Hands On With Apple IPad 2 432
adeelarshad82 writes "Yesterday's announcement of the second-generation iPad showed exactly why there was so much excitment around the device. As the video hands on shows, iPad 2 makes up for all the things lacking in the original iPad. The 1GHz dual-core A5 chip does justice to apps like Photo Booth and over all user experience. Moreover, while the screen carries the same resolution, Apple was able to pack it in a noticably thinner iPad 2. Infact its dimensions, 13.4 mm to 8.8mm thick, make it 33% thinner than iPhone 4. Also while the cameras aren't HD, the inclusion itself provides an opportuntiy for Facetime, which is actually more interactive than what we've seen so far on other Apple devices."
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iPad 3.5 will probably come with Palladium 3.5, where even sites like Youtube will be charged for streaming to iDevice users.
Already, Netflix, Kindle, etc. are on the chopping block on the App Store unless they pay up 30% of the user's fees to Apple. Want to read your Kindle books or Netflix movies on the iPad? Be forced to pay up to cover Apple's tax. The best thing is that according to Apple's rules, the price has to be same for other devices too, so even if you don't use the iDevices, expect your prices
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Readability was kicked off the App Store for failing to pay up
heh, Readability (the company that charges 30% of revenue to publishers of content) was quoted about Apple's (the company that charges 30% of revenue to publishers of content) policy: it "smacks of greed"
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I've been really impressed by the new iPad. I'd snap one up in a second if I didn't dislike Apple's controlling nature and the fanboyism so prevalent among its customers.
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Readability doesn't charge publishers. How ignorant or desperate are you?
Want a bet [readability.com]?
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In the same way Apple doesn't charge, they pay.
I fail to see the difference, perhaps I'm ignorant.
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Readability charges users a fee. Readability pays writers and publishers 70% of that fee.
In the same way that Apple charges users a fee. Apple pays writers and publishers 70% of that fee.
Again, like the other poster said, where's the difference? Are you confused?
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No, but they collect membership fees and revert 70% of these to the writers. 30% agency fees, for doing exactly squat besides rebranding and reformatting the content, would be considered exorbitant and unconscionable in just about any other business.
I work with a lot of independent filmmakers and the "Readability" model has been with them for the last 10 years or so -- small fly-by-night "distributors" who take a huge cut of revenue and fees in exchange for making your movie available on their shitty burn-on-demand DVD website and offering it, with zero promotion and for bargain-basement prices on iTunes and Movielink and iFilm and all the other crap distribution channels that have come and gone the last decade. They're slimeballs and all they care about is putting themselves in-between artists and eyeballs, and doing as little as possible for their fees.
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70% of the micropayments, that is. In order to put your content on a device which already allows you to sell your content for the same split, let alone other storefronts and platforms which offer different more-or-less favorable terms -- you can sell on the Kindle store, for example, which gives you a better share and more audience but doesn't le
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" and the fanboyism so prevalent among its customers"
Oh, please. Knee jek regurgitations of false memes are getting old. File that one in the same drawer as BSOD.
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he best thing is that according to Apple's rules, the price has to be same for other devices too, so even if you don't use the iDevices, expect your prices to go up because of Apple's policies.
I'm not a fan of Apple but I think that's a misinterpretation. The rule is that the Apple device user has to be charged the same price if they buy the service outside the app store. So really all companies would have to do would be to add an extra fee on their site to enable streaming to i-devices, right?
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My understanding is Apple wants a 30% cut. However they don't want providers to charge extra on Apple devices - so basically publishers have two choices:
1) Keep the price the same, and if the provider was making 30% or less already per sale, potentially lose money per sale.
2) Raise the price for all and have non iOS users essentially pay a 30% tax for Apple.
3) Don't release on iOS and lose that customer base.
This is MY understanding. If I'm wrong please let me know.
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They've been on the chopping block for several weeks now and nothing has happened. For example, the latest version of the Kindle app [apple.com] was published on the App Store on the 14th and has been downloadable to this day. Apple's made no statements about how they're going to apply these rules to Netfilx and Kindle, and all we can do is extrapolate.
All we have is one data point from a frustrated vanity publisher who's upset, really, because it's not him getting that 30% instead of Apple. He wants to pretend he's
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Readability has been resubmitted (Score:2)
It's not clear how this will shake out. Apple's position is not tenable without some clearer wording and compromises. As it stands, they are looking to cut their nose to spite their face... but Apple isn't stupid or crazy and they are probably well aware that their unmodified policy could damage their ecosystem, entice government regulation, and spoil their brand.
My take: they will clarify the rules and target the Amazon (and possibly Netflix) model of apps, while leaving others with minor/no impact... if
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While I agree that the In-App Subscription guidelines overreach on Apple's part, I think it's important to point out that the "30% for Apple" ONLY applies in cases where a new subscriber signs up for the services using the in-app subscription functionality. Existing subscribers, and subscribers who sign up using say, a non-iOS device, or the service's website, are exempted from this
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I believe that the rules are structured to prevent that. Something along the lines of, "if a subscription offer is made outside the app, the same or better offer is made inside the app as well, using the in-app subscription functionality that Apple has built." I can't say this is certainly disallowed, but it seems like a fairly obvious loophole that runs counter to the strategy they seem to be pursuing.
Re:Not enough (Score:5, Funny)
I think iPad 3.11 for workgroups will be good enough for me.
Dup (Score:2)
Product was covered yesterday. This is an article about a review.
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There's a link to yesterday's article right there in the summary, so there may have been some awareness and intention behind this posting.
makes up for all the things lacking in original... (Score:3, Insightful)
Does the Bluetooth support an external mouse and keyboard?
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Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desires (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (Score:5, Funny)
There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory, and it's a tradeoff to get them.
I absolutely agree! I'll list some for the detractors:
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You either understand why its exclusion is a good thing or you don't, so there's nothing to add there.
Wow. That's some arrogance. Did you really mean to say: "Either you agree with apple, or you are wrong."
There are certain advantages to having sealed, fixed memory
Can you actually name any that are relevant?
Not having to manipulate a file system isn't one by the way. My car stereo handles CDs, mp3 disks, flash memory, and ipods, and all the complicated file system stuff is completely invisible... I just push the source button. I guess that would be too overwhelming for an iDevice user?
Another example is the Nintendo Wii file system management which a 4 year old has no trouble with.
Meanwhile the multiple advantages of removable storage however are blindingly obvious.
Arguing about the trade-offs of expandable/removable storage its about as idiotic as as arguing about the trade offs of wearing a motorcycle helmet. (In that yes, there are circumstances where not having a helmet on would be advantageous... but the disadvantages thoroughly outweigh any advantages.)
but you're NOT going to see those in iOS products
This same arguments about how you didn't need were made about native application development and multi-tasking...
The main reason there is no expandable memory is that:
a) Steve Job's obsessively hates slots and buttons, and is more than willing to sacrifice function to get form.
b) If you can slide in your own 8GB SD card for $50, why would you pay hundreds of dollars extra for one with extra memory?
Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (Score:5, Insightful)
The main reason there is no expandable memory is that:
a) Steve Job's obsessively hates slots and buttons, and is more than willing to sacrifice function to get form.
b) If you can slide in your own 8GB SD card for $50, why would you pay hundreds of dollars extra for one with extra memory?
Yep. Those are the two most likely reasons. Charging $40 for a video dongle is ridiculous and $40 for their magic cover is equally ridiculous.
But so what? I don't get the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth caused by Apple releases. If those prices are too high or you don't like their marketing practices or the devices don't do what you need them to do then DO NOT BUY THEM. If someone else is perfectly happy to pay said prices for said items and they do not care about expandable memory and don't have any idea about Steve Jobs' personal taste then who the fuck cares?
No one needs to own an Apple device. No one is forced to own an Apple device. No one is entitled to own an Apple device.
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If those prices are too high or you don't like their marketing practices or the devices don't do what you need them to do then DO NOT BUY THEM
Any particular reason I shouldn't remark about why I didn't buy them?
I don't get the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth caused by Apple releases
I don't get the fanboi fawning caused by them either. I think the two balance each other out, and its likely that the anti-reaction is in direct proportion to the fanboi-fawning reaction
Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (Score:4, Insightful)
Try again.
Re:Your needs/desires aren't everyone's needs/desi (Score:5, Informative)
I have a Motorola Xoom on my desk right now as I type this.
Your long list of silliness about the "Zoom" includes: silly things that imply complexity, "25 pounds", USB port, "three 9-volt batteries".
In order:
The UI is a bit more busy than an iPad, with more little options, but I haven't found it at all hard to use.
According to specs, it is 730 grams, which is exactly the same as an iPad with 3G. Note that the second generation iPad 2 is listed as 600 grams; presumably that is not including the 3G option but it is still a win for Apple. On the other hand, an M16 rifle weighs about 8 pounds, so your innuendo is that the Xoom probably weighs three times as much as the Apple product; clearly false.
Yes, the Xoom has a USB port. That is a good feature and I like it. The iPad has a USB port, but only if you put a special dongle on the special Apple connector. But I guess your point was that it would be silly for a rifle to have a USB port. In that case, please list the actual features of the Xoom that are silly. You might, for example, mock the Xoom for having a barometer; but it adds no significant weight or cost, and it will be very useful for certain applications, and I don't see how you could claim it makes the Xoom harder to use, so perhaps it's not that silly after all.
As for batteries, the Xoom has built-in sealed battery pack, just like the iPad. The iPad claimed battery life is 9 hours for the 3G model; the Xoom claimed battery life is 8 hours, with a faster processor. The iPad 2 claims to have 9 or 10 hour battery life.
I think the actual specs show that the Xoom is not quite as slick as an iPad but it is in the ballpark, and I personally do not want to shackle myself to Apple's ecosystem. If you want a device that gives you the most freedom, then the Xoom is a worthy option. If you want the slickest device currently made, then get an iPad 2.
steveha
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The problem is, Apple presumes all users are stupid. If you have stupid users plus multitasking, you will recharge your device more often. I completely agree with that. On the other hand, you can have smart users plus multitasking and not recharge more often; rather, just a more productive user. The difference is, Apple completely removes that option. By definition, Apple is excluding smart users from their target audience.
Two corrections... (Score:5, Informative)
1. It is 33% thinner than the first iPad. It is also thinner than the iPhone 4, but only slightly.
2. The rear camera is, in fact, HD.
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Yeah, but does it have an app that will build you an island and fucking transform it into a jet and fly you there?
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True, but don't let the "HD" label fool you. Yes, it is 720p resolution for video, and comparable video on the iPod Touch 4G is quite respectable and decent. But resolution will also be 720p for stills as well--similar to the camera specs of the iPod Touch 4G--something like .7 mega pixel. (Yes, that's "point seven".) The resolution will be a far cry from the iPhone's 5 mega-pixel resolution.
As a long-time iPod Touch owner, and current iPod Touch 4G owner, I can say that
Re:Two corrections... (Score:5, Funny)
True, but don't let the "HD" label fool you. Yes, it is 720p resolution for video, and comparable video on the iPod Touch 4G is quite respectable and decent. But resolution will also be 720p for stills as well
Which is fine for video calling, barcodes and getting an image when you don't have anything else. Plus, lower resolution often translates to better low light performance and lower noise. For taking proper photos, use a proper camera with a lens bigger than a baby's thumbnail. Even a phone is better ergonomically than a 10" fondleslab.
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Fondleslab? Oh, god, that's brilliant. It almost sounds like faux-German. Bravo, sir.
However, I own a 1st gen iPad, and I also own a good quality DSLR plus a small digital point-and-shoot -- for me, I can't imagine why anybody would *want* a camera in that device, but someone must because it's one of the things I see people bitching about the most. Then again, my cell phone is used only for, well, phone calls ... and even then, not very often.
Th
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I could see augmented reality being fairly valuable and I kind of like the idea of taking quick videos and being able to edit them right on the iPad (I would like that on the iPhone), never mind the front facing camera allowing for Facetime.
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It is 33% thinner
So is Steve Jobs.
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HD means nothing.
No, "HD" has meaning [wikipedia.org]. The wikipedia article even defines it relative to other resolutions. Did you just not bother to look and see if there's a spec for "HD"?
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You probably are. If you'd been around before HD, you would probably remember that HD is at least one million pixels - well, at least "nominally" one million. You can argue about which side of 1M matters, but 720p (720x1280=920k) is HD, - you can thank the TV guys who advertised that a 12" TV screen was really 13" because the tub was that size, you just couldn't see it since there was a bezel in the way.
If you want to know my feeling, interlaced video had no business existing past about 1975, so I've alwa
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Am I the only one who gets annoyed when someone claims a camera or a display is HD?
Yes. The rest of your kind died out at the turn of the century.
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Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (Score:4, Interesting)
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these are available through the main apple i/o connector with the camera connection kit. it includes adapter for standard usb 2.0 and adapter for SD card. USB comes with complete support for larger variety of of photo and video camera's including iPhone. It is also works with a variety of keyboards and headphones.
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The real problem with the
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It is also works with a variety of keyboards and headphones.
I've actually been surprised by the number of things it works seamlessly with. Not just headphones, but I plugged in a portable USB microphone/instrument preamp and it recognized and made it available as a stereo audio source and also an output via the preamp's monitor connection. As for keyboards, computer keyboards yeah, but it also recognizes and powers USB MIDI (piano) keyboards. The synth software available on the iPad is a bit limited compared to what's available on a laptop or desktop system, but it'
Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (Score:4, Insightful)
so where are these tablets with the same or better specs than the iPad but cheaper price?
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They're called netbooks :)
*ducks*
Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (Score:4, Informative)
Except, of course, that they aren't.
The FAA recently certified iPads for pilots to use for charts. There's never been a netbook that even attempted that task.
A tablet is not a netbook any more than a shrimp is a clam.
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Well, price wasn't really an issue before - people using Apple stuff paid the premium price, and just had to deal with a ton of neckbeards yelling "zomg its overpriced!!".
Now the tables are turned for the moment and no one seems to be able to make a decent tablet for less than or equal to the iPad's price (and now the iPad 2), despite the 6 to 7 months of crowing from the /. crowd that "cheaper, better Android tablets" would soon come along and topple the iPad's dominance.
Instead, we had a virtually unchall
Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (Score:4, Insightful)
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No different then the Xoom. For only $55, and a call to cancel service you didn't need, you can have WiFi on your new Honeycomb tablet. ($20 mandatory one month 3g service to enable WiFi + $35 activation fee for said 3G service).
I appreciate Apple more for not charging for WiFi, vs Google and Motorola allowing Verizon to charge for WiFi.
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Actually, no, the Xoom doesn't do SD cards out of the box. It has a slot, but the OS ignores it.
And sure, it has a USB port that lets you add content to the device. Out of the box the iPad also comes with a cable with USB on one end that does the same, and also charges the device. The Xoom's USB doesn't charge. So whats the benefit of it over the iPad?
People keep demanding USB, but they never quantify why.
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It DOES have a microSD card slot, but it DOES NOT work (at least yet, maybe we should wait for 4.0 or something).
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Sorry, but given the chunk of the tablet market that the iPad owns, I think it's safe to say that you can't expect "most normal tablets" to have those features, because "most normal tablets" are iPads.
Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (Score:4, Insightful)
so like all apple things, for $20-40 extra you can do what most normal tablets would be expected to do...
Normal Tablets, I heard of them, usually followed by the term "market failure". Sure it would be great to have these features, but lets face it, Apple made a tablet people actually want, and a part of that was taking away features. It definitely isn't for the Slashdot crowd, but I don't recall us being that keen on tablets with these features either.
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Until then, hey, they're cool for checking the
Re:Makes up for all the things lacking in iPad1? (Score:4, Insightful)
WTF are you letting your people put removable storage into your devices? I thought that was phased out a decade ago to keep virii from jumping on the corporate network. And what are you going to use it for - it all comes with wireless N, email and a web browser that can be pointed to your internal server. You're not going to get any faster transfer with a marketing USB dongle (that is usually dog slow) or a class 6 (or even class 10) SD card. I suppose I can buy the HDMI thing, but you're going to have to carry a dongle for that VGA connection anyway, and presuming you even allow Macs on your network they already have to carry an adapter to go from DP to, well, anything useful.
Now, if you want to complain about having to install iTunes on your corporate machines - THAT is, imho, a real issue.
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Well, if your internal sites are flash, you are, indeed, hosed. Since the A4/A5 processors aren't x86 compatible, and you'd have to write your internal apps from scratch anyway, why not move to a secure web interface instead? Then - if you weren't too reliant on a particular browser - you would be cross platform for whomever needed to access the system. Of course, if flash is what the devs are using...well, that sucks on many levels.
As for sending large files, you may as well use a cloud service or your o
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Problem is, no mobile device (phone/tablet) is adding a real HDMI port. They are too big and bulky, and single use. The Xoom has mini HDMI, so you still need something other then a standard cheap HDMI to HDMI cable around. And of course that also assumes you have a projector with HDMI. Many are still VGA, so why not also add a bulky VGA port to the device? Because now your are adding more ports to a ultra portable device that can't afford the space to a feature very few customers will rely on all the t
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What is the corporate need for actual USB, actual SD and actual HDMI ports on the device? What features would each one bring that the adaptors can't bring that make them mandatory for corporate use?
USB is the most puzzling one to me, since noone ever explains what they want with it. Do you want a USB host port, or a slave port, or both? Which connector? What devices do you then expect to attach to it?
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USB is the most puzzling one to me, since noone ever explains what they want with it. Do you want a USB host port, or a slave port, or both? Which connector? What devices do you then expect to attach to it?
I assume they want to read/write files from a USB flash drive.
From Apple's POV, though, I imagine the problem with USB or SD card slots is the same as that for the user-replaceable battery: thickness would have to increase. Frankly, I'm surprised the current one has room for the dock connector.
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I have yet to see any tablet offer a USB port directly on the device that accepts a keyboard, so Apple really isn't behind or ahead anyone in this area. They do support USB keyboards when plugged in via the dock to usb adaptor, or bluetooth ones. Most other tablets have only announced support for bluetooth keyboards.
A mouse? Tablet OS from Apple, Google, HP(Palm) and RIM have no concept of a mouse. Plugging this in would do nothing, and adding support would be pretty against the overall design of any of
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Errr... Apple sells a video out cable for the iPad. I bought it. Kinda useless unless you're going on a trip and want to watch TV on the hotel screen, but it does exist.
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If by "never" you mean "right now, supported on the iPad 1 via the video out adapter", then you are correct.
Do Apple bashers even look up the nonsense they spout?
What next? "You'll never get audio out of an iPad!" ?
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This was already made available by the camera kit in version 1. What is lacking is the driver support.
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I dont think that Apple will ever launch anything with removable storage on it.
You don't seem to be familiar with Apple products. You should probably refrain from posting about them.
I'm not going to waste my time doing your research for you.
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"or USB port?"
The first thing I think about when dealing with a new highly portable device is how many wires I can plug into it. The portability is directly proportional to the number of wires hanging out of it. Or was that indirectly proportional?
Sometimes it's useful when portable devices talk to each other and USB is one of the current existing standards.
Without USB, iPad users are stuck with hacks and workarounds that would seem absurd to Apple fanboys if it was anyone else perpetrating them.
Everything that an iPad does comes with arbitrary unecessary limits. This is why no Apple tablet will displace proper portable computers.
Sometimes it's useful to allow a portable device to talk with another device without the platform tyrant getting in the wa
But has it appeased Hitler? (Score:5, Funny)
Truely, if it is perfect, we should not expect another Hitler Rant video...
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The appropriate Hitler rant here would be the CEO's of the competitors who have not even managed to compete with the iPad1, and here's Apple shipping version 2 before half the competitors have their tablets shipping.
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What are you talking about? Did somebody make up a video of Hitler ranting about some gadget?
LOL, there is a German comedian (Gerhard Polt) who took video footage of a speech Hitler held, and overspoke the audio with a rant about being conned in a leasing contract. Search Youtube for "Hitler Leasingvertrag" if you understand German, I still have to laugh after having it seen approx. 50 times.
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Probably referring to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcU3a-rO7KY [youtube.com]
A while back there was an internet meme going around where people were taking that scene from the movie Untergang and putting on their own subtitles to have Hitler rant about various subjects, then the films producer started asking for them to be removed and many disappeared from youtube and elsewhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untergang#Parodies [wikipedia.org]
The razor wire (Score:3, Insightful)
Apple missed the mark again (Score:2)
My opinion only but I think Apple dropped the ball with the iPad again. Why not provide a stylus and an app that would make the iPad behave like electronic paper. You could take notes in class, in meetings, draw tech diagrams, etc? Have it do OCR on whatever you write and have it produce a typed document (PDF) and keep the original handwritten work as well.
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All available from third parties. Welcome to 2010.
Best iPad Stylus Pens Review [hubpages.com]
WritePad for iPad [apple.com]
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Look at the nubs on those stylus pens. They are too thick. It would be like taking notes by using the tip of your finger. They do not allow for the finer control and thinner lines that you get with a pen (or pencil) on a piece of paper.
Watched the WritePad demo. I've seen other software by other vendors. They are all the same. Again, you don't get the fine control like you do on paper with a pen.
What I'm talking about is being able to write more the 4 words on the iPad before you have to refresh the s
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You know the real revolution of the Sholes and Glidden [wikipedia.org] was that you could type on it faster than you could write. If something has a keyboard, and you can take for granted that the user population has keyboarding skills, handwriting recognition is useless baggage.
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Sure. Draw making a sketch or drawing in class with a keyboard. By the time you are done recreating the diagram your prof drew, he/she has already moved on through 2 other topics.
What I want is basically electronic paper.
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The iPad is a large form factor, personal media consumption device with social networking. It's not for taking notes, or writing term papers, or shooting a Filipino horror movie in NYC. I don't think capacitive screens will do what you want to do with any sort of accuracy. Its the trade off of a smooth, finger based interface - accuracy sucks.
Personally, I'd like the idea of that feature, too. I'd also like a higher resolution camera and a "digital copier" function that would let me capture pages to PDF w
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There are many vendors who sell styluses for the iPad already. They don't have the ability to sense pressure like, say, a Waccom tablet, but they are fine for things like general note taking. I agree that it would be a really nice feature for Apple to add, but I can see why it is not their top priority – there is only so many hours in the year.
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Why not provide a stylus and an app that would make the iPad behave like electronic paper. You could take notes in class, in meetings, draw tech diagrams, etc? Have it do OCR on whatever you write and have it produce a typed document (PDF) and keep the original handwritten work as well.
You do realize this was the entire premise of the Microsoft Tablet PC platform, right? You know, the one that's been selling for nearly a decade?
If Microsoft hasn't dominated the tablet market in that time, from their position of utmost strength, then perhaps the pen/tablet strategy isn't the solution (and Apple realized this).
CmdrTaco says that it's Overrated! (Score:2)
No Flash support. Less storage than a laptop. He still can't play World Of Warcraft on it. Lame. ;)
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CmdrTaco needs to try harder then for his WoW needs:
http://media.techeblog.com/images/ipad_worldofwarcraft.jpg [techeblog.com] :-)
Just the beginning (Score:2)
Tablets are getting me excited about computing again. A look at Texas Instruments' OMAP SoC roadmap promises some very interesting upcoming capabilities that will find their way into future devices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omap#OMAP_5 [wikipedia.org]
All the excitement? (Score:2)
All the excitement? Really? This is the second story I've heard on the iPad 2. Yay... There was far more excitement around the original iPad than the iPad 2. "All the excitement" amounts to "Ho-Hum, a new iPad it the features the first one should have had."
Please... it's a "new" Apple product. Beyond that, there's nothing special about it and the tech news world pretty much agrees. Giving it the same amount of coverage as any other new product from a major company.
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"Yesterday's announcement of the ninth-generation iPed showed exactly why there was so much excitment around the device. As the video hands on shows, iPed 8 makes up for all the things lacking in the original iPed. The 1THz eigth-core A9 chip does justice to apps like Video Booth and over all user experience. Moreover, while the screen carries even more resolution, Orange was able to pack it in a noticably thinner iPed 5. Infact its dimensions, 1.34 mm to 0.88mm thick, make it 93% thinner than a sheet of paper. Also while the cameras are 4K, the inclusion itself provides an opportuntiy for Fecetime, which is actually more interactive than what we've seen so far on other Tomato devices."
Looks like it could be wronger.
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There's a sucker born every minute [wikipedia.org]
Congratulations to you for finding one of them.
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A-GPS is real GPS. The difference is that it can use cellular information to find the GPS signal faster than a regular GPS device. While it is true that the bundled Maps app does need an internet connection, there are lots of different mapping apps in the store that work just fine while offline.
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That was...hilarious. What is this guy, sweedish?
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I've read, and from I've seen myself, that facetime on the iphone 4 uses about 4mb/min (2mb/min up and 2mb/min down).