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iPhone 4 Rumors Rumble 119

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the i'd-rather-a-tablet dept.
padraic_93 writes "Information has become available which reveals development is underway for the new iPhone 4, as well as suggestions of features and Apple's plans for the phone. A report on PinchMedia, which made repeated use of the term 'iPhone 4,' was cited on the website MacRumors, though the website admitted that such reports can often be forged. The report also made allusions to a 'Corporate Event' planned for June 28th — July 2nd 2010, which have been taken as referring to the next WWDC." A related rumor holds that Apple has ordered 40-45 million 5-megapixel cameras, which might hint at new functionality.
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iPhone 4 Rumors Rumble

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  • Who Cares? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by ChrisMP1 (1130781)

    Not to be rude, but really, who cares? Must we have a story every time Steve Jobs sneezes? Yeah, that's what technology companies do — they release new versions.

    • Re:Who Cares? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by magnusrex1280 (1075361) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @08:58AM (#30543498)
      Really? You're bitching that someone posted tech rumors and/or news to a tech website? I guess I'm not really surprised; Slashdotters always have to cry about something, even when all that's occurred is someone posting an article about the next iPhone, which is, believe it or not, a piece of technology. Next thing you know, people are going to start posting recipes to cooking websites!
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by gregarican (694358)

        Actually to be more correct it would be posting a rumor of a new recipe. Say, posting hushed rumblings of a new idea for Upside Down Flint Rubble Bubble Cake...

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          Upside Down Flint Rubble Bubble Cake

          1/2 cup sugar

          1/2 cup dark brown sugar

          1/4lb (8tbl) butter

          4 cups (18oz) unbleached all purpose flour

          1/2 cup milk

          2tbl Flint

          1.5 tsp baking powder

          2 eggs

          Preheat oven to 350.

          Cream butter and sugar. Stir in eggs. Add half of the flour, mix. Add half of the milk, mix. Add the other half of the flour, then the other half of the milk. Fold in the flint and pour into your favorite upside down cake pan. Blow bubbles into the mixture with a straw. Bake for 45 min or until a

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by mdwh2 (535323)

        The point being, we get front page news about mere rumour items for the Iphone (even when the news is trivial anyway - what's that you say? Apple might be planning an Iphone 4 after their 3rd Iphone? My, I was thinking they'd come out with the 5th version first - how shocking!), whilst actual full product releases from other phone companies, despite having much higher market share (e.g., Nokia at 40%; LG, Samsung, Motorola, and RIM are also ahead).

        the next iPhone, which is, believe it or not, a piece of te

        • by tyrione (134248)
          You want to jizz all over the screen about HTC or Droiiiiid just head on over to Gizmodo, a bastion of undulation.
    • It's obligatory... (Score:2, Informative)

      by denzacar (181829)

      Part of The Apple Product Cycle. [misterbg.org]

      Slashdot is one of those "Mac Internet forums" described therein. Or do you think that it is a coincidence that Slashdot's sections are:

      * Main
      * Apple
      * AskSlashdot
      * Book Reviews
      * Developers
      * Games
      * Hardware
      * IT
      * Idle
      * Index
      * Interviews
      * Linux
      * Mobile
      * Politics
      * Science
      * Technology
      * YRO

      Linux? HA!
      Linux is a topic here only to attract more M$ haters.
      When was the last time we had a story about Linus or RMS sneezing? See what I mean? Exactly!

      • by 0100010001010011 (652467) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @09:46AM (#30543790)

        Early 2000s, they're sprinkled here and there.
        Although 1998 was a bumper year, a ton of Linus stories.
        Linus has a kid [slashdot.org]
        Linus talking about grandpa [slashdot.org]
        Linus on Git [slashdot.org]
        Linus Sightings [slashdot.org]
        Linus moves to Moscow, Linus moves to Oregon, Linus on 2.4, Linus on 2.6, Linus a Fermilab, Linus shows up in * magazine, Linus suffers Ego-bump, * interviews Linus.

        Same with RMS. RMS turns 50, RMS interviewed by *, etc

        Slashdot is also user driven. If you don't write the fodder stories, they can't ever get approved. (I'm not saying which way it is either way).

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by mdwh2 (535323)

          So the answer to the question is: 10 years ago. That basically supports his point.

          Anyway, I could understand a bias towards Linux, because Slashdot was traditionally a place for supporting Linux and open source in general. Today though it's an Apple forum. Kind of ironic given that this was once a place to support open systems...

          • by tyrione (134248)

            So the answer to the question is: 10 years ago. That basically supports his point.

            Anyway, I could understand a bias towards Linux, because Slashdot was traditionally a place for supporting Linux and open source in general. Today though it's an Apple forum. Kind of ironic given that this was once a place to support open systems...

            The solution to the scenario is for companies to come out with some hot s*** technology running Linux that actually millions want and will change the way computing is done. No, Google and Android with Java hacking on top of a linux kernel is not hot s***.

      • by samkass (174571) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @09:53AM (#30543846) Homepage Journal

        When was the last time we had a story about Linus or RMS sneezing?

        You've got to be joking. We heard how RMS thinks MySQL's mixed closed/open source is better than a pure GPL license. We got an article about how Linus should win the Nobel Peace Prize. Just do some searches for Stallman or Linus on Slashdot and you'll get the same drivel you do for jobs.

        Personally, I think rumors about the latest and greatest tech gadgets are Slashdot's bread and butter, and the Apple haters are just infuriated the iPhone remains so popular.

        • by gad_zuki! (70830) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @01:26PM (#30545834)

          >?Apple haters are just infuriated the iPhone remains so popular.

          I own a macbook and an iphone and I'm sick of the rumormill. No shit, Apple is updating a successful product? This doesnt need to be on slashdot or anywhere but applerumors.com.

          What bugs me is that I dont hear about the new version of WinMo or even that much about Android here. Just iphone. Id love to see a well maintained mobile subsection of slashdot instead of this nonsense. But I suspect enough slashdot readers are more interested in flamewars and self-identifying with products to make these 'articles' popular. I guess I need to goto Ars to actually read about technology without the kiddie angle and poseurs.

        • by mdwh2 (535323)

          Apple haters are just infuriated the iPhone remains so popular.

          Except it isn't. And we're not haters - we're just one of the 95%+ of the market that use another brand of phone. They do exist, but you wouldn't know it if you only read Slashdot.

          Indeed, your mistaken belief of the Iphone's market share demonstrates the problem: you seriously believe that it's one of the most popular phones, because that's all you hear about on Slashdot.

          • Many other companies are mentioned on all the big sites. The crunchpad gets as much coverage as the long fabled Apple Tablet. Remember just before the Droid came out? Gizmodo, Engadget......they were all fizzing from the bunghole over it! "oh, that iPhone is shit, droid DOES baby!" yak yak yak. Now, the REAL Google phone, the Nexus One is suddenly the hot shit, and the Droid is overlooked as "slow" or "ugly" etc etc. By the same sites that were crazy about it, just a week ago! We get one story about
        • by Wovel (964431)

          And not a single article suggesting Jobs should win anything..

      • Yet people like you are the people who complain about every Linux point release (not saying it's you, just people like you)

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Bertie (87778)

        Why, it's almost like they're in alphabetical order or something.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by gyrogeerloose (849181)

        When was the last time we had a story about Linus or RMS sneezing? See what I mean?

        That's because Linus and RMS are both a little bit wack while Steve Jobs...oh, wait a minute...never mind...

    • by Enleth (947766) <enleth@enleth.com> on Thursday December 24, 2009 @09:16AM (#30543580) Homepage

      1. Click on the "Sections" header on the left.
      2. Click on the very first radio button in the list of topics that appears.
      3. Scroll down and click "Save".
      4. ???
      5. Profit!

      • I'm not sure what site you're using, but I don't have a "Sections" header on the left (yes I know about the expandable left bar). I think the steps you are referring to are for an older version of slashdot.

        The only way I can get to it is by going to Help & Account -> Classic Index -> Sections as the AC below mentioned.
    • Re:Who Cares? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by DaveGod (703167) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @09:53AM (#30543856)

      To be fair the iPhone is an extremely significant piece of technology, both as a consumer handset and driving forward technological change. True, the new phone probably won't include much in the way of technological breakthrough - or even true innovation, but it will set the standard of the entire mobile phone industry by putting the tech in the hands of the mass market.

      Anyway, if you're the kind of person who reads /. it's kind of expected that when a friend imparts that they intend to buy a 3GS, you should be able to respond "looking like a new one isn't being announced until June, then there's some lead time so yeah no point waiting around for the next one".

    • by netsharc (195805)

      Indeed, who cares, the fact that there's going to be a version 4 is as clear as that number 4 comes after number 3. Of course they're going to build in new features into the device and OS, do the idiots who go into frenzy when they hear about "iPhone 4" really think Apple said "we have enough money, we don't need to make any new products."?

  • 21 million (Score:5, Interesting)

    by tom17 (659054) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @08:49AM (#30543444) Homepage
    Maybe they are only making ~21 million phones like they did with the current generation (according to the article).

    What about the other 20 million cameras you ask? Well surely one facing the user as well as the rear camera, so that you can video call - functionality still lacking from the current lineup.

    Tom...
    • Re:21 million (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Sebilrazen (870600) <blahsebilrazen@blah.com> on Thursday December 24, 2009 @08:56AM (#30543488)

      Good points, however...

      It could also point to allowing the iPhone on another carrier in the US, if they opened it up to Verizon?

    • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I sure-as-hell don't want a 5 Megapixel HD closeup of your face during a videocall :-)

      • by owlnation (858981)

        I sure-as-hell don't want a 5 Megapixel HD closeup of your face during a videocall :-)

        Of the average /.er's face, admittedly no, no thanks... however, as always with new technology, just think of the porn possibilities!!!

    • I'm not sure Apple would bother with that functionality until it can do it reliably for most people. Is bandwidth and coverage good enough to support such video streams at the moment? I'm guessing it's also taxing on the hardware and battery.

      Would be nice, but I wouldn't expect to see it just yet.

      • Re: (Score:1, Flamebait)

        by CrackedButter (646746)
        That is a good enough reason, maybe they should also ship an iphone without call making capabilities because bandwidth and coverage isn't good enough for that either. Most are not on AT&T's network, why hold back features just because of one mobile provider's inability to keep up to on their network? I can't contest your points about hardware and battery unless the device was made bigger.
      • If they cut the main functionality of OrbLive's live tv streaming, which had been working great for many months but removed yesterday because of Apple, you can be sure they won't allow two way video calling. They haven't even allowed skype over 3G even though ATT says their ready. What about tethering, etc.
    • Talking about this - anyone know of a good current/next-gen phone with such a forward facing camera? I was looking for an open internet tablet/smartphone, which I planned to use solely with wifi (no plan with a carrier at all). Having a camera so I can videochat in google voice (or any other videoconferencing program) would be a definite plus but I haven't seen one in any android or maemo phone...

    • by tyrione (134248)

      Maybe they are only making ~21 million phones like they did with the current generation (according to the article). What about the other 20 million cameras you ask? Well surely one facing the user as well as the rear camera, so that you can video call - functionality still lacking from the current lineup. Tom...

      iPod Touch with 5MP camera, the Tablet and more.

  • Breaking News! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ircmaxell (1117387) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @08:49AM (#30543448) Homepage
    Breaking News! Company plans on updating a successful product line!

    Seriously, why is this news? We all know that a new revision will come down the road at some point. The only "new" information here (for me at least) is the ordering of the 5mp cameras...

    What I found more interesting than what's posted here, is what Engadget reported yesterday:

    The most interesting word, however, comes out of the Silicon Alley Insider, who is quoting a "plugged-in source in the mobile industry" who says that Apple is working with some select app makers on prepping high-res apps to demo on a "new, larger mobile device."

    http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/apple-planning-event-for-january-with-high-res-iphone-or-small/ [engadget.com]

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by jo42 (227475)

      Rumors of an iTablet/iPad/iSlate have been floating around for months. Nothing new there. Anyone with half a brain would have come to the conclusion that Apple won't be stuck with a 320x480 screen resolution forever either. I formally and publicly predict faster more capable hardware from Apple in the future. Now can I have my $1000 for making a forecast?

      • by CyberKnet (184349)

        13 internets to you, sir. Congratulations, enjoy your prize.

      • Agreed; yet in the last couple of months I've seen many articles saying android is far too successful for its own good, because it supports multiple CPU and screen types. There's not a single precedent for software which supports various resolutions and CPUs! And then they lavish yet more praise on the greatest genius in history, Steve Jobs, because he will clearly never allow better screens on the iPhone.

        Oh, and if android hadn't sold as well, these same people would be mocking it as a dismal failure.

        It'
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by jellomizer (103300)

      I have in inside scoop... After $ProductName version @VersionNumber there just may be an $ProductName version @VersionNumber+1 with stuff that isn't in $ProductName version @VersionNumber. As well the next generation of $ProductName will have even newer features and probably will run faster and do more then the old version.

    • by xRelisH (647464)
      but it generates page hits, thus ore ad revenue, thus more money for slashdot :)

      It's the same reason why you see so many Apple related posts on Engadget.
    • What I don't understand is why these high resolution apps can't be for the next generation iPhone...

      Compared to the Droid, the screen on the iPhone is lacking. Apple might be looking to compete with them.

  • I wouldn't get it... (Score:1, Informative)

    by thefirelane (586885)
    I'm not buying it, rumor has it that they'll be updating the iPhone sometime after version 4 is released... safer to wait.
  • by the incessant Apple rumor-mongering lately. I love Apple products but I don't need to hear about every little detail. Is it really a surprise to anyone that Apple is preparing to upgrade its hardware to something comparable to the Droid or the forthcoming Nexus One? Frankly I'd rather be surprised but here I am reading this article, right? Now I feel self-loathing setting in... Great!

    • Now that there's legit competition for the iPhone in the form of the Droid (and most likely the Nexus One as well) obviously Apple needs to improve their product offering. The amount of info in this rumor is about a sneeze worth.
  • Cameras .. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by OzPeter (195038) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @09:35AM (#30543706)
    What about the current generation of iPod touch which is missing the camera - and every man and his dog was expecting it to have one. Or even the tablet that is likely to be coming out next year. Apple does make devices other than the iPhone.
    • That's what I'm waiting for. I don't need a cell phone and I'm not willing to drop the kind of money they want for even the cheapest 3GS iPhone to get the functionality. But, if Apple were to put a camera in the Touch I'd buy one immediately, it is the only thing the device is missing.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by OzPeter (195038)
        I was in an Apple store the other day and played around with the video camera on the Nano. Then I went and looked at the iPod Touch and noticed that on the back of the Touch (in the same relative position as the lens on the back of the Nano) is a plastic insert the size and shape of the lens on the Nano. I think the rumors of Apple pulling the camera from the current generation Touch at the last moment are probably true. Hopefully the camera will appear soon. I also have no need for an iPhone, but I do
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          My understanding is that's where the wifi antenna lives so that it can get reception despite the rest of the back being metallic.

          • by Patik (584959)
            Yes, it is for the wifi antenna. Both earlier versions of the iPod Touch (before cameras were rumored) included the same plastic patch.
  • is having a version that can work on either GSM or CDMA based on an inter-changable carrier module.

    That would unlease the iPhone from AT&T and permit it to be used on a network that can support the load.

    I still get irritated that AT&T tries to counter Verizon with that stupid Post-card covered coverage map. Verizon doesn't say anything about AT&T's voice coverage ... they only remark on the piss poor 3G coverage (needed for data). AT&T is trying to compare Apples to Aston Martins.

  • Development (Score:4, Insightful)

    by whisper_jeff (680366) on Thursday December 24, 2009 @09:43AM (#30543772)

    ... development is underway for the new iPhone 4...

    I hate to break it to you but development for iPhone 4 was probably underway, oh, about a year or more ago. Heck, development for iPhone 5 features are probably underway right now as well. Apple is, among many things, a very forward-thinking company (like virtually all companies of their size and success) so they are developing many things that are years (plural) away from release.

    In other words, this is news how? Who here didn't already know that development was underway?

  • I was only commenting to a mate a few weeks ago that i was supprised at the lack of iphone 4 rumours but it seems its begun.. I'm not big on alot of the BS from Apple, but the annual rumour mill on the next iphone is always a load of fun. I only have a few requests, make it easier to get the freakin sim card out, make the touch screen extend past the screen so u can scroll etc off the screen without your fingers getting in the road and i'll be a happy chappy!
  • In other news, Microsoft planning successor to Xbox 360, Nintendo planning successor to Wii, Sony planning successor to PS3, Microsoft successor to Windows 7, bears shit in the woods, pope catholic, etc
  • by waa (159514)

    Will it be able to make phone calls?

  • Apple is going to release a new version of the iPhone in the summer? Wow, how surprising and unprecedented

  • I'm holding out for the iPhone 7....
  • Just look at the features available in other smart phones for the last 6 years... Since the big update for the 3GS phone was the addition of this thing called "cut and paste", I predict the next big change will be in the hardware realm, where Apple will invent some way of sticking a thing called a MicroSD memory card into the phone! Innovation at Apple will abound evermore!
    • by Wovel (964431)

      Apple tends not to rush features in for features sake. It is why iPhone users are infinitely more likely to actually use their web browsers. Apple also had to make sure it would work well in their SDK and it is available across all APPS. The iPhone was the first of its kind, there were no phones with a similar interface when it came out. The first phone like the iPhone that had cut and paste was that clunky blackberry touchscreen toy that came out and no one really liked.

      • The iPhone was the first of its kind, there were no phones with a similar interface when it came out. The first phone like the iPhone that had cut and paste was that clunky blackberry touchscreen toy that came out and no one really liked.

        I give you TouchFLO (May 2007) from HTC and Mobile Shell (Jan 2007) from SPB Software, both of which pre-dated the iPhone with a full graphical interface, movable icons, etc.

        And for cut-and-paste, Windows Mobile phones (with a touch screen) since, oh, about 2002 had cut and paste. Works great.

        And the app store? Verizon had one in 2006 where you can log on, download what you want, and go. Based on the Qualcomm BREW platform it supported multiple phones.

        Zoom in-and-out browsers? Opera Mini from Jan

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