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More Photoshopped Evidence In Apple v. Samsung 345

jfruhlinger writes "It seems that Apple can't stop Photoshopping evidence in its EU lawsuit against Samsung. We already saw that the company used trickery in its side-by-side comparison of the iPad and Galaxy Tab; now it appears that it's fudging the comparison between the iPhone and Galaxy S as well."
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More Photoshopped Evidence In Apple v. Samsung

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 19, 2011 @11:13PM (#37150460)

    So they are saying they've "innovated" the mobile device sector for inventing handhelds with rounded corners and big screens. Well, how does that hold up to their first iPhone looking strikingly similar [engadget.com] to Nokia's MID (at that time already being their third generation handheld none the less!)?

    Apple is not that innovative, they just have better marketing - which they now can leverage for sueing their competition (I'm sure every judge has heard of the iPhone, I doubt the same is true for Nokia's Maemo devices)

  • Re:Dear Apple (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jo42 ( 227475 ) on Friday August 19, 2011 @11:16PM (#37150468) Homepage

    It is a flat screen with icons. No, you didn't think it up first.

    But they where the first to do it in such a way that they're making massively huge butt loads of money.

    So everyone else copies them in an attempt to cash in on their success.

    Welcome to capitalism. And lawyers and all the other nonsense that comes with it...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 19, 2011 @11:44PM (#37150602)

    Samsung went to some lengths to make the grid view look more like iOS. But really, it's a grid of rounded icons. Big. Freaking. Deal.

    HEY APPLE, some users might appreciate it if you started ripping off some Android design elements. Like widgets. But hey glad to see you've at least gotten around to copying the notification area, complete with the whole swipe gesture and all.

  • by macraig ( 621737 ) <mark@a@craig.gmail@com> on Friday August 19, 2011 @11:47PM (#37150614)

    These so-called Community Designs (I'm an ugly American, what do I know) need another stringent test in order to be considered a reasonable restriction on the market: Did the tools and technology to implement a design already exist, such that anyone could have readily "invented" the same design, or did the design require the initial invention of tools and technology necessary to implement the design itself, in a fashion similar to the work of Charles Babbage?

    Apple's designs don't pass that test, do they?

  • by tibman ( 623933 ) on Saturday August 20, 2011 @12:50AM (#37150876) Homepage

    That picture is selective. Not all tablets looked like that pre-ipad. For example, take a look at my old visionplate: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/tibman/VisionPlate/DSCN0921.jpg [photobucket.com]

    Looks almost exactly like an Ipad.. except it predates the ipad by many years.

  • by rve ( 4436 ) on Saturday August 20, 2011 @12:55AM (#37150894)

    The lawsuits aren't stupid, they're a (imo) desperate attempt to keep history from repeating itself.

    In the 1980's, Apple seemed to have it all, only to have their flagship gadget elbowed into a niche as soon as the windows PC was capable of doing pretty much the same things, but at a more affordable price, and offering a more open platform both for software development and hardware vendors. At the time, Apple sued Microsoft for stealing their 'look and feel', but lost. It turns out, you can't patent or copyright a 'look and feel'. (Unless the competition starts using an apple for a logo, or simply copying the hardware and software. This is common enough, in China you can buy devices that are basically iPhones, presumably made in the same factory, except for the Apple logo. You get those separately in the form of stickers you can apply yourself if you want).

    Even though Apple's claim is obviously true: Samsung obviously made these gadgets deliberately similar to the corresponding Apple product in order to compete in the same high margin market segment, I doubt a new series of 'look and feel' lawsuits is going to be more successful.

    Right now, the prices are similar, but soon enough the Android devices will start to become cheaper. I will not be surprised if 15 or 20 years from now, Apple will be a fancy niche player, falling further and further behind their Asian competitors and their Google OS. Larry Page taking the place of Bill Gates as the most hated evil business man on the internet.

  • by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Saturday August 20, 2011 @01:51AM (#37151070)
    I'm always reminded of the Sony Clie TH55 [lowprice.ca] from 2004. It had WiFi, an SD slot, a camera... it always drove me nuts how they simply refused to harness all the potential of that hardware. Sony, you were Apple 20 years ago, and now look at you. What happened?
  • by andydread ( 758754 ) on Saturday August 20, 2011 @04:05AM (#37151408)
    Here is what Apple copied. [dailymail.co.uk] What I don't understand is why is it that Apple followers wont admit it in the face of actual evidence. Seems irrational.
  • Re:Dear Apple (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 20, 2011 @10:14AM (#37152978)

    Not to support Apple, but Samsung (as an Apple supplier) probably saw the prototypes of the iPhone many months before it was introduced. At the very least they knew the dimensions of the screen and how it worked. Same with the iPad.

    Would that not give them ample time to make a copy? Doesn't your whole post collapse because you ignored that obvious fact? Your anti-Apple stance seems to lead you to ignore anything that doesn't support your prejudices.

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