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Steve Jobs Health Worries Escalate 520

Posted by timothy
from the hope-he's-got-more-tricks-up-his-sleeve dept.
PolygamousRanchKid writes with this sad snippet from the San Francisco Chronicle: "We all know that Steve Jobs is sick. What's not known is how sick he is, and that's worrying investors of Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) this morning, as well as everyone else. Jobs did have pancreatic cancer a few years ago, but he had a transplant and was able to come back to work. Last time, he gave some kind of time frame for returning to work. This time, he did not. Supposedly the National Enquirer is set to run pictures of Jobs with him looking frail and gaunt. Jobs was spotted leaving the Stanford Cancer Center in Palo Alto, California, according to RadarOnline.com."
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Steve Jobs Health Worries Escalate

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  • who cares (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:11PM (#35237798)

    who cares? let the man live his own life

  • by deutschemonte (764566) <lane.montgomeryNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:14PM (#35237834) Homepage

    Leave him alone!

    -Android Fanboy

  • by Super Dave Osbourne (688888) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:17PM (#35237862)
    and the reasons are multiple... - I don't own stock in Apple, its over priced anyway for a consumer electronics company. - Steve Jobs wouldn't give a crap if I was dying, nor would I get press for my health issues. - The market knows he is not the messiah, and Apple as a mega corp will continue on with the wisdom of many other vested parties. - Health issues should be private, kept private and not trivialized by news media. - Respect the privacy of others, too many people in the media don't. and the list goes on and one. Just make it a non story by wishing him the best and in the afterlife and if he is reborn he is more than a toad or troll for his massive good deeds to the people he has destroyed and belittled.
  • by MooseMuffin (799896) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:20PM (#35237928)
    Seriously, leave him alone. Even more so if he's actually dying.
  • Stock (Score:5, Insightful)

    by scubamage (727538) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:20PM (#35237934)
    Man, i may dump my savings into apple stock once it bottoms out after his death. There's going to be a massive unloading, we all know it.
  • by scubamage (727538) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:22PM (#35237958)
    Not to mention he wasn't the genius behind Apple. Steve Wozniak was. In fact in numerous interviews about all Steve Jobs had a hand in in actually designing the original Apple computers was insisting that the power supply be a certain color for aesthetics. The real work was done by a man whom half the nation probably has no idea exists.
  • The National Enquirer talks about running photos of Steve, and the entire news media gets a hard on and starts running stories on this. Has the media degraded so far that we are now counting the National Enquirer as a reliable news source?

    The only people who are escalating the health worries here are the media itself to push for circulation. It's not news, it's bullshit. Thanks for contributing to the bullshit, Timothy.

  • by Pieroxy (222434) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:29PM (#35238064) Homepage

    Can't we just leave him alone? I mean, when he bashes on Google openly, let the press and everyone else fire full power. It's fair game.

    But now? Doesn't he deserve some privacy or even just some respect? Not because of what he's done, be because of what he is living right now.

  • Re:who cares (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Tanktalus (794810) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:29PM (#35238068) Journal
    I'm not sure why this is marked troll. Seriously, let's keep peoples' private lives private, and only publicise public aspects of their lives.
  • by SavoWood (650474) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:37PM (#35238166) Homepage

    When the pictures come from The National Enquirer, you really need to consider the source. Also, the doctor making this prognosis was doing so based on the pictures. Didn't we all jump on the idiot in Congress a few years ago for diagnosing that woman in Florida using a short video clip?

    Let's take this to a conspiracy level and say people are putting out this news to get the stock price to drop a bit so they can snap it up and wait for the retraction of the article and the stock goes back up, they make a pretty penny.

  • by blair1q (305137) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:49PM (#35238320) Journal

    I highly doubt his money helped him get a liver any faster.

    It probably kept him alive long enough to reach the top of the list, though.

    And anyone saying he hasn't done anything useful since they buttoned it up is not paying attention.

  • by blair1q (305137) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @06:52PM (#35238374) Journal

    Woz was the technical genius who put the parts together to make the new product simple enough to be useful to millions.

    Jobs is the one who ensured millions understood why it was useful.

    History is littered with people who thought you could be Apple by skimping on either of those talents.

  • by Kjella (173770) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @07:24PM (#35238802) Homepage

    Most likely the one who steps up will fail exactly because he's not Steve Jobs, no matter what he does. What Apple has done is to overcome the catch 22 of users and content because Jobs has a following of rabid fans and loyal developers big enough to kick start any market. It's like setting off a nuke, you need critical mass or you get a fizzle.

    Jobs has the customers go "yeah" then the developers go "yeah" then the tech press goes "yeah" and the cheers runs in circles. The next guy will have the customers go "ummmmmm" then the developers go "ummmmmm" then the tech press goes "ummmmmmm" and the doubt runs in circles. Apple can spiral down just as quick as they've spiraled up.

  • Haven't you heard? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by denzacar (181829) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @07:35PM (#35238926) Journal

    Maybe he's just a guy with cancer who doesn't want to spend his last days dying in the public eye while they discuss how to best profit from his passing?

    You forfeit your privacy rights when you sign that "rich AND famous" contract.
    And a part of your human rights goes down the drain when you turn yourself into a brand.
    You don't get to be in the spotlight and not take in some heat from the lights.

    Think about it. Would Woz, in a similar situation, be facing the same privacy problems as Jobs? How about Paul Allen?

    That is why I keep my wishes simple. I just want to be rich. Someone else can be famous. E.g. the getaway driver.
    He can have all the fame in the world as long as I'm free to keep and use the money. In fact...

  • Re:who cares (Score:2, Insightful)

    by DurendalMac (736637) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @07:59PM (#35239146)
    "Mouth breather"? The guy took a company that was less than a year from bankruptcy and turned it into a ludicrously profitable empire with the second largest market cap in the US and $6 billion in profits last quarter. If Jobs is a "mouth breather" then everyone on /. is a fucking drooling retard with a bike helmet and a padded room.
  • Re:who cares (Score:4, Insightful)

    by crymeph0 (682581) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @08:38PM (#35239426)
    Even a healthy Steve Jobs could get hit by a bus tomorrow. If you find yourself needing to know the health details of a particular individual before buying a stock, you shouldn't be looking at that stock in the first place. It is not healthy for a company as large as Apple to be dependent on a single man. Mind you, I bet Apple has plenty of excellent designers, and will actually survive the eventual demise of Steve Jobs, whether it's tonight or 1000 years from now, but the reality distortion field around Jobs seems to make otherwise reasonable people forget very basic rules of investing and value.
  • Re:who cares (Score:5, Insightful)

    by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @09:11PM (#35239668)

    who cares?

    The shareholders of his publicly-traded personality cult care.

  • Re:who cares (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hairyfeet (841228) <{bassbeast1968} {at} {gmail.com}> on Thursday February 17, 2011 @09:24PM (#35239770) Journal

    Because unlike with other CxOs Steve Jobs has purposely built a cult of personality around him that will seriously affect the stock. A good example of the difference is MSFT, where if you ask the average Joe they still think Gates runs the thing. If Ballmer was hit by a car tomorrow nobody outside the tech world would take much notice and it is doubtful that the stock would take a nosedive.

    Now compare that to Jobs where we HAVE seen the stock take a serious hit just from a phony death rumor. IMHO Steve Jobs has failed Apple by not pushing a successor the second he came back from the transplant. he should have been grooming his successor from day one and pushing them beside him in the spotlight wherever possible. instead you have had Steve take front and center (typical narcissist behavior) the SECOND he was able to get back to work and all talks about successors went the way of the Newton.

    So honestly Steve deserves no privacy because he brought it upon himself by making himself the center of the Apple universe and not doing anything to stop the "cult of Steve" hell if anything he pumped it up. So just like any other business where rightly or wrongly success if believed to hinge on a key component or player, so too does Steve's health affect the bottom line and the shareholders have a right to know. If Steve didn't want it to be this way he could have been sharing the spotlight and grooming his replacement, but I guess Steve doesn't do well with sharing.

  • by SuperKendall (25149) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @10:13PM (#35240150)

    Because unlike with other CxOs Steve Jobs has purposely built a cult of personality around him that will seriously affect the stock.

    That's bullshit. He's already left, the stock took a small dive but is higher than ever now. Most people at this point (except for Apple Haters) are pretty much assuming Jobs is not really coming back.

    The fact is that Apple as entire markets that they drive, Jobs leaving will not affect the momentum of the company for many, many years to come - if ever. Rather that building "a cult of personality" Jobs built an approach to thinking about consumer electronics, and he's shared that with everyone at Apple - as much as anyone could share it.

    You know who would have more impact leaving/being ill than Jobs right now? Ives. Because even with Jobs gone Ives will present a consistency of products such that at first glance you will not even realize Jobs was not involved.

    Between momentum and a stable of people with considerable design and product skills, Apple will do just fine without Jobs.

    The reason why Apple Haters are so insistent that Jobs will be back, is that they will have no-one to attribute success to without Jobs there, will have to actually admit Apple might have built a few products people like to use because they are well designed. To an Apple Hater this is the end times.

  • Re:who cares (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Paradise Pete (33184) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @10:54PM (#35240430) Journal
    The iPhone revolutionized the phone business. The iPad revolutionized the tablet market. You may or may not like them as products, but that much is incontrovertibly true.
  • by SuperKendall (25149) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @11:58PM (#35240706)

    That's rubbish. I hate Apple but that's because I hate Jobs and his fascist tendencies.

    So in other words, I label you an Apple Hater, and you claim it's the guy that you say is the whole reason behind Apple's success is what you hate.

    In other words, you are an Apple Hater by your own definition. Not to mention Drama Queen for throwing around the word "fascist".

    I won't ever buy an Apple product because I will not go where I am not free to use the device as I like, develop with whatever tools I like and not have the capricious whim of Jobs decide how or what I can do.

    A common trait of the Apple Hater is the willful ignorance of the reality of Apple gear - I'm an iOS developer, none of what you say is true. They long ago removed the restrictions to not use things like mono or the flash compilers for iPhone development, for example. Jobs doesn't decide what I do with my devices, at all - what's sad is that you are promoting the misunderstanding that is the case.

  • by LordLucless (582312) on Friday February 18, 2011 @12:18AM (#35240806)

    Typical fanboy reaction - label anyone not slotting neatly into your worshipful little reality as a "hater", and deride it as a "meme".

    GP got it exactly right. Steve hasn't resigned his post, he's taken an indefinite leave of absence. If he had quit, and Apple had appointed a successor, Apple would have had a bump in their share price, and gone on their way. He didn't. When the shareholders asked for a succession plan (i.e. whose going to run the show if Steve leaves?) they got nothing.

    What Apple is doing now is *building* apprehension amongst their shareholders. Steve leaving might not make much of a difference to Apple's production qualities - but everyone's afraid it will because Apple's acting so cagey. The fear Apple's behaviour is generating is certainly going to effect it's stock price because stock, in the end, is really based on nothing more than fears and hopes.

  • by kaffiene (38781) on Friday February 18, 2011 @04:12AM (#35241546)

    I understand what the word means. I used it precisely because of it's meaning.

    I'm referring to the Job's role in maintaining the Apple cult. The view that there's one way to do it - Apple's way and no other. It is a totalitarian ideology. It permits no criticism and the cult members leap in to defend the cult against all opposing points of view.

    That's a fascist world view.

    As someone with a degree in Philosophy who has studied Politicial Science, I know perfectly well what the word 'fascist' means.

    I like the way you try to define opposing views as not worthy of comment rather than thinking about them. Good little cult member.

  • Re:Private Lives (Score:4, Insightful)

    by jimicus (737525) on Friday February 18, 2011 @05:29AM (#35241786)

    The way Facebook is designed (and, for that matter, its popularity) means you can't. Or at least, probably shouldn't.

    The main reason why is the photo sharing feature. On facebook or not, there's a good change that quite a few photos of you have been made public (yes, including that embarrassing one from last year when you had a bit too much to drink), tagged your name against it and it's there for all to see. There have been instances of people losing their jobs because of photos on facebook - well, you could (at least in theory) lose your job because of a photo of you someone else put up even though you've never used the damn site.

    About the only thing you can do to try and prevent this is to sign up, make sure any photos of you are tagged and associated with your login then either remove those tags yourself or set your privacy settings so photos including you aren't public. Until the next time Facebook change their privacy defaults - which they'll do all they like because the users aren't the customers.

    It's the electronic equivalent of graffiti on the bridge over the main road into town saying "kiwimate is a tosser!" except it comes with photographic evidence and it's much more likely to get distributed to anyone around the world than a bridge is.

  • by Dog-Cow (21281) on Friday February 18, 2011 @12:06PM (#35244208)

    I hope you die painfully. And soon.

    You really have no idea what Fascism is. And you're an ignorant, petty and jealous piece of shit.

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