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Creating a Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Bootable Flash Drive 206

Posted by timothy
from the no-you-probably-can't-put-it-on-your-netbook dept.
WankerWeasel writes "With the release of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion this month, Apple will no longer offer a bootable installer DVD and is making 10.7 Lion available only through the App Store. This guide provides quick instructions on how to use the OS X 10.7 Lion installer to create a bootable flash drive (instructions for making a bootable DVD are also included on the blog)."
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Creating a Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Bootable Flash Drive

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  • Does Apple provide a way to replace a hard drive? Without access to a booted system you can't download anything. Unless they want you to bring in your machine ...
  • by jedidiah (1196) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @03:00PM (#36686876) Homepage

    I expect the stumbling block here is creating some sort of normal looking install media for MacOS Lion.

    Once you've got that, it's actually pretty simple to target any USB storage device. Just install it like you would a normal disk. Pretty simple stuff.

  • rank speculation (Score:2, Insightful)

    by sribe (304414)

    With the release of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion this month, Apple will no longer offer a bootable installer DVD and is making 10.7 Lion available only through the App Store.

    Apple only announced that Lion would be available through the Mac App Store. They did not annouce anything else. All commentary on whether or not you will be able to burn a bootable disk, whether or not you will be able to purchase physical media, and so on, is merely uninformed speculation.

    • Re:rank speculation (Score:5, Informative)

      by adamstew (909658) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @03:47PM (#36687434)

      Apple has said, quite explicitly, that Lion will ONLY be available in the App store. They mentioned this as part of the WWDC keynote.

      • by sribe (304414)

        I was there. I heard them. It will only be available for purchase via the app store. They did not say ***anything*** at all about bootable disks, whether/how you could burn one, whether there would be any kind of recovery disk available, and so on. You, like the OP, are extrapolating based on your own assumptions.

        • by Macrat (638047)

          I was there. I heard them. It will only be available for purchase via the app store. They did not say ***anything*** at all about bootable disks, whether/how you could burn one, whether there would be any kind of recovery disk available, and so on. You, like the OP, are extrapolating based on your own assumptions.

          Yes they did. Watch the WWDC keynote again from Apple's keynote podcast. It is at the 35 minute mark and Phil Schiller says, "How are we going to get it? In the past, one thing that every version of Mac X has shared in common that it came on an optical disc. No more. (preso animation of a disc dissolving) Lion will only be available in the Mac App Store."

          • by Cinder6 (894572)

            That still says nothing about making your own bootable discs. It doesn't come on an optical disc anymore (as in, Apple won't sell it that way), but who says you can't put it on one? Nobody.

        • They have clearly said that THEY will not supply any physical media. It is easy to speculate, however, that you'll be able to make your own physical media.

      • Apple has said, quite explicitly, that Lion will ONLY be available in the App store. They mentioned this as part of the WWDC keynote.

        So new Macs will never come with Lion?

        • by Macrat (638047)

          So new Macs will never come with Lion?

          New Macs will come with the latest OS on the hard drive like always.

      • Those of us in the Apple Dev program have already burnt a copy of the Lion GM. It comes as a DMG file. If you want to put it on a USB key or DVD (dual layer), it is up to you.
        • by adamstew (909658)

          oh, I agree... once you have it downloaded, it's quite easy to just burn the file to a DVD or a USB key. I was just saying that in order to buy it, you'll be doing that through the App Store.

    • Speculation? People are burning backup media. The gold master has been released to developers. Not much speculation at this point.

      The speculation is if it will be possible to buy an optical disc at some point. I would be surprised if it doesn't come out eventually, or maybe they only sell it in areas without Apple stores, or something similar.

  • by perpenso (1613749) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @03:20PM (#36687074)

    Apple will no longer offer a bootable installer DVD ...

    Note that everyone is talking about the 10.7 ***upgrade***. If you are buying a new mac with 10.7 preinstalled you will probably have DVD media to restore your system.

    • by frizop (831236)
      Didn't they say it was going to be a USB Thumb drive?
    • Except that you won't. You'll have a new Mac with a drive that has Lion with a recovery partition. No disks, sorry.

  • Pure BS and FUD (Score:5, Informative)

    by javab0y (708376) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @03:27PM (#36687138)
    Apple knows they cannot allow a non-bootable OS. If your drive crashes, WTF are you going to do? Anyways... lets get to the real deal. The downloadable version of Mac OS X lion has a bootable DMG in the Contents/Shared Resources directory.Its called InstallESD.dmg. Simply open DiskUtility and burn that to DVD, then you have a bootable disk.
    • It's BS and FUD to you, certainly - any of us here know (or should know) that the download includes an image for a bootable DVD. But how many normal Mac users are going to know that? In all honesty I don't know how well publicised this is. I read the tech press so I've known it for a while, but if I asked someone like my dad? I'm not so sure. Then their drive goes down, their computer is unbootable, and they're mightily pissed off with Apple for either not making it clearer (though as I say, it's possible t

      • by Jezza (39441)

        Or they boot from their existing media and use their Apple ID to re-download it (yes a huge hassle... but doable). Or probably more likely they take it to an Apple Store where a "genius" fixes it, and as part of that process they reload the OS... Just saying.

        • But a problem there is if there *are* no Apple stores nearby, and you're on capped broadband.

          I just think Apple probably should offer Lion on DVDs, too. As it is, a lot of their customers aren't likely to have burned any recovery media and will have to go to an Apple store... and there might not even be any. (I live in Norway. We don't have any here. We've got quite a few resellers, but they're just resellers, and I've got absolutely no idea what they will or won't be able to do.)

          • by Jezza (39441)

            Connect it to the Internet and use your Apple ID to download a fresh copy (it really is that simple).

            Yeah, Apple have removed the floppy disk again... we'll adapt.

      • If someone can't manage the 3 seconds of Google searching to find out how to make a bootable CD image, then they really aren't going to be in a position to replace their faulty drive and reinstall the OS. They should be taking it to a geek friend or a computer store.
      • by Osgeld (1900440)

        yea a bootable dmg file you should have burned when you downloaded it does not do much good when its been deleted for 8 months and your computer is hosed does it

        Apple! Always finding a way to fuck up a perfectly good disk

      • If your Dad doesn't know to make a recovery disk or thumb drive, he's also not gonna know how to boot from the system disk that was provided.

        And if you don't understand Apple's desire to push new paradigms like download-only purchases, then you haven't been paying attention to anything they've done in the past 10 years.

  • by jsepeta (412566) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @03:59PM (#36687586) Homepage

    Are Apple's profits too infinitesimal for them to take the staggering loss of pennies by making millions of DVDs that nobody uses after the first install? Or are they trying to help the environment by forcing all their technically-gifted customers to buy USB flash drives so that we can install a single download onto multiple computers?

    I think this move is every bit as misguided as Apple's Final Cut Pro X (iMovie Pro) and only slapping 2GB RAM onto brand new MacBooks - or Jobs' decision to not include a disk drive on the NeXt Cube (a decade before writable CD's were widely available). Yes, I use Macs, but more and more begrudgingly because those rich BASTARDS are being CHEAPSKATES.

    • by Jezza (39441)

      You can't copy a file across your network?! Seriously, think about it - you downloaded it, you're going to run it from the hard disk. Now how can you do that from another computer? Copy the file across the network perhaps?

    • jobs is louseing it time for him to go!

      He will likely F* the next mini with a i3 cpu and on board intel video that is weaker then todays mini with on board nvidia video. and have like 1-2 TB ports on linked at x4 so that will be like 8-12 unused pci-e lanes that are a good fit for some kind better video chip.

    • They really like the iDevice model, where they are the gatekeepers and controllers of all your stuff. You buy everything for your device from them, from one place they control. They decide what can be sold, and they get a cut of everything. That model has worked real well for them. Their massive rise has not been because of their computer division, it has been because of their consumer electronics division and associated online store (don't believe the fanboys who say they make nothing on iTunes and so on).

    • by fermion (181285)
      Just to include some facts. This only includes upgrades, and the upgrade costs is $29. This includes as many computers as you have under your iTunes account. The cost for such a multi-computer upgrade was $200 two versions ago and $100 in the current version. So yes, there is a reason to not include physical media. They are trying to sell at as low a price as possible.

      In terms of the USB drive, if one wanted to make a USB bootable copy of the new OS, a 2 GB USB drive costs $5. I suspect that Apple w

    • ...or else their stock price might continue its perpetual slide into oblivion. I mean seriously, that company must be running on fumes now.

    • by Bobartig (61456)

      You do realize that Apple reduced the price of the upgrade by 75% while moving to App Store distribution, right? I'm not crazy about distributing a new OS over the App Store, but keep in mind Apple could have *EASILY* charged $129 for Lion and people would have paid for it.

      Also, pressing one DVD may cost pennies, but the screen printing costs several times that. Add in mastering costs, packaging, manufacturing, distribution, retail, suddenly you have half a dozen vertical chains to organize. That doesn't co

  • Are all Macs bootable from USB now? And is this a recent thing? I've never been able to get my 2007/2008ish MacBook 3.1 to boot Linux from a USB, so I've always had to burn it to CD first.
    • by creepynut (933825)

      I can't speak for the PowerPC macs, but as far as I know all the Intel Macs have been able to boot from USB. The catch is they can only boot from EFI formatted USB devices, not MBR.

      The Fedora Live CD has a way of creating EFI live USB sticks, but you have to burn the CD to get to it! I've never been able to get Ubuntu booting from USB.

      • I was able to boot from a SCSI zip drive in the early/mid 90s, so I imagine USB was supported as well (but never tried). It's not like the Windows world where you are constantly doing a clean install of the OS.

  • initial release of Lion is via the app store, a DVD will follow, at extra cost. It is no different to what a number of major PC companies have done, eg HP, with preinstalled versions of Windoze and a promise to reinstall if the HD fails under warranty. You can save the install app to a DVD or backup drive, you can install Lion on many of your home computers and reinstall Lion by mounting the repaired machine as a HD on the desktop of another Mac. or you can right click on the install app and burn the disk i

  • This is totally misguided!! Apple is totally shunning all those 56k people that... oh, that complaint came up already.

    Uh... Oh oh Apple insists you gotta use a proprietary screwdriver to... dang, that one's here, too.

    Ok.. ok... umm oh oh oh it's so confusing that they call it iOS, that's a Cisco thing!!

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