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Samsung Withdraws Counter-Suit Against Apple 172

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tekgoblin writes "Samsung has withdrawn a counter-suit against Apple in their ongoing legal battle which concerns similarities in the iOS device lineup against the Galaxy S lineup from Samsung. The counter-suit concerned the design of the user interface being very similar to that of Samsung's: 'related to fundamental innovations that increase mobile device reliability, efficiency, and quality, and improve user interface in mobile handsets and other products.'"
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Samsung Withdraws Counter-Suit Against Apple

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  • by teh31337one (1590023) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @12:19PM (#36646920)
    they've consolidated them to focus on their defence in this suit.
  • Re:Who gives a shit! (Score:4, Informative)

    by artor3 (1344997) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @12:32PM (#36646972)
    The iPhone interface -- a bunch of icons arranged in a grid, each of which launches a different task. See also: Windows 95.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 03, 2011 @01:06PM (#36647110)

    It would be like giving the company that released the first touch-tone phone exclusive rights over the layout and appearance of the touch-tone keypad.

    You need a better example, because that's exactly what happened in the US, up until Ma Bell was broken up. The phone company owned the very wiring in your house as well as the phones, not just the keypad design.

    Also, note that Apple is only suing Samsung for producing a device that looks a lot like the iPhone in many more ways than just a rectangular icon grid. Apple isn't suing Google over the Android UI, just Samsung for making the Android UI look more like the iPhone UI than other Android phones. In other words, a significant lack of originality on Samsung's part.

  • by Theovon (109752) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @01:11PM (#36647138)

    If it were the icons Apple was unhappy about, they'd be suing Google, because that's a function of Android. Rather, Apple's beef is with the bezel of certain Samsung phones looking remarkably like earlier iPhones. And in my opinion, they do look remarkably similar, with minor differences in things like the home button.

    But notice that I said "earlier iPhones." None of the Samsung phones look like the iPhone 4, while Apple has left behind the look of the original iPhone. So why is Apple so up in arms about Samsung copying a look they've deprecated? Well, one reason might be that Samsung was selling these phones while Apple was still selling the 3Gs, although I'm not sure if that's true. However, there are design patents and trademarks and copyrights pertaining to this look and feel that Apple legally must defend or else they risk losing exclusive rights to their IP.

    It's also pretty lame that Samsung can't be bothered to get their own design team to make their own unique look and feel. Apple spent a lot of R&D on theirs, so it's not right that Samsung just copies it. And don't tell me that the similarities are just coincidence. Of course, copying happens all the time. Even more significant than the look and feel was the concept of the iPhone itself. It was certainly not the first smart phone, but was the first to bring this level of usability to a touch screen without a stylus. THAT's really the hard part.... and it was Google that decided to ride on Apple's coat tails there. Now, it's vital that Apple have competition, to keep Apple on its toes, but that competition has to be innovative in its own right or else Apple will have really nothing to compete against except clones of itself. I saw this one Nokia phone that had a feature that Apple didn't come up with, which was to make the whole display a button that was clickable, so touching was one kind of input, and that was separate from clicking. I thought that was pretty cool.

  • by sessamoid (165542) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @01:18PM (#36647164)

    If it were the icons Apple was unhappy about, they'd be suing Google, because that's a function of Android. Rather, Apple's beef is with the bezel of certain Samsung phones looking remarkably like earlier iPhones. And in my opinion, they do look remarkably similar, with minor differences in things like the home button

    I don't own an Android phone, but looking at the photos of the Samsung phones and stock Android, Samsung clearly changed several of the icons and interface elements to mimic the iPhone in ways that Google seemed to have intentionally avoided. That's aside from the obvious hardware similarities that other Android phones do not share.

  • by rtfa-troll (1340807) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @01:28PM (#36647216)
    That seems to be 100% right. Samsung is still asserting the same claims, but now in the lawsuit Apple originally launched against them [pcworld.com]. They've also raised Apple another two patents.
  • by Adrian Lopez (2615) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @01:53PM (#36647322) Homepage

    As to the first one, there are many, many companies that pour tons of research and money in designs and they think those designs should be protected. Without these design patents, any car company can copy the look of the VW Beetle, any soda company can copy the red and white designs of Coca-Cola. Do you think these companies should be able to protect their designs?

    "Look and feel" isn't a design patent issue, but rather a "trade dress" (trademark) issue. The red and white design of the Coca-Cola can is an example of trade dress, but I don't think that's quite the same thing as claiming exclusive rights over a GUI's design. Unlike soda can logos, GUIs and their layouts are largely functional in nature and should therefore not be subject to trademark protection. Icons used as part of a GUI may be subject to copyright protection, but similar-looking icons should be perfectly legal (e.g. a calendar icon can only look so much different from another calendar icon). What remains of a GUI's look and feel beyond all that should not, in my opinion, be protected by "look and feel" trademarks.

  • by phantomfive (622387) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @02:26PM (#36647460) Journal
    It's a funny picture and cool story, but it's just not true [androidcommunity.com].
  • by CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @03:17PM (#36647650)

    I've posted this before, but what the hell. Everyone with common sense can see Samsung was imitating the iPhone was recent releases. It was so blatant that reviewers couldn't fail to mention it. It doesn't matter where you fall on the issue, who you think should win or if there should even be a lawsuit at all, that much should be clear.

    First Look: Samsung Vibrant Rips Off iPhone 3G Design [wired.com]
    Review: The IPhone Look Alike Samsung Eternity SGH-A867 (AT&T) [associatedcontent.com]
    Samsung Galaxy S Review [slashgear.com] : "In the time we’ve been carrying the Galaxy S, more than a few people – geeks included – have mistaken it for an iPhone 3GS. The glossy black plastic and metal-effect bezel both echo Apple’s second/third-gen smartphone"

    Check out the comparison shot in the first link and tell me that isn't of a whole different order than your comparison picture.

  • by EEPROMS (889169) on Sunday July 03, 2011 @05:02PM (#36648222)
    Apple's beef is with the bezel of certain Samsung phones looking remarkably like earlier iPhones.

    Yes but the early iphones look exactly like the the award winning LG prada, you know the full screen mobile phone with a silver bezel around the edge and icons in a checkerboard layout that was released a year before the iphone.

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