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Apple Proposes Smaller SIM Card Design 198

An anonymous reader writes with word that Apple, as reported by Reuters, has proposed a smaller SIM card standard. Says the Orange executive quoted, "We were quite happy to see last week that Apple has submitted a new requirement to (European telecoms standards body) ETSI for a smaller SIM form factor -- smaller than the one that goes in iPhone 4 and iPad." Hard to believe that any phone designed for the human hand could be much limited by the size of the current micro-SIMs, but this is one race to the bottom I'm pleased with.
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Apple Proposes Smaller SIM Card Design

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  • Thinner devices? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @07:34PM (#36172814)

    That is the justification for the need for smaller sim cards. Frankly, the sim card is thin enough (I'm sure it could be thinner, but it is still much thinner than the device). And all that is used is a bunch of contacts from the sim. I fail to see how a smaller sim card would do away with much of the thickness.

  • Dare I say it? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by newcastlejon ( 1483695 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @07:35PM (#36172822)

    This has less to do with practical concerns about footprint and more about making sim-swapping even harder. Are they really saying a ~1cm^2 SIM is too big, even in an iPad?

    Karma be damned, Apple only need that bulky SIM holder because there isn't a user-replaceable battery and its associated cover. I've had enough other brand phones to see that there are better (i.e. smaller) ways to hold a SIM.

  • by tophermeyer ( 1573841 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @08:10PM (#36173088)

    If SIM's get down to the size of MicroSD (or smaller) they will be out of the range of sizes that average users will be able to handle themselves. To me this sounds a lot like Apple trying to create some kind of lock-in, where users are completely free to replace their SIM but not realistically able to.

  • Re:Dare I say it? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Microlith ( 54737 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @08:11PM (#36173092)

    Are they really saying a ~1cm^2 SIM is too big, even in an iPad?

    A physically smaller, but otherwise identical, SIM card would be easy for most vendors to get behind. Reduced z-height and board area would be welcomed, considering that the average SIM card is mostly plastic and larger in all 3 dimensions than the average microSD card. And yes, all manufacturers take those parameters into consideration.

    I've had enough other brand phones to see that there are better (i.e. smaller) ways to hold a SIM.

      But no way to reduce the physical, internal footprint of the SIM card itself, short of eliminating all the plastic and soldering it in entirely or redesigning the packaging (which is mostly plastic and huge contacts.)

  • MicroSIM? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by WiiVault ( 1039946 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @08:28PM (#36173270)
    I assume your not trying to call the standardized MicroSIM an evil plot by Apple. Sometimes I wonder why some folks can't just be happy criticizing Apple for all the real crap they do and must instead make up absurd new conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact.
  • by mellon ( 7048 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @09:10PM (#36173636) Homepage

    Strictly speaking, it's a lock-out strategy. Whenever I travel abroad, I have to talk the local cell provider into selling me a standard SIM, which I then have to cut down to fit in the tiny slot in my giant iPad (most providers claim to sell Micro-SIMs, but they never seem to have them in stock). Whereas I can put a standard SIM in my Nexus S. Guess why I bought a Nexus S instead of an iPhone 4? (Well, okay, partly it was because it was unlocked, but the non-hassle-factor is pretty major too.) If Apple comes up with a SIM that can't even be cut down, that'll be a *really* strong reason not to buy whatever device depends on it.

    Honestly, "too large" hasn't been a factor in my cell phone purchases in a *long* time. I don't want a screen the size of my thumbnail anyway. Sometimes standard is more important than small.

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