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Apple Announces iLife '11, FaceTime Mac, Lion, Mac App Store, MacBook Air 827

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Apple once again streamed their latest keynote where they unveiled iLife '11 (more fullscreen and Facebook in iPhoto, Audio editing and automatic trailers in iMovie, Rhythm correction and lessons in Garage Band). FaceTime for the Mac will connect video chat to phones with a Beta starting today. Next we get a preview of OS X Lion which will have an App Store and new UI bits shipping this summer. The Mac App Store will launch on Snow Leopard in 90 days. The New MacBook Air is under 3lbs, 13.3" screen, Core 2 Duo, solid state only storage. There's also an 11.6" version starting at $999 with 64gb of storage shipping today.
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Apple Announces iLife '11, FaceTime Mac, Lion, Mac App Store, MacBook Air

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  • by Joe The Dragon (967727) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:09PM (#33963692)

    Will the app store have the same lock down?

    With no apps that can use plug ins?

    No games with user maps or mods?

    No sex apps?

    No fat app?

    $99 year fee even for free apps?

    fixed price points?

    will you be able to buy app and use it on all systems you own? will app dev be able to have app that you need to buy per system?

    can apple pull a app at any time?

    Will there be a max app size?

  • Ron Gilbert (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hansamurai (907719) <hansamurai@gmail.com> on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:12PM (#33963730) Homepage Journal

    As Ron Gilbert just put it [twitter.com]
    "For you Apple apologists claiming Apple will never lock down the Mac, step one is in place and you all let it happen."

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Microlith (54737)

      And people bitch at me when I say that Apple is driving towards exactly this. The only reason they don't go the couple steps further to defeat jailbreaks is because it keeps people fucking around on their systems instead of pushing for something truly open.

      Also, eventually Apple will shift to iOS. At that point, the only question of lock down is "how and to what degree" since the answer is inevitably "yes."

    • Re:Ron Gilbert (Score:5, Insightful)

      by mewsenews (251487) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:20PM (#33963856) Homepage

      Ubuntu also has an [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center]app store[/url], that doesn't mean anything is locked down

      • Re:Ron Gilbert (Score:4, Insightful)

        by elrous0 (869638) * on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @03:01PM (#33964544)
        Canonical doesn't already have locked down app stores on two of its biggest products, providing a telling precedent for where this is headed.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by makomk (752139)

        Ubuntu also has an [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center]app store[/url], that doesn't mean anything is locked down

        Ubuntu doesn't have a platform already out there that requires you to use their app store and doesn't allow you to install applications from outside of it, and they certainly haven't made any statements about how great this locked-down approach is for their users. Apple do, and they have. That's an important difference.

    • Re:Ron Gilbert (Score:4, Insightful)

      by slyborg (524607) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:31PM (#33964004)

      I don't see the problem here. As with IBM, and then Microsoft, once Apple gets too arrogant and thinks it has everything its own way, people will be ready for a change, and some new company or technology will yank the rug out from under them. Don't like what Apple is doing? Buy something else.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by elrous0 (869638) *
      It's really only a matter of time now. And, mark my words, Apple fanatics will still find a way to defend it when Apple moves to lock it down (probably within the next 1-5 years).
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by ceswiedler (165311) *

      Yes, Apple locks down their stuff. You want to know why people don't care too much? Because Apple locks stuff down the right way, for the right reasons. They're not too intrusive, they don't overreach, they make sure 95% of their users will never even notice the lock-in, and they make sure it provides benefit to the users as well as to themselves and their partners.

      Most people just want to share songs with a few close friends and family--and Apple's AAC protection allowed that. Most people just want to down

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by dogmatixpsych (786818)
      That's called a slippery slope fallacy. Now, just because it is a logical fallacy does not mean that it is wrong (it just means that it is a faulty way to make your case) but at this stage it is nothing but trolling.

      I don't get (like some other posters have stated) how adding more and different functionality to what is existent is a step towards locking down Macs. Could it happen? Yes, it could. All of the nuclear warheads in the U.S. could also detonate tomorrow, obliterating all of us Americans. That's
  • RTFA? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Ksevio (865461) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:16PM (#33963798) Homepage
    I tried to RTFA in this story, but I couldn't find it. Is it that hard to include a link to a source?
  • by UninformedCoward (1738488) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:18PM (#33963828)

    more fullscreen and Facebook in iPhoto, Audio editing and automatic trailers in iMovie, Rhythm correction and lessons in Garage Band

    Why can't all this functionality be available through one integrated program instead of being fragmented over many sources?! The end user will get confused!

  • by TellarHK (159748) <tellarhk AT hotmail DOT com> on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:30PM (#33963992) Homepage Journal

    I know that every other comment under the sun here is going to focus on the app store and DRM concerns, but I'm also somewhat concerned about the fact that CPU speeds on these new Macbook Airs seem to be... rather pathetic. C2D 1.4 and 1.86 Ghz processors? Is Xcode really that much better at leveraging the GPU, to where they can release something like this when announcing Lion and its new features that sound like they're going to brutalize processing power. With CPU speeds like these, it almost seems like they just didn't want to say the word 'Atom'.

    • by jjohnson (62583) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:36PM (#33964120) Homepage

      The existing Airs are sluggish compared to the rest of the Macbook line, and this model refresh isn't going after that because the people who buy Airs don't run CPU intensive apps like Xcode. The typical use case for the air is 1) college students with rich parents in humanities programs, 2) executives who travel a lot, and 3) gadget mavens who want to show off. In other words, browser, email, and maybe iLife. Coders typically jump straight to the 15" Pro models just for the bigger screen.

      It's always been a prestige model and, secondarily, a testbed for miniaturization of components. I'm kind of impressed at the all-Flash storage, actually.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by TheRaven64 (641858)

      The store is back now, so I went and had a look. The CPU on the Air can now go up to 2.13GHz. That's about the speed of my current MacBook Pro, and to be honest I rarely tax it - the big thing I'd want to upgrade in this machine is the RAM, which is limited to 3.25GB due to a crappy Intel northbridge.

      The most interesting thing is how cheap the SSDs are in the Air. In the other MacBooks, upgrading to a 256GB SSD is £600, but you can get an Air with one for £1350. A 13" MacBook Air with a 2

      • by LDAPMAN (930041) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @03:02PM (#33964572)
        They are not using a conventional SSD. This is flash, soldered right on the main board. Since Apple is the largest user of Flash memory in the world they are able to do it cheaply.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by ColdWetDog (752185)
      Battery Life. Battery Life. Battery Life. Until the physics folks get off their stringy little butts and give us credit card sized fusion devices, we're stuck with shitty little batteries.

      Not to mention the fact that Core duo 1.4's still have more computing power than I've used in the vast majority of machines I've owned. Now, get off my astroturf.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by seebs (15766)

      If I had spare money, I'd be pretty tempted by those machines -- consider that my current netbook, that I take everywhere, is something like a 1.2GHz "Celeron". It's competing with Atom, not with a desktop i7.

    • by nine-times (778537) <nine.times@gmail.com> on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @03:42PM (#33965180) Homepage

      C2D 1.4 and 1.86 Ghz processors?

      You have a tiny computer without as much battery, so it's a sensible move to keep the clock speed down. I'm running a 2 GHz C2D computer right now, and the CPU is never pegged. The hard drive is usually what slows it down. This 1.86 GHz Macbook Air will probably be faster.

      Clock speed is not an absolute measure of computer speed, and for what most people do on their computers these days (email/web browsing), any modern computer is enormous overkill.

      ... when announcing Lion and its new features that sound like they're going to brutalize processing power.

      The new features don't sound that much more intensive than what exists today in OSX, and Apple has been getting better at improving efficiency and using the GPU, so you might even see performance gains.

      With CPU speeds like these, it almost seems like they just didn't want to say the word 'Atom'.

      Or maybe they didn't use the word "Atom" because it's not an Atom processor, and maybe they didn't use an Atom processor because a low-voltage C2D was a better design choice for their needs.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by tknd (979052)

      With CPU speeds like these, it almost seems like they just didn't want to say the word 'Atom'.

      The fastest available Intel Atom is the D525 [intel.com] which is dual core. It gets 709 on PassMark [cpubenchmark.net].

      An Intel Core 2 Duo U9400 1.4Ghz [intel.com], on the same benchmark, gets 963 [cpubenchmark.net].

      For reference, an Intel Core i3 330UM @ 1.20GHz scores 1196 and an Intel Core2 Duo U9600 @ 1.60GHz scores 1129.

      CPU speeds on these new Macbook Airs seem to be... rather pathetic

      That's like asking for a big rig with a trailer to pull 1G on a skidpad or a Tesla Roadster to tow a big rig trailer.

      Is the Air underpowered? Of course. But you find me an 11" form factor laptop that doesn't look like a giant brick and has

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