent suing HTC et al: "The never-ending war on Android has cost Apple more than $100 million, according to latest estimates. While a huge chunk of that money was spent (read wasted) in claims against HTC. So far, 84 claims have been filed against different Android manufacturers (HTC, Samsung, etc.) for patent infringements, out of which only 10 were proved to have been infringed and only one ruling has gone in Apple's favor."
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Apple Has Spent More Than $100 Million Suing Android Manufacturers

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  • Does not compute (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:05PM (#38810621)

    So far, 84 claims have been filed against different Android manufacturers (HTC, Samsung, etc.) for patent infringements, out of which only 10 were proved to have been infringed and only one ruling has gone in Apple's favor."

    WTH? What happened in the 9 cases where the patent was proven to be infringed but the ruling didn't go in Apple's favour?

  • by psergiu ( 67614 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:06PM (#38810635)

    Question is - how much money did they won from that one ruling in favor ?

  • by sethstorm ( 512897 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:06PM (#38810637) Homepage

    They could have gotten higher ones investing in manufacturing in the US for US markets versus this unproductive litigation.

  • by Lambeco ( 1705140 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:09PM (#38810681)

    Question is - how much money did they won from that one ruling in favor ?

    Any compensation awarded to Apple in these cases is purely icing, and a molecule in the bucket compared to Apple's capital. This is about protecting their brand, trademarks and image. And as we all know, Apple will go to any lengths to do so.

  • by tripleevenfall ( 1990004 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:10PM (#38810701)

    Microsoft's mobile business essentially IS extorting money from Android manufacturers to indemnify themselves against litigation, I'm not sure why Apple wouldn't try their hand at it too.

  • by DickBreath ( 207180 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:10PM (#38810709) Homepage
    A patent troll might consider that money a wise investment, even if it results in a court loss. It still creates Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD).

    Also, going to court is always a risk. There is some chance that no matter how ridiculous its claims, Apple might win on some minor points, or even some major ones.

    Consider this: Apple's Dutch Galaxy Tab ban shot down by The Hague [channelregister.co.uk]

    From that article:

    After presiding over wrangles regarding the exact appearance of the two tablets and a thorough discussion of features such as dotted lines, screen icons and thickness of the device, the Dutch judge concluded that the Samsung Tablet gave a different overall impression to Apple's iPad.

    Yes folks. Money spent to argue over dotted lines and thickness of the device.

    Yes. Thickness of the device. A reasonable design goal to anyone.

    That's like arguing infringement of a sports car design based on "goes fast".

  • by nomadic ( 141991 ) <nomadicworld@@@gmail...com> on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:19PM (#38810853) Homepage
    This is about Steve Jobs throwing a tantrum because Google had the audacity to try and compete with the iphone with Android.
  • by Lugor ( 628175 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:20PM (#38810857)
    What the articles don't point out is this could be all grandstanding and positioning by all parties in a future patent settlement. Current patent laws and process allows too much overlap; they all virtually infringe on each others patent. They will all have to settle at some point, so look at the $100 million not as court costs but investment in future patent royalties or down-payment on future royalty payout.
  • by Qzukk ( 229616 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:22PM (#38810877) Journal

    The real question is: how much money did all the lawsuits (winning or not) cost the competitors?

  • by Skarecrow77 ( 1714214 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @05:31PM (#38811035)

    at least they looked at the devices. If I recall, Germany provided an initial injunction based on a heavily photoshopped picture, provided by apple, showing the ipad vs galaxy tab that had the tab's dimensions grossly distorted and a non-standard home screen manipulated to appear as close to the ipad as possible.

    The car equivilent wouldn't be "goes fast" it would be ferrari showing a simple photo of an F40 next to a lamborghini where the lambo's body has been completely removed and replaced with an F40 look-alike, painted with a ferrari factory color, and had ferrari-esque badges slapped on... except the whole lambo conversion was done by ferrari themselves in order to misrepresent the true appearance of the original car.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @06:00PM (#38811493)

    Steve was never one to let the facts get in the way of his view of the universe.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @06:11PM (#38811675)

    This is about Steve Jobs throwing a tantrum because Google had the audacity to try and compete with the iphone with Android.

    The tantrum was about someone doing to him exactly what he did to Xerox.

  • by Pieroxy ( 222434 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @06:19PM (#38811817) Homepage

    The tantrum was about someone doing to him exactly what he did to Xerox.

    Do you mean to say Apple offered everything on iOS to Google and said "There. Do what you want with it." ?

    That's not the story - at least not the way I remember it.

  • by sonicmerlin ( 1505111 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @06:50PM (#38812299)

    Right, when Samsung is coming out with products as unique as this: (http://inspiredbyapple.tumblr.com/tagged/Samsung), why would anyone doubt this is all about Jobs's tantrum?

    Besides, before the iPad tablets looked almost exactly the same as and functioned just like Apple's products: http://www.pcworld.com/article/113375/tablet_pc_turns_one.html [pcworld.com]

  • Comment removed (Score:4, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @07:02PM (#38812477)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Citizen of Earth ( 569446 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @07:06PM (#38812539)

    This is about protecting their brand, trademarks and image.

    Not really. It's about obstructing its competitors from bringing their phones to market. Apple figured out a year ago that its competitors have better phones than it does.

  • by mjwx ( 966435 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @08:43PM (#38813591)

    So far, 84 claims have been filed against different Android manufacturers (HTC, Samsung, etc.) for patent infringements, out of which only 10 were proved to have been infringed and only one ruling has gone in Apple's favor."

    WTH? What happened in the 9 cases where the patent was proven to be infringed but the ruling didn't go in Apple's favour?

    They made minor changes to the software as per court orders.

    What you have to remember is that Apple are so afraid of Android that they are suing over anything and everything no matter how petty.

  • by psiclops ( 1011105 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @10:00PM (#38814239)

    Before the iPhone was first unveiled(January 2007) there was a phone (LG Prada [wikipedia.org]) that actually did look a lot like an iPhone

    LG Electronics has claimed the iPhone's design was copied from the LG Prada. Woo-Young Kwak, head of LG Mobile Handset R&D Center, said at a press conference, “We consider that Apple copied the Prada phone after the design was unveiled when it was presented in the iF Design Award and won the prize in September 2006.”[8]

    Note: While the LG Prada was not released until after the iPhone, the design and concept were released before we saw any of this from Apple.

  • by artor3 ( 1344997 ) on Tuesday January 24, 2012 @10:21PM (#38814377)

    So you're saying that Apple should be able to trademark the rounded rectangle? That's stupid. Touchscreen devices, quite obviously, should try to maximize the size of the screen relative to the device. And anything that people must handle regularly shouldn't have sharp corners. The rounded rectangle is simply a case of form following function.

    Also, at least one of those photos has been manipulated to make the Samsung phone look more like the iPhone. The Galaxy S and iPhone 3G have different dimensions, including different aspect ratios, yet they appear identical in the photo comparing them. Whoops! Newsflash... if you have to lie to prove your point, you don't have one.

  • by LordKronos ( 470910 ) on Wednesday January 25, 2012 @12:49AM (#38815377)

    They did - Samsung will open a new factory in Texas for producing the A? CPUs. Too bad that they will be shipped to China for final assembly as there are no suitable factories in US :)

    Yep. As far as I know, there isn't a single US factory that houses 8000 "workers" on-site, ready to wake up in the middle of the night without warning and work a 12 hour shift with a biscuit and tea as their reward.

    Oh, or did you mean that none of the factories are suitable because they all lack the necessary suicide nets?

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