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Steve Jobs To Keynote WWDC iPhone Announcement 484

Stoobalou writes "Apple's worst-kept secret will be revealed on June 7. A press release from Apple HQ has made it almost certain that the company will announce the new iPhone 4G on June 7, in our opinion, at least. The missive from Cupertino simply states that Steve Jobs will kick off the Worldwide Developers Conference 2010 with a keynote address. The thing is, Apple's enigmatic frontman doesn't turn up to these geeky WWDC shindigs unless he has something to announce that will get the hyped-up gang of Apple fanboys and girls a-whoopin' and a-hollerin'."
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Steve Jobs To Keynote WWDC iPhone Announcement

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  • Steve Jobs @WWDC (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 24, 2010 @12:50PM (#32325086)

    Apple's enigmatic frontman doesn't turn up to these geeky WWDC shindigs unless he has something to announce which will get the hyped-up gang of Apple fanboys and girls a-whoopin' and a-hollerin'.

    Really? According to Wikipedia, Jobs has done the keynote every year since 1998, except for last year when he was out for health reasons. But hey, who cares about facts, let's just poke fun at those stupid fanbois!

  • Re:Great. :( (Score:5, Informative)

    by Pojut ( 1027544 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @01:12PM (#32325460) Homepage

    For a large majority of people, that device is the iPhone.

    A 3% global market share [appleinsider.com] is your idea of a "large majority"?

    Whatever you're smoking, it sounds like some powerful shit.

  • Re:Great. :( (Score:2, Informative)

    by Pojut ( 1027544 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @01:27PM (#32325694) Homepage

    Dude, that's of the ENTIRE cell phone market, globally. That's a shitload of phones.

    You're right, it is.

    Where's the Droid at on that list?

    Irrelevant. Stop trying to change the subject; lets focus on what you originally said.

    You claimed that the "majority" have chosen an iPhone. I gave you a link that shows Apple is sixth overall for worldwide cell-phone sales. Sixth place and 3% of total sales hardly constitutes a "majority".

    Or are you going to convince me that 3% is a majority?

  • by jo_ham ( 604554 ) <joham999 AT gmail DOT com> on Monday May 24, 2010 @01:32PM (#32325780)

    How is the parent a troll post?

    -1 Troll is not a synonym for "I disagree".

  • Re:Great. :( (Score:3, Informative)

    by dingen ( 958134 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @01:47PM (#32326018)

    I don't know if Apple's market share is so much smaller comparing to Dell, HP, Gateway, Acer or any other PC manufacturer out there. But the real secret is of course that Apple is all about the "premium price point". Almost all of the computers they sell are in the $1000+ category, while the rest of the market mainly focusses on the low end.

    Apple tries to gain a competitive advantage by offering better products, not cheaper ones like most other companies. You can agree or disagree on whether Apple is succesful at this, but it does lead to massive profits and revenues for Apple Inc. So calling this "failure" is a bit... strange, to say the least.

  • Re:Great. :( (Score:4, Informative)

    by dingen ( 958134 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @01:55PM (#32326158)

    Now see, I gave data to support my point (that others have higher sales). Do you have any data supporting that Apple has higher profits/revenues?

    Just look at the revenues and profits of the companies listed on Wikipedia:

    As you can see, every single company is making less money than Apple, except for HP. And I'll bet you that when you look up HP's annual financial reports, it will show they're not making that money in the PC-market.

  • Re:Great. :( (Score:3, Informative)

    by Enderandrew ( 866215 ) <enderandrew@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Monday May 24, 2010 @02:17PM (#32326496) Homepage Journal

    McDonalds was not always the cheapest.

    In fact, Burger King centered their marketing for the longest time on the fact that they basically matched McDonalds price point, but offered more beef for the same money.

    McDonalds is one of the prime examples of clever marketing over quality. The other thing that was critical to their success was consistency. They use the same recipe and equipment everywhere. They are obsessive over making sure your coffee, burger, whatever is the same anywhere in the country. It feels safe and familiar. People prefer a safe, consistent experience over the possibility of a good or bad experience fairly often.

    Apple is likewise obsessed with controlling the entire experience and consistency. You'll find that it goes hand in hand with marketing, brand loyalty, etc.

    Budweiser is the same. they make a terrible beer but market it amazingly well, and establish a consistent brand experience. It is gotten to the point where Budweiser is so ubiquitous that most people don't even seem to know what real beer tastes like. They've been brainwashed to accept an inferior product.

  • by qortra ( 591818 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @02:52PM (#32327018)
    Some of what you say makes sense, but it is worthwhile to cut through some of the disinformation.

    They're selling a gazillion iPads

    I thought the number is closer to 1-2 million at this point. I've read expectations for about 7 mil over the course of 2010. Certainly decent number, even without the hyperbole or fictional units. Might as well get it right. Just to provide some perspective, there were 5.2 million Android OS devices sold in the U.S. during the first quarter of 2010.

    cell phone providers

    I'm confused, do you mean service providers, cell phone manufacturers, or OS authors? Apple is the last two, but definitely not the first. I'm going to assume that you mean the last one (an operating system author), the one that most people here care about.

    Apple is gaining grounds on the higher ranked cell phone providers

    Android OS phones beat iPhone OS sales last quarter in North America (source [pcworld.com]). As that article states, there are several reasons that this was inevitable, but most of those factors will still be in play in a year. More interesting than the fact that Android pulled out a small victory is the fact that it increased its market share so quickly. It didn't get a serious hardware contender until Fall 2009, and they already overtook iPhone OS in sales domestically.

    "the lay people" are clamoring for more as far as I can tell

    The above information should show that this isn't entirely true. There are a ton of "lay people" who have honestly become sick of Apple and their buffoonery. Merely as an example: my father has a 1st gen iPhone. He regularly has to use USB flash drives as apart of his job, and liked the idea of using his iPhone instead for USB file transfer. The iPhone, magically, does not have Mass Storage capability out of the box. One has to download an app to make it work, an app that wasn't around since day 1 of the iPhone. Even now, this probably isn't an app that an average "lay person" even knows to look for. My father knows that my mother's phone (an ancient blackberry) and my phone (a G1) both do this without a problem. Moreover, when he asks whether the brand new iPhones can do this simple task out of the box, the answer will still be a resounding "no". He has expressed to me that for this and several other reasons, he will not be wanting another iPhone to replace his current one when it dies. In conclusion, I agree that many of those annoying Apple issues that us FOSS people complain about will mean nothing to the average "lay person", but there are more issues than you think that are visible to your average smartphone user.

  • by curunir ( 98273 ) * on Monday May 24, 2010 @03:07PM (#32327156) Homepage Journal

    Android is accumulating an impressive list of features, but I still can't help feeling that it's coming at the phone platform in a wrong-headed fashion. I've been an iPhone user since the 3G first came out and have come to appreciate its simplicity. I go to Google I/O every year and each year I've tried to use the free phone(s) they give us as much as possible. And every time I come away feeling like Android would be a great OS on a larger form factor where the increased power it gives makes more sense, but not so great for a phone. Conversely, I have no interest in the iPad, but I'll probably get an Android tablet when it comes out.

    Comparing Android and the iPhone OS is somewhat like an apples-to-oranges comparison (no pun intended)...the iPhone OS isn't really an OS, it's an application launcher whereas Android feels much more like a real OS. And I've realized I don't want a full OS on my phone, though I'll continue to give Android a chance to change my mind. I don't want to manage running applications on my phone so that the battery doesn't die after a couple of hours. At a minimum, I need Android to give me the ability to easily quit an application when I leave it rather than just dumping it into the background where I'll need to launch a task manager application to finally get rid of it. At I/O, I used both my iPhone and the Droid they sent us prior to the conference. When I'd get home at night, my ~2 year old iPhone would still have plenty of battery power whereas the Droid never made it through a full day at the conference without needing to be recharged. For me, empowering the user can't come at the cost of sucking the power out of the device.

    On a purely feature-per-feature basis, Android does beat the iPhone. But it feels like those features have come at the cost of ignoring the little things that make using the phone pleasant. In addition to the clumsiness of task management, something as simple as the on-screen keyboard is an entirely frustrating experience when compared to the iPhone. Still, after using the EVO 4G they gave us, the hardware bar has been set and the new iPhone has to be pretty impressive to keep up, or I think we'll start to see Android take off based on the strength of the hardware alone.

    And I want that to happen as much as anyone. I'm a Slashdotter...I like open rather than closed. And I've developed professionally in both Java and Objective-C and found Java to be significantly more pleasant to develop with. And I hate AT&T with a passion and would love to be able to switch back to T-Mobile or Sprint. Android would give me all of these things and yet I still can't get past the actual experience of using the devices. I want to, but I just can't agree with Gizmodo on this one...Android won't have leapfrogged the iPhone until it's at least as enjoyable to use as a phone.

  • There is no 4G (Score:3, Informative)

    by catmistake ( 814204 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @03:22PM (#32327378) Journal

    A press release from Apple HQ has made it almost certain that the company will announce the new iPhone 4G on June 7th, in our opinion, at least.

    And... your opinion, it turns out, is incorrect. Apple will not release an iPhone 4G when there is no 4G network to speak of in the United States. And before you say you are for some reason using the capital 'G' to talk about internal Apple hardware generations, even though no one has ever used that nomenclature for Apple hardware before, all the while ignoring that everyone else is using the capital 'G' to only refer to cell technology generations, let me point out that the new iPhone is only the THIRD major revision of the iPhone. The confusion usually is in separating the original iPhone from the iPhone 3G. These two phones are the same hardware generation, indicated by Apple's internal nomenclature for them (iPhone1,1 & iPhone1,2, respectively), and also by they fact that they are nearly identical but for a different baseband radio and a gps chip. The original iPhone is, in fact, a 3G phone (EDGE is technically 3G, 2.5G is a made up marketing term). The iPhone 3GS is distinct enough in platform from the iPhone & iPhone 3G to be a generation bump, and it's indicated by Apple's internal identifier, iPhone2,1. The next iPhone, because we now know it has an A4 chip, is likewise distinctive enough from the iPhone3GS to be a generation bump. My bet is Apple will internally label it as iPhone3,1. But make no mistake, it will also be a 3G phone.

    So... can we call it the "iPhone HD" or even maybe the "iPhone 4?" Continually naming it something it can't possibly be can't be good for anyone.

  • Re:Great. :( (Score:3, Informative)

    by medcalf ( 68293 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @03:30PM (#32327456) Homepage

    So would you be willing to use OSX if it was just on non-Apple hardware? Would a Hackintosh suit your needs? Or is that glowing logo a necessity for you?

    If a Hackintosh provided the same experience, yes, it would work. However, you might note that a Hackintosh does not provide the same experience, because first you have to hack it together to work (hence the name) and then you have to do without support from Apple.

  • by sznupi ( 719324 ) on Monday May 24, 2010 @05:06PM (#32328832) Homepage

    Yeah, it's great to target only "premium" people living in "premium" places; while relying on Chinese sweatshops (Nokia owns all 15 of their fabs; only 2 in China; 7 in the EU) and not developing (but possibly freeriding on it...we'll see how this case will end) the fundamental underlying tech. Not striving to give most of hummanity the means for communication.

    "Crappy"? If anything, universally one of the more reliable, with great battery times and reception.

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