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Comments: 136 +- Apple: iPhone 3.1 Spotted In Field Testing on Monday November 30, @11:03AM
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kai_hiwatari writes "Digitizor reports that the next generation of the iPhone was spotted in the analytics log of an iPhone app called iBart. The device, it seems, was identified as iPhone 3.1 in the log. When iPhone 2.1 was spotted, it was followed by iPhone 3G."
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News Flash (Score:5, Insightful)
Details at 11.
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Someone enlighten me: how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?
Re:News Flash (Score:4, Funny)
Someone enlighten me: how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?
Well, you see, the iPhone has a lockout system that prevents people from doing anything with the device apart from buying programs on the app store... This lockout system is guaranteed unsinkable, so it is entirely impossible that anyone could cause their iPhone to report false information... ...Well, there was a "pretend to be iPhone 3.1" app released, but it was rejected from the app store...
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how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?
Here's a better question: why would anyone bother to do that?
Re:News Flash (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:News Flash (Score:4, Interesting)
Dunno about you... I usually have my Konqueror's setting to something like No one here but us, squirrels - 3.0 VMS 19-bit. If a particular site breaks from that, I make an exception for them (and try to avoid them, for it annoys me, when sites have browser-specific rules/content.)
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Re:News Flash (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:News Flash (Score:5, Informative)
Also, they really need to fix this summary. it should be "iPhone3,1", not "iPhone 3.1". The first is the format for an Apple product identifier. The second is likely to be confused with an iPhone OS version number that is already shipping to the general public and has been for several months.
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iPhone 3.1...... hopefully it'll be better than Windows 3.1 was?! Or are we to avoid version number comparison?
Re:News Flash (Score:4, Funny)
You've just identified yourself as being in EST. Now, I'm one timezone closer to robbing your house.
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/30/0359216 [slashdot.org]
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Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone (Score:5, Funny)
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I can't wait for Mac OS XI: This one goes to eleven!
Ah, yes... the "Bubastis" release... Never go for the first released revision, though, it tends to have a way of falling apart on you. Wait for the dot-one version, "Nuku-Nuku". That one will be a lot more reliable.
Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone (Score:4, Funny)
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It'd be bigger news (Score:4, Insightful)
Speaking of cycles... (Score:4, Funny)
Apple's cycle is well known. [misterbg.org]
But could this mean that it should be amended?
For example, with a new, secondary, starting point such as: "An obscure software developer spots references to what could conceivably be a next version of Apple hardware in one of its logs".
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Apple's cycle is well known. [misterbg.org]
Yeah, but the truly exciting part is when their cycle doesn't come...
Figures... (Score:2)
With more and more providers getting the iPhone, it seems like Apple just isn't feeling exclusive enough. Time to make a new version.
LIKE ZOMFG!!!! (Score:5, Funny)
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Original link here... (Score:4, Informative)
...at MacRumors [macrumors.com]. Relevant quote:
References to "iPhone3,1" was first discovered in the iPhone firmware files back in August, but this seems to be the first time that it has been spotted "in the wild". Apple similarly began testing the iPhone 3GS (iPhone2,1) back in October of 2008 about 8 months ahead of its launch. At the time, the usage was similarly focused in the San Francisco Bay Area where Apple is located.
So, if history repeats itself, the actual product will be released sometime in April or May.
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Yay, mostly (Score:2)
iBart? (Score:2)
Mr. Hutz [wikipedia.org]? I think we might have another case for you! - Fox Networks
Dear Editors: (Score:5, Interesting)
That should be a comma in ("iPhone %d,%d",majorversionnumber,minorversionnumber), not a period.
Re:Dear Editors: (Score:5, Funny)
You mean /,
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Slight Error in Summary, Version Number Mismatch (Score:4, Informative)
The summary says, "The last time when iPhone 2.1 was spotted, it was followed by iPhone 3G."
But the version numbers actually are:
iPhone: 1,1
iPhone 3G: 1,2
iPhone 3GS: 2,1
The mistake in the summary isn't a big deal. But it does go into the big pile of little mistakes that we see all the time around here.
2,1 was 3GS not 3G (Score:3, Informative)
Former iPhones were labeled like this:
* Original iPhone = 1,1
* iPhone 3G = 1,2
* iPhone 3GS = 2,1
useragent? (Score:2)
Announcing that they are looking specially to an info so easily modified is a good recipe for unfounded hype.
Re:useragent? (Score:4, Informative)
This isn't a user agent string. This is a hardware model identifier. Apple hardware has an identifier in the ROM so that you can find out what hardware you're running on in software. Here are some examples of why you'd want to do that:
MacPro 1,1: First generation Mac Pro (only has 16-lane PCI-e)
MacBookPro 1,1: First generation MacBook Pro (Intel Core Duo, not Intel Core2 Duo with SSE4)
MacPro 3,1: Third generation Mac Pro (32-lane PCI-e, quad core Nehalem Xeons)
iPhone 2,1: Hardware compass, etc. etc.
Get it?
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Hmm... (Score:3, Funny)
*double checks URL he typed in*
Yeah it says http://slashdot.org/ [slashdot.org] ... thought maybe I'd typed macrumors
thanks for telling me (Score:2, Insightful)
that iBart is "spying" sorry "analytics" on its users by sending who-knows-what-else data
to a third party
if this behaviour was on Windows app it would be condemmed instantly
and users would demand they stop it [uneasysilence.com]
i wonder how many other of the iPhone apps spy on its "users"
Analytics? (Score:2)
It worries me a lot that random iPhone apps are allowed to phone home with this kind of data, especially after that story a while back where the user's phone number was being sent in order to spam call them.
There seems to be a lot of protection for Apple (against jailbreaking or doing anything they or the carrier does not authorise) and pretty much none for the user.
next version? (Score:4, Funny)
So when do we see an iPhone 3.11 for workgroups?
Re:who cares? (Score:4, Funny)
How can you not care? It's so shiny :)
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If this new version supports copy and paste finally
iPhone OS 3.1 supports copy-and-paste. Heck, iPhone OS 3.0 supports copy-and-paste. Presumably iPhone 3,1 will run iPhone OS 3.x or a future release, and will support copy-and-paste, just as every other damn iPhone on the planet running iPhone OS 3.x supports it, even my old iPhone 1,0 or whatever the first one was.
(I.e.: 1) "supports copy and paste" is a function of the OS rather than the device and 2) the OS has supported it since the 3.0 release. 3.x also supports MMS on 3G iPhones if the phone compa
Re:who cares? (Score:5, Funny)
I sure as fuck don't.
OOOh! Technology, apathy and profanity -- all rolled into one little golden nugget!
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who cares?
I sure as fuck don't.
Oh, boo hoo. It's Slashdot's fault you couldn't scroll past the story instead of spending 20 seconds plus CAPTCHA to say you don't care. I don't like FireFox, Windows 7, or Google, so I'm going to go into their threads and post that I don't care and get modded up for it.
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FFS - we do expect certain standards here. And if that's too much to ask, at least a little self-respect from Taco. Fanboism is one thing, but posting this on main page?
Slashdot is ad-driven. Bitching about a story is supporting the story. Ask where it's helpful to ask instead of asking where the opposite of what you want will happen. There are far too many stories about Google here for you to not understand how this works.
Re:who cares? (Score:4, Informative)
Um, start your own fucking site?
Slashdot has ALWAYS been about things of personal interest to the editors. We have a LEGO icon, FFS, why? Because one of the founders likes Lego stories. And I'm fine with that.
Don't like it, GTFO, instead of bitching about how you feel entitled to have your "standards" met.
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Yeah, but if you have to read literally daily stories about one of those products, no matter how trivial (in this case, a non-news item based on rumour, that even if it was true, tells us nothing other than the bleeding obvious that they are developing new products), you might get annoyed, or simply wonder why such disproportionate advertising was being given to them.
Yeah, I know, I was one of the people bitching about the constant Mozilla posts on Slashdot many moons ago. My bitching didn't work.
I can see it now: "New Opera user agent string spotting in field testing!" Is that news, do you think?
Get enough Opera enthusiasts actively perusing the site and, sorry to tell you this, but yes, front-page material. Slashdot runs on ad-views. That's why we also were presented with stories about installing Linux on a dead badger, fictional tales of Microsoft throwing Sony out of a trade show, and Ask Slashdot articles for people who don't know how to use Google. You're not
Re:interesting (Score:4, Interesting)
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It's a false limitation though. The software & hardware is completely capable, Apple just doesn't allow it for third party apps. (the first party apps like the Phone & iPod multitask just fine).
I agree though, there are certain apps which definitely need to be allowed to run in the background like Skype and Pandora.
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A little more ram might be nice. I notice if I have push alerts enabled on certain apps, or any task basically sitting in the background (an alarm or something) the phone gets a little sluggish, and this is on the "fast" 3GS.
I'd also like to see a higher-res OLED screen.
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install Backgrounder (You will have to jailbreak) - it's wonderful for fixing annoyances like incoming calls interrupting navigation.
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They could back key features they pulled a bait and switch on (tethering) and not only that they could open it up a bit, since power users jailbreak them anyhow, and preventing hacking is nearly impossible. Someone somewhere will crack it when they have unfettered physical access. Somehow I don't think they're going to take the steps required t
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The 3GS had an oleophobic screen you didn't have to clean quite as often. I however seriously doubt they're going to finish development on, test, announce and ship a new iPhone before Christmas.