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iPad Jailbroken 624

Posted by kdawson
from the let-the-games-begin dept.
A day after the release of Apple's tablet computer, a hacker claims to have gained root access to the iPad. "A well-known hacker of the iPhone, who previously defeated Apple's restrictions on developers, has claimed in a video to have hacked the iPad. Just a day after release, the hacker, who goes by 'MuscleNerd' online, said that he has gained root access to the iPad..."
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  • Only Apple (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sopssa (1498795) * <sopssa@email.com> on Sunday April 04, 2010 @05:46PM (#31727654) Journal

    If you'd get a normal tablet or computer, you wouldn't need to jailbreak it. Apple is moving us towards closed computer environments. If Microsoft did this everyone would be angry about it, but now that it's Apple its all fine and classy.

    • Re:Only Apple (Score:5, Insightful)

      by rolfwind (528248) on Sunday April 04, 2010 @05:49PM (#31727678)

      Try to get outside apps running on a kindle.

      • Re:Only Apple (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 04, 2010 @05:57PM (#31727738)

        Try to get outside apps running on a kindle.

        Kindle Hacking: it's a lovely little linux box [boingboing.net]

        What you see there is a Kindle 2 with the Ubuntu 9.04 port to ARM running in a chrooted environment. On the screen you see xdaliclock in front of an xterm with the remains of a "top" command and a few mildly embarrassing typos.

        To open up the Kindle, I used the USB networking debug mode Amazon left hanging around when they first shipped the Kindle 2, a statically linked telnetd and a cross-compiler to bootstrap myself. From there, I built a daemon that can convert DRM-free PDFs and ePubs into something Amazon's reader on the Kindle can deal with.

        After that, I started to get curious about what else might be possible. It only took a few evenings to get a moderately usable Ubuntu environment running.

        Mostly, the Kindle is a lovely little Linux box. Getting X working took a bit of hacking, but everything else "just works" with very little configuration.

      • by NitroWolf (72977)

        Try to get outside apps running on a kindle.

        The Kindle is an e-book reader, not a tablet PC.

    • Re:Only Apple (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Concerned Onlooker (473481) on Sunday April 04, 2010 @05:59PM (#31727756) Homepage Journal

      "If Microsoft did this everyone would be angry about it, but now that it's Apple its all fine and classy."

      That just goes to show you that without some numbers to back it up life is so ambiguous. In MY impression there is a preponderance of Apple-hating commenters here on Slashdot. Presumable those same Apple haters are not also running Windows, which is just as closed as anything Apple puts out, but consistency of thougt--even among so-called geeks--is not a major human trait.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        "In MY impression there is a preponderance of Apple-hating commenters here on Slashdot."

        I think you'll find that about 20% of posters hate Apple, 20% would defend Apple if they were killing babies, and the rest don't care. Since you're an unabashed fan of Apple, I think you've adopted a bunker-like mentality that makes you feel that unless you're very complimentary to Apple that you hate them and you need to speak up to defend the honor of poor beleaguered Apple.

      • Re:Only Apple (Score:5, Insightful)

        by EdIII (1114411) * on Sunday April 04, 2010 @07:10PM (#31728344)

        That just goes to show you that without some numbers to back it up life is so ambiguous. In MY impression there is a preponderance of Apple-hating commenters here on Slashdot. Presumable those same Apple haters are not also running Windows, which is just as closed as anything Apple puts out, but consistency of thougt--even among so-called geeks--is not a major human trait.

        I have to strongly disagree here. You cannot compare a DRM restricted hardware platform like the iPhone and iPad (and PS3, XBOX, PSP, etc.) and an OPERATING SYSTEM.

        Microsoft may not be open source, or play well with standards, but you are still running an operating system (licensed right?) on hardware that you get to actually own. Of course you don't own the operating system. If you want a more open operating system choose Linux instead. Open source with hardware you really own feels really quite nice.

        If I purchased an iPhone or an iPad I would feel justifiably pissed off that I don't have complete root access from second one. Preventing me from doing that is completely retarded, unethical, and downright shitty. I can feel the arguments starting, so I will just say this: If you don't want me to have root access on the hardware... then RENT THE BASTARD TO ME. Don't SELL it.

        The same goes with any other piece of electronics. I feel perfectly justified and ethically correct to run custom firmware on the PSP, mod my XBOX whatever, and ultimately enjoy a completely 'cracked' and 'hacked' PS3.

        Which is, btw, why you can't ever hack a piece of hardware to run a different operating sytem that you own. You own it. You did not do anything but enjoy your PROPERTY.

        So consistency of thought? I think most of /. is remarkably consistent in this regard. 1) DRM sucks and is Defective by Design, and 2) You should be able to do anything you want with your property.

        This issue is pervasive in our culture right now. The powers that be are fighting as hard as they can to prevent our effective ownership of anything. They don't want us to resell our books, our music, our movies, our games. They don't want us to do what WE want with our hardware, but what THEY want with *their* hardware. They want laws to punish us severely when get around the draconian restrictions they put into place on us.

        Their ideal world is one in which we own nothing, lease everything, and pay by the minute to do so. That dog won't hunt will it? Yet they continue to try to make it happen. So let's not distract from the real argument here..... the fact the iPad which you purchased is not wholly owned by you when the expectations are that you really do.

      • by Chicken_Kickers (1062164) on Sunday April 04, 2010 @07:18PM (#31728400)
        For the love of God people! WTF is wrong with you guys? It is a freaking mass produced consumer product, not the elixir of youth or manna from heaven. It is also not the Dajjal (AntiChrist) either. Do you vehemently argue over the merits/evils of your washing machine or your sink's waste disposal unit? If people want to buy a severely crippled product, it is their own decision to make and money to spend. You do not lose anything if someone else buys it. Similarly, if people don't like a particular Apple/Microsoft/Boeing/Airbus/Sienar/Incom etc. product, then they are not committing heresy against the Holy name of the Immortal Omniscient God Emperor either. Get it into your heads people! There is no obligation on you to support or hate a freaking mass-production, soulless commercial entity.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by DrugCheese (266151)

          But you are wrong, when other people buy it I most certainly lose. In our society buying something is analogous to voting for it. The more people that vote for it the more pervasive it'll become in our society. If not enough people vote for it then it may make the manufacturer bring it back to the drawing board and wonder why.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by TehZorroness (1104427)

          You do not lose anything if someone else buys it.

          If this were true, we would have nothing to worry about, but in our so-called free market, the consumers vote with their dollar. Everyone who buys the iPad votes for locked down hardware, drm, and furthermore state that it's ok to sell a product with such rediculous restrictions that if we install OUR software on OUR hardware, the warentee is void. We will end up with no alternatives to this if everyone else but you and I says, "Yes! This is ok! I'll take 3."

          Then we'll be fucked.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Where can I get a normal tablet computer for the price of an ipad?

      • Re:Only Apple (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Idbar (1034346) on Sunday April 04, 2010 @06:54PM (#31728206)

        Where can I get a normal tablet computer for the price of an ipad?

        Well, I have no idea. You can get them cheaper though. [amazon.com]

        • Re:Only Apple (Score:4, Informative)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 05, 2010 @12:32AM (#31730552)

          HA-HA-HA-HA!!!

          First of all, that's not a tablet, that's a laptop with a swiveling screen ... Seems pretty brittle to me, and certainly looks like it was designed during the darkest days of Soviet Russia, but more importantly, did you even read the specs of that? Copy/pasting:

                  * 8.9-inch touchscreen-enhanced Eee PC
                  * Panel rotates 180-degrees into tablet mode for ultra mobility
                  * Energy-efficient Intel Atom Z520 processor
                  * Long-lasting battery life with 5 hours of interrupted use*
                  * Exclusive touch-optimized software suite
                  * 52GB Hybrid Storage (16GB SSD + 16GB SD Card + 20GB Eee online Storage**)
                  * Complete wirless connectivity with Bluetooth v2.1 and Wi-Fi 802.1 b/g/n
                  * Complimentary stylus for ultimate precision

          My face started to contract in a smirk when I got to the "5 hours of interrupted use*" (note the asterisk pointing to some caveats), but then I cracked in a loud laugh when I got to the "Hybrid Storage": 52 GB including 20 GB of ONLINE STORAGE??? Gimme a fscking break, at least Apple has the good taste to wrap their reality distortion with beautiful visuals! If this is the best cr*p you can come up with (and if it isn't, epic fail!) then the iPad is a better buy than I had thought!!

          (And "complimentary stylus for ultimate precision"? As in "our touch interface is really not that finger-friendly, and is multi-touch only in the sense that if you touch it once then you can touch it again and again, multiple times in succession!!"??? The most laughable counter-example I've seen in a while!)

    • Re:Only Apple (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 04, 2010 @06:07PM (#31727818)

      "Microsoft officials Monday confirmed at the company's MIX 10 developers event in Las Vegas that native applications will not be allowed on Windows Phone 7 devices. Only applications running in the Silverlight runtime environment or games in the XNA Game Studio runtime will be allowed."

      http://www.cio.de/news/cio_worldnews/2227933/ [www.cio.de] :o ?

    • If you'd get a normal tablet or computer, you wouldn't need to jailbreak it. Apple is moving us towards closed computer environments. If Microsoft did this everyone would be angry about it, but now that it's Apple its all fine and classy.

      Most people do not want to tinker. Please get over it. The iPod, iPhone, iPad are wonderfully easy to use, and are not lacking for applications. I'm glad that MS and others are also working on similar devices, because we don't want Apple to become the mobile device monopoly like MS is in the OS arena, lest they stop innovating also. So please keep buying and supporting those non-Apple products if you prefer them. Just don't be upset if Apple happens to be the market leader.

    • If you'd get a normal tablet or computer, you wouldn't need to jailbreak it. Apple is moving us towards closed computer environments.

      Apple still sells laptops you know. And desktops. And the continue to improve both.

      The other platforms are just as open as ever, they are not moving to a closed model.

      Indeed, if Apple had done just what so many people on Slashdot demanded, and released the same OS X shipping on the laptops with an Apple app store then I could see something of a point, of a direction Apple w

  • Doesn't surprise me. (Score:3, Informative)

    by MrCrassic (994046) <deprecated&ema,il> on Sunday April 04, 2010 @05:53PM (#31727706) Journal

    MuscleNerd is a pretty active contributor on the iPhone dev team, and has assisted significantly in finding vulnerabilities to SIM-unlock and jailbreak the iPhone with. It was only a matter of time, anyway.

    • by notgm (1069012) on Sunday April 04, 2010 @06:13PM (#31727858)

      i would be even less surprised if some of the jailbreakers had insider information to help them unlock the apple devices. as well thought out as apple's info-release schedules are (sanctioned leaks on upcoming products?) it totally makes sense for them to have two versions of the ipad on the market:

      1, typical user experience, customer buys it and it does what it says it will

      2, enhanced user experience, customer buys it and hacks it to do something else

      in either case, a customer buys it, and in the relatively small second subset, the group who would normally curse the company out and hold off from buying the device because it's 'crippled' actually gives apple money.

      of course it was quickly broken, it's part of the dance.

  • Jailbroken or not, the iPad is still locked into Apple. There are much better alternatives to the iPad which will allow you freedom over your own device.
    • Jailbroken locked? (Score:3, Informative)

      by SuperKendall (25149)

      .Jailbroken or not, the iPad is still locked into Apple.

      If it were, what would be the point?

      In fact the whole point of Jailbreaking is to be able to ALSO run stuff Apple didn't approve, from Cydia or other sources.

      Or to do your own development without going through Apple (though a $99/year barrier is hardly off-putting).

      You can also continue to run Apple approved apps too, but it's hardly "locked" to be given a full range of options including commercial ones sold through Apple...

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by angelfly (746018)
        You're still bound by Apple's environment. As I said jailbreaking allows freedom but it's still limited. It's like having a laptop where you can't change your OS and in order install more applications you have to hack it.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by dissy (172727)

      Jailbroken or not, the iPad is still locked into Apple.

      Seeing as that is the exact and only reason jailbreaking exists, your statement translates into "Locked into apple or NOT locked into apple, the iPad is still locked into apple." which is both a contradiction and wrong.

      Explain how jail breaking remains locked to apple, else you are ejected from this conversation.

      There are much better alternatives to the iPad which will allow you freedom over your own device.

      I guess out of your list of examples, all ze

  • Honestly... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by nhytefall (1415959)
    why do we care?

    People who buy this device are buying into the environment created for the device by Apple. As such, someone gaining root access to the device that Apple will analyze and patch, and you *still* won't be able to use the app store for... seems like a waste.

    So, I ask again... why do we care?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 04, 2010 @06:26PM (#31727968)

    It's probably good for browsing porn. I hate always having to boot a full OS for just to browse porn. It looks super portable too, so I'd be able to browse porn from just about anywhere. It has a fairly big screen, which would be good for browsing porn. And good battery life so I could browse porn for long periods of time. The touch screen is nice, so I'd be able to touch the porn I'm browsing. It has good Internets connections, so I'd be able to browse lots of porn fast. I don't think it's good for much else. I think I'm sold.

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