Will Steve Ballmer Speak At WWDC Keynote? 280
truthsearch writes "An analyst reports that not only will CEO Steve Jobs return to Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference stage — he missed last year for medical reasons — but he will be joined there by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdrey said that Microsoft has been given seven minutes during Jobs' keynote to talk about Visual Studio 2010. Chowdrey said that a new version of the development tools software will support native applications for the iPhone, iPad, and Mac OS." Update: 05/27 19:17 GMT by T : As reader theappwhisperer points out, Microsoft has responded to this rumor via the company's Twitter feed with an unequivocal No.
DoJ dodging (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems like they're trying to dodge the DoJ by adding "competition."
Regardless this is pretty nice, it means I can developed for my iPad/Phone/Pod on my core i7 desktop rather then my 4 year old iMac.
Rubbish (Score:5, Insightful)
It won't be MSVC. It'll be the new Office for Mac introduction.
Re:Bound to be a big win (Score:5, Insightful)
having used apple's developer tools after spending years using microsoft's, let me assure you that apple's ease of use advantage ends when you open up xcode. sure you get used to gui design in interface builder, but vs is still orders of magnitude easier. therefore, the only developers who would rather stick needles in their eyes than use microsoft tools are those who have never used microsoft tools to begin with.
this, of course, makes no commentary on the quality of code that ultimately results from the use of the respective tools, just the ease of use of the tools themselves.
Re:Rubbish (Score:2, Insightful)
XCode for Windoze? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I can only imagine what Ballmer will say. (Score:3, Insightful)
Well Yahoo, AOL, and Pets.com also had high market valuations at one point too.
Look how that turned out.
All it says is that Apple owns all of its own manufacturing and equipment and makes a LOT of expensive hardware. MS sells software, mostly.
This is the dumbest rumor I've heard in years (Score:4, Insightful)
I didn't find Xcode in any way deficient (Score:5, Insightful)
And I had been using Microsoft tools for 15 years before looking at them. Sure, it's jarring at first, but you get used to it. Apple's APIs on the other hand, completely blow Microsoft Win32 out of the water. It's not even close.
Re:Google (Score:1, Insightful)
Think more along the lines or the German / Russia alliance before the war proper began. I can't imagine it will be long before the old enemys stab each other in the back.
People actually like Visual Studio? (Score:4, Insightful)
One of the most surprising aspects coming out of this rumor (which is complete and utter BS BTW, I wish I could get a job where I could just spout crazy BS all day, as opposed to just doing it for fun on slashdot :) is learning that people actually *like* Visual Studio? Who knew? I mean XCode has its problems, but I can't wait to get home after a day of working with VS and open up XCode and have some fun do iPhone coding.
Re:I didn't find Xcode in any way deficient (Score:4, Insightful)
And I had been using Microsoft tools for 15 years before looking at them. Sure, it's jarring at first, but you get used to it.
definitely. and it doesn't take a terribly long time for it either. i was looking at it from the perspective that apple has traditionally concentrated on ease of use in its entire environment. having to manually set up outlets and actions in the code so that they can be referenced by ib seems counterintuitive to that history. with vs on the other hand, it "just happens". i.e., double click on a button in the ui view and you get its onclick event handler. if it doesn't exist, it gets created.
Apple's APIs on the other hand, completely blow Microsoft Win32 out of the water. It's not even close.
you ain't kidding on that. even compared to mfc, apple wins. how microsoft managed to promote mfc for years without registry and security attribute classes representing critical aspects of the underlying operating system is beyond me.
Tech-Ed != WWDC (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah sure, Steve Ballmer will very likely speak about VisualStudio 2010 on June the 7th. But this will be at Microsoft Tech-Ed, developper and IT professionnal conference.
How a miss-informed analyst can shake the web by spitting improbable rumours.
(I won't talk about the fact that VS10 is deeply oriented towards the introduction of .NET 4.0 and corresponding C# evolutions, that VS has currently no ObjC parser — and will never include GCC even if it is Apple reference compiler — and that VS GUI editors are built for WinForms and WPF/SilverLight, not Cocoa, so this just ends leveraging their syntax highlighting text editor)
Re:I didn't find Xcode in any way deficient (Score:3, Insightful)
Apple's APIs on the other hand, completely blow Microsoft Win32 out of the water.
That's hardly a fair comparison. The Win32 API is 15+ years old. It was built to support the previous 16-bit Win16 API. It spans the development of about 8 major operating systems.
Newer portions of the Windows API being introduced with Vista and Win7 are a lot better than most of the older stuff and the integration of .NET into Windows has pretty much given you a completely re-written object-oriented approach to the Win32 API (still lacking some of the more low-level stuff, but interop exists for the few cases you need those).
VS2010Pro $799, MacMini $599 (Score:2, Insightful)
Do i need to say more ?
Re:I didn't find Xcode in any way deficient (Score:3, Insightful)
Apple's Cocoa frameworks started out as NeXTstep in 1988 (22 years ago) and have changed only incrementally since. Microsoft should have been embarrassed to ship Win16 let alone Win32.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP [wikipedia.org]
Re:This is the dumbest rumor I've heard in years (Score:3, Insightful)