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Comments: 128 +- Apple: Google CEO Schmidt Leaves Apple Board on Monday August 03 2009, @09:17AM
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Jerod Venema writes "Today, Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt resigned from Apple's board of directors, citing conflicts of interest. Apple has released a statement that the company and Schmidt reached a decision to split ties as Google enters new markets that directly compete with Apple's iPhone and Mac operating systems. Schmidt had recused himself of portions of Apple's board meetings when conflicts of interest or anything Google-related arose. But Steve Jobs said Schmidt would have to leave much larger portions of the meetings after Google announced last month that it would enter the operating system sphere."
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Google Voice Rejected (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Google Voice Rejected (Score:5, Insightful)
No. It has more to do with a pending antitrust lawsuit by the DOJ.
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When Google "took over" search they didn't have massively deep financial pockets or huge revenue. The other search providers (including Microsoft, of all people) very much DID have those things.
All it requires to take over search is a better search algorithm. People can switch search providers trivially. Microsoft is using their OS and browser monopoly to try to force everyone onto their search provider every time they get a new PC or download a new browser version. Every internet providers set your hom
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Conflicts of interest made it inevitable that Schmidt would leave, but considering the timing, I wouldn't be surprised if GV being rejected was the impetus.
Re:Google Voice Rejected (Score:5, Informative)
As Google wants to eat more and more of Apple's lunch (and vice versa) having the same person on both Boards is almost guaranteed to be an automatic conflict. The timing of this is about right, since Google is getting into new lines of business that compete with almost everything Apple wants to do now.
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Re:Google Voice Rejected (Score:5, Funny)
No, and don't call me Shirley.
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Yes, you're being a little paranoid (Score:3, Informative)
Even more chatter prior to that due to conflict of interest on various topics dating back to Feb of this year
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/03/justice_department_investigating_hiring_practices_of_apple_others.html [appleinsider.com]
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/05/04/ftc_investigating_antitrust_ties_between_apple_google.html [appleinsider.com]
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/02/10/multi_touch_omitted_from [appleinsider.com]
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Apple apparently signed that contract with AT&T, so trashing them seems to be in order.
only mp3 players left (Score:5, Informative)
Well if you look
Safari => chrome
Mac os => google os
iphone => android
xserve =>google server farms
probably the only thing he didn't have to recuse himself from would be mp3 players....
Re:only mp3 players left (Score:5, Funny)
turtle necks => t-shirts
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Re:only mp3 players left (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:only mp3 players left (Score:4, Funny)
free spirits => free beer => free speech?
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free spirits => free beer => free love.
=> free chlamydia
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Re:only mp3 players left (Score:5, Funny)
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Funny thing is, one of the reasons I want an Android phone (besides the obvious openness) is that I can load the Last.FM player and listen to music... without requiring a separate device.
Re:only mp3 players left (Score:4, Interesting)
Using hosted Google services is an alternative to running similar applications on a local server. For example, there's no need to have a local email/calendaring server if you use Gmail and Google Calendar. In this example, it's really OS X Server that could be conflicting with Google's services.
But the more relevant conflict is between Apple's MobileMe and Google's collection of (free) web apps.
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Re:only mp3 players left (Score:5, Insightful)
I of course could be wrong, but I don't think Apple will sell anything cheaper than the Mini. The margins are simply too low for them to be interested in the netbook market, even if that market continues to grow. I think Apple has demonstrated consistently in the last decade that they value margins over market share.
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Unless you're into PC gaming, then a netbook surely covers everything that you need to do on a "main computer". In fact I've been using one even for most of my work for the last few months (while connected to an external monitor), and it is the only computer I use now when I'm at home.
I've got my MBP for when I need to do Windows development at work, but I'm happy to just use my netbook 95% of the time. The only difference in use between my MBP and the netbook is that I don't get all the fancy Comppiz effec
Re:only mp3 players left (Score:4, Informative)
How can you compare xserver(a sold product) to googles server farms that are completely in house
It isn't too hard. One just needs to realize that googles server farms are not completely in house and are also a sold product.
http://www.google.com/enterprise/search/gsa.html [google.com]
The Google Search Appliance (GSA) provides fast, relevant search for your website or intranet. An on-premise, easy-to-deploy solution, the GSA provides your organization with high relevancy right out of the box, can be customized to meet your specific needs, and scales easily as your content grows.
Not exactly as sexy compared to an xserve, but it is a sold product none the less.
Google Appliance Pict [wikimedia.org]
Xserve Pict [wikimedia.org]
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Re:only mp3 players left (Score:5, Informative)
Since I don't rent music, iTunes adds no value.
iTunes has never "rented" music in the resurrected Napster sense, and even in the "I call DRM renting" conniving sense virtually every piece of music sold by iTunes no no longer carries any DRM, so no matter which way you try to spin it these days your statement is simple FUD.
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Re:only mp3 players left (Score:4, Informative)
FYI, the two big music stores, iTunes and Amazon, don't use DRM of any kind anymore for their music.
Video, on the other hand...
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mis-read title (Score:3, Funny)
I thought he was just being dull at meetings...
Given that he was leaving Apple bored
next up, Apple switches to VirtualEarth for maps (Score:2)
coming in iPhone OS 4
Apple is already in bed with Microsoft and ActiveSync for iphone and Snow Leopard email connection to MS Exchange. Why not license mapping software as well?
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By that reason, Google should switch to VirtualEarth for maps. Google is already in bed with Microsoft and ActiveSync for Google Apps. Why not license mapping software as well?
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apple doesn't have it's own mapping software for one. google needs a reason to keep it's eleventy billion servers running and doing something
it's about time (Score:2)
nothing more to say
Arthur Levinson? (Score:5, Informative)
Genentech Inc. Chairman Arthur Levinson also serves as a director on both boards. The Feds are investigating that as well. What about him? The news story keep mentioning that Schmidt would recuse himself from discussions related to Google, what about Levinson? Did he recuse himself from both Google and Apple meetings when the other was being discussed?
Just curious.
Re:Arthur Levinson? (Score:4, Informative)
The FTC/DOJ would be far more interested in Schmidt since he's not just on both boards, but he's an employee for one of the companies. The primary issue they're seeking to prevent is collusion, which is would usually be accomplished by company employees sitting on each others' boards. A common 3rd party board member on two similar companies is also an issue, but it's not nearly as pressing of an issue since they aren't an employee.
Or to put this another way, they're handling one thing at a time.
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Finally (Score:5, Funny)
I've always said that fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. It's about time Apple realized that.
-Anonymous CEO
Re:Finally (Score:5, Funny)
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Ohh, but which Steve?
May be good news for Android (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm happy for these news because rumours have it that Google didn't implement some features such as multitouch in Android at Apple's request.
Now that they aren't buddy-buddy anymore, maybe Google will say fuck it and implement those features anyway (much as Palm did with the Pré).
Looking forward to that multitouch, and hopefully for those spring animations when a list reaches the end (in Android there isn't any visual feedback when you reach the end of a list except for the mini scrollbar on the right).
Well, you know what they say... (Score:4, Funny)
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don't forget the pr0n!
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don't forget the pr0n!
I don't think he had to recuse himself from those parts of the board meetings.
Re:Slooooow news day, huh? (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, the internal politics of two of the biggest companies in personal computing in the wake of the Google Voice debacle are of absolutely no interest to anyone. What we need is wiring diagrams, dammit.
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yeah, Idle's not had a new story in 4 days
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Re:First thing on my mind (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Or perhaps? (Score:5, Interesting)
They saw increasing revenue and profit in every single division of the company. Compare this to Microsoft, who last quarter [nytimes.com] saw:
Microsoft saw billion dollar reductions in revenue [betanews.com] in both the windows (Client) and office (Business) divisions, and it's xbox (entertainment) and search (on-line) divisions were actually in the red and are losing the company money.
Apple is not a "ship going down", this statement is demonstrably false, people are even calling it recession proof. You could say that about Microsoft however and not be contradicted by facts.
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"Don't be Evil"
I wish people would stop propagating such silly misinformation. It read more like "Don't Panic" and it was never a motto, just a note poorly scribbled on a towel that was used as a replacement air filter for the first Google Server [com.com].
Re:Sorry Eric (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.google.com/corporate/tenthings.html [google.com]
Read #6.
It's more than a towel, it's their ideals.
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Re:Why? (Score:5, Funny)
The Board tells Jobs the CEO what to do. Jobs, Chairman of the Board and major stockholder, tells the Board what to do.
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Re:Why? (Score:5, Funny)
Jobs has altered the corporate charter. The Board should pray he does not alter it further.
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Android is the game changer, and both Google and Apple know it.
Yes, 18 new devices; 18 ways for them to suck differently. You don't really get why Apple products do well, do you? You're one of those people who think it's the aesthetics, right?